• Question by: Geoff Pope
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

It is equivalent to about Euros 150 I think, yes. What are you doing to increase the penalty fare so it is a real deterrent?

• Question by: Roger Evans
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

That is good, because I was promised that by David Brown last week and it still has not arrived, so it will be a timely reminder. I would imagine you base it on an average fare?

• Question by: Geoff Pope
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

Good. One of the problems on articulated buses is that at least 40% of passengers have some kind of ticket which does not need to use the Oyster reader. Would it not be better to move to a system where everyone has to wave their pass or ticket at a reader?

• Question by: Geoff Pope
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

So what do you now say is the total revenue loss on the whole bus service per year?

• Question by: Geoff Pope
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

There is also a bit of a problem with your mathematics here, because when you responded to my question earlier this year about the revenue loss, you said that there was £8 million on the articulated buses and £22 million on double decker buses. David Brown, the Managing Director, did confirm that £30 million was the loss last year for total bus service. Do we not seem to have forgotten the single decker buses?

• Question by: Geoff Pope
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

OK. It would be useful to actually know what the figure is - rather like the Olympics. Otherwise we cannot check to see if it is improving.

• Question by: Roger Evans
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

So we may have them in future?

• Question by: Roger Evans
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

Just a moment, Chairman, please, we will move on to the bendy buses. How many police officers and ticket inspectors does it take to carry out an exercise on a bendy bus?

• Question by: Geoff Pope
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

They do not seem to be having much impact because we are told that nearly 10% of all revenue is lost on these bendy buses.

• Question by: Angie Bray
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

You are blaming us for your policies. You are blaming us for our scrutiny.