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Free Travel for Under 16s and 18s (6) (Supplementary) [18]

  • Question by: Geoff Pope
  • Meeting date: 21 March 2007
Can you say, in view of the high cost and the difficulties, that this scheme will not be extended any further?

Free Travel for Under 16s and 18s (6) (Supplementary) [17]

  • Question by: Richard Barnes
  • Meeting date: 21 March 2007
The question is, Mr Mayor, what is the true cost to Londoners? How much is being foregone by TfL? On your figures, multiplying one by the other, it is, as pointed out, £132 million. Now you say it is between £60 million and £70 million. It cannot be both, Mr Mayor. It has to be one or the other and, if you are running a large budget as Chair of TfL, for God's sake get your sums right.

Free Travel for Under 16s and 18s (6) (Supplementary) [16]

  • Question by: Angie Bray
  • Meeting date: 21 March 2007
They get spat at.

Free Travel for Under 16s and 18s (6) (Supplementary) [15]

  • Question by: Bob Neill
  • Meeting date: 21 March 2007
I am sure it was. Your capacity for misremembering history knows no bounds! Perhaps you will do as my constituents suggest and spend a bit of time on some of the buses in South East London, on the 161 bus. Perhaps you would like to come with me late at night, and see what the drivers have to put up with?

Free Travel for Under 16s and 18s (6) (Supplementary) [14]

  • Question by: Geoff Pope
  • Meeting date: 21 March 2007
Will you be taking action to withdraw passes for unacceptable behaviour because, clearly, the scheme has not got off to such a good start?

Free Travel for Under 16s and 18s (6) (Supplementary) [13]

  • Question by: Roger Evans
  • Meeting date: 21 March 2007
Well you do not. If you multiply that £350 per person by the 385,000 young people you said would benefit, then the cost of the scheme actually comes out to £134 million, rather than the £60 million that you are claiming. We have just seen it with your Olympics questions. It depends on which side of the wall you stand. Your figures are different when you talk about the cost and about the benefit. Does that not damage your credibility?

Free Travel for Under 16s and 18s (6) (Supplementary) [12]

  • Question by: Bob Neill
  • Meeting date: 21 March 2007
Can I say I am sorry I was not here earlier, Mr Mayor. I was actually talking on the phone to some constituents from Bexley who are amazed that you found the time to visit the borough for, I think, the second time in three years. The Leader of the Council was delighted to be told that you were coming - to find out second hand, without the courtesy of an invitation from your office or TfL, or the courtesy being extended to the GLA Member or any of the Members of Parliament. So thank you for your little publicity...

Free Travel for Under 16s and 18s (6) (Supplementary) [11]

  • Question by: Roger Evans
  • Meeting date: 21 March 2007
£60 million. How does that square with your claim that each of the people travelling will save £350?

Free Travel for Under 16s and 18s (6) (Supplementary) [10]

  • Question by: Roger Evans
  • Meeting date: 21 March 2007
I can tell you the situation you describe in Bexley is very far from unique and is actually experienced in quite a lot of other places around London. It is disturbing that you do not have an extra cost for this, because on top of the lost money to Transport for London, which looks different depending on which side of the wall you are standing, there is also got to be a cost of this scheme for trying to enforce the travel scheme has there not?

Free Travel for Under 16s and 18s (6) (Supplementary) [9]

  • Question by: Geoff Pope
  • Meeting date: 21 March 2007
Would you accept that it was misleading to publish in the Londoner that the whole scheme was under threat from the Assembly when you know we have no powers to overthrow the scheme, and indeed you know the Liberal Democrats have, in principle, supported free travel for under 18s?
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