• Question by: Valerie Shawcross
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

Well, thank you very much for that very clear commitment. I have to say that the project is extremely popular and there have been two very good consultations in the area, which have raised expectations. The fact that there have been these glitches has caused concern, because nobody in the area wants to see the LDA walking away, because clearly it is a big and difficult project and the community groups in the area have put in a lot of time and effort. Indeed, they are meeting the Mayor this morning about the project. As I said, there have been...

• Question by: Valerie Shawcross
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

Yes, I think it has been consequent on the Licensing Act that has given an opportunity to reduce the administration, so that is very helpful. The other small glitch we had is that there was a planning application, you might not have a note on this, from Capel Manor. Although that horticultural facility was supported during the master planning process by Bromley, there has been the small local planning application which has subsequently gone in, and has been turned down by Bromley. I certainly want to see that resolved. Are you committed to getting that resolved and keeping Capel Manor...

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

But you are not thinking in terms of that process. When does it become a fait accompli that you do not have options? What I need to know is where those decisions are being taken and who by? I think that is what we need to know and others do. I suspect my colleagues in local government might like to know that, even though they are involved in those decisions or part of the discussion, I think.

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

Not you?

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

Let me stop you there. Can I just stop you there? Hold on. Here again, my understanding is they are delivering the physical side, site buildings and you are now telling me that they have also got the responsibility for a legacy overhang? Their priority is to deliver an on-time, on-budget, project. Is there not something wrong about who is holding that legacy brief?

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

OK. Right. Just bear with me. There have been many master plans and things change within that. Are you, at the LDA, the holder of the legacy at different levels, the long-term legacy, and the ODA is the short-term legacy, but obviously has got an eye on the legacy in the future?

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

Can I thank you for the way you have answered that question? You will be aware we had two people before us yesterday (Lord Coe, Chair of LOCOG and Paul Deighton, Chief Executive of LOCOG) and it could really be summed up when discussing the legacy debate as `not me guv, it is someone else' and then they spoke inordinately long about legacy and what they were doing and who was driving it. The question for me is, who is the ringmaster? You are quite clear. You are quite clear from the bits that you have just said. Let me...

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

I am running out of time here on the Labour time. Who takes what decisions when, when does the talking stop and say this is the long-term legacy vision that we want and all the rest of it. Where is that? Give me some milestone that we can work towards.

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

Right. OK. I am going to give you an example then. The Olympics, in security terms, needs to take a number of decisions to secure a site for the safety of the Olympics in the events that go on. Where is the decision post-Olympics? We have not got a security issue, we have some iconic buildings which I hope are part of the legacy, but we would probably want to open up that site to people in a way of ongoing normalisation in security terms. How do we know who is doing the spec? Decisions are being taken now by...

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

And will that come with the other partners who have some stake, so we get one definitive view of where we are on legacy or are we going to have Bill and Ben back like we had yesterday, telling us that they are not responsible for it, `not me guv' and it is someone else's? I think we need to know.