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The Talk London team are working on a new and improved Talk London platform. Our goal is to make it easier to get involved on Talk London, better demonstrate the impact of the community, make City Hall more accessible and our policy design processes more transparent, and reward Talk London members for getting involved.

Some of the changes we’re making are:

  • pulling all the relevant engagement activities on one topic into one page called an “issues” page
  • new ways to participate in a discuss, including upvoting and liking other members comments
  • a new idea generation functionality, where Talk London members can add ideas to challenges City Hall is trying to solve

You can see a few screenshots of the new design for Talk London below: a new "issues page" on both dekstop and on mobile. Please note these are screenshots with temporary copy only, as we're still working towards the final version. The new Talk London will be fully acessible and automatically adapt to your screen size.

We’d love to hear what you think about the new layout and designs. Let us know in the discussion below.

The discussion ran from 10 August 2020 - 10 March 2021

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Avatar for - Koala

Oh and one more thing (while I'm at it)! Why not put the website prototype up on a live environment and let people use it on both mobile and desktop? You can use tools like Axure Wireframes, which is what UX designers use to test how users...

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Oh and one more thing (while I'm at it)! Why not put the website prototype up on a live environment and let people use it on both mobile and desktop? You can use tools like Axure Wireframes, which is what UX designers use to test how users flow through the exploration of the website. This will allow you to see how well it's being received before you go live. Putting images up on a website doesn't render well at all, and you risk getting a lot of people complaining about the quality - considering that what they're viewing is just an image. And it will let people feel more engaged with the entire experience.

Sorry this is what I do for a living! 

All the best,

Elimarr

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Avatar for - Monarch butterfly

This is a really good idea.

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This is a really good idea.

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Hey Lovely People, 

So I just completed the survey, which is great to have a say. I just wanted to reiterate, that with the 'Follow' button and 'Share' button. Why not have a link to the issue/topics Facebook group? More people are using...

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Hey Lovely People, 

So I just completed the survey, which is great to have a say. I just wanted to reiterate, that with the 'Follow' button and 'Share' button. Why not have a link to the issue/topics Facebook group? More people are using Facebook groups at local community level. It's slightly more engaging and it allows people to truly speak up, share ides, etc... Follow buttons are truly not engaging and people are less likely to use this out of fear of being bombarded with emails, which is actually very bad for the environment. In addition, people don't actually share content unless it's about them, so I would seriously consider changing this so that users can connect to a Facebook group. The data gained from using Facebook groups would be immense too. 

Hope this is helpful! 

All the best,

EliMarr

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Avatar for - Orangutan

It would be a mistake to assume that everybody uses social media - it could result in excluding people from the process.   

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It would be a mistake to assume that everybody uses social media - it could result in excluding people from the process.   

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@Theid 

I suppose the question is, where does this follow feed button leads users to? Does it mean that users will get email notifications, or will the news updates be captured in the users' profile? 

What's the point of it? Why would...

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@Theid 

I suppose the question is, where does this follow feed button leads users to? Does it mean that users will get email notifications, or will the news updates be captured in the users' profile? 

What's the point of it? Why would you want a follow button? Would you actually use it? 

I personally think that joining a group relating to specific issues would be more engaging than simply following a feed. Unless the point of this new website refresh is to lead people down the rabbit hole - path of refraining from following up with any further engagement or action? But I don't think that's the point, do you? 

Having a Facebook group would not only enable more engagement, but it's a really great way to auto-populate the timeline, requiring the same form of moderation from the content team.  

To conclude, I receive over 1k feeds a day (downsized from getting daily 10k). Every morning I sift through my inbox just deleting and unsubscribing to things I consciously joined. My new habit is to simply log-in to my FB account and go directly to the FB groups I've subscribed to. It gives me more control over what I sign up for, and it's a great way to get involved with my local community and do volunteer work. 

Social media isn't excluding people, it's simply more actionable than simply following something. If you want to get involved then drop an email, which I haven't actually seen on any of the designs proposed above. 

An email address on the website for how to get involved would be a good start. 

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Avatar for - Amur leopard

I think it's critical that the revamped site is as accessible as possible, including in terms of font size, contrast colours used for text / background (should be customisable), compatibility with voice-activated software packages and...

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I think it's critical that the revamped site is as accessible as possible, including in terms of font size, contrast colours used for text / background (should be customisable), compatibility with voice-activated software packages and screen readers, etc.

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Avatar for - Orangutan

I have been unable to take the survey because despite my best efforts I am continually informed that there is an error and I must go back.

What is going on?

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I have been unable to take the survey because despite my best efforts I am continually informed that there is an error and I must go back.

What is going on?

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Current circumstances meant I had to complete the latest survey on my iPhone. A bit of a nightmare!

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Current circumstances meant I had to complete the latest survey on my iPhone. A bit of a nightmare!

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Avatar for - Sumatran elephant

Until recently my laptop identified many of the surveys as coming from a dangerous web address, so I was unable to complete them.  Fortunately that now seems to have been rectified.  In future this should be tested before surveys are...

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Until recently my laptop identified many of the surveys as coming from a dangerous web address, so I was unable to complete them.  Fortunately that now seems to have been rectified.  In future this should be tested before surveys are distributed.

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Avatar for - Sumatran elephant

that happened to me to- but agree seems to be ok now

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that happened to me to- but agree seems to be ok now

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Please make sure that the new format is optimised for those viewing on mobile phones / tablets. 

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Please make sure that the new format is optimised for those viewing on mobile phones / tablets. 

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Hi everyone and thank you for your very helpful comments in this discussion.

A few of you have mentioned the font and are concerned about the size and accessibility. We wanted to let you know that accessibility is a big priority. The images in this discussion are screenshots of our first designs on a laptop or desktop computer, which is why the font and design look a bit smaller.

We’re taking your feedback on board and will ensure the font on the new Talk London is accessible and large enough for all different devices.

Looking at the screenshots above again, what do you think of the colours?"

Talk London

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In answer to your question, the extensive use of white background across the whole page makes it difficult to distinguish and identify the various sections within it.

In respect of someone's comment about not wanting Talk London to go down...

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In answer to your question, the extensive use of white background across the whole page makes it difficult to distinguish and identify the various sections within it.

In respect of someone's comment about not wanting Talk London to go down the Facebook/Nextdoor route, I totally agree. Other than accessibility issues, this would come a close second. This site needs to be a serious site that gives the opportunity for the public to comment and make suggstions to the Mayor of London and the London Assembly. It absolutely should not be a discussion forum where members of the public argue with eachother, like, dislike, upvote etc - please do not go down that route. There are plenty of other forums to do that and I just would not view Talk London as a serious option to contribute to London priorities if that is the way it turns out.

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Avatar for - Tiger

Thank you.

As a retired teacher who taught numerous dyslectic children and also employed two dyslectic staff in my department, font and colour are vital for clarity or reading and therefore understanding. Likewise, there are many autistic...

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Thank you.

As a retired teacher who taught numerous dyslectic children and also employed two dyslectic staff in my department, font and colour are vital for clarity or reading and therefore understanding. Likewise, there are many autistic people, of varying severity, who require similar clarity. Please see the following suggestions:

One common difficulty for people with dyslexia is distinguishing letterforms that are similar, such as b/d, p/q, and n/u. This is why Comic Sans is a super helpful dyslexia font choice. The irregularity of the font is what makes each letterform unique and easier to distinguish.

Lightly coloured paper, 12-14 point sans serif font, and bolding of text for highlighting are commonly believed to be best for dyslexics.

Glossy and bright white backgrounds, italics, ALL CAPS, and underlining have been found to impair reading for dyslexics.

Many people with autism find information easier to read if it is printed on a light-coloured background (cream, light yellow or green are good choices). It can also be helpful to change the font colour to dark blue or brown.

Regards

Paul Wallis

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A little too busy and would probably be unreadable on a mobile.  It would also help if the COVID information was in English! Otherwise, OK.

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A little too busy and would probably be unreadable on a mobile.  It would also help if the COVID information was in English! Otherwise, OK.

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I saw a word I've never seen before - what does upvoted mean?

 

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I saw a word I've never seen before - what does upvoted mean?

 

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Avatar for - Monarch butterfly

(in an online context) register approval of or agreement with (a post or poster) by means of a particular icon.

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(in an online context) register approval of or agreement with (a post or poster) by means of a particular icon.

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The font is illegible on a phone screen. I'd like far more ways for Londoners to meet up with the Mayor and elected members to discuss and steer policies, not just answer these very limited sets of questions. The likes/thumbs up idea won't...

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The font is illegible on a phone screen. I'd like far more ways for Londoners to meet up with the Mayor and elected members to discuss and steer policies, not just answer these very limited sets of questions. The likes/thumbs up idea won't give much sense of what might resonate with most people. There's no way of knowing how representative anyone is of the wider community. 

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Avatar for - Saola

Yes!  Font much too small.

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Yes!  Font much too small.

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My fear is that going down the Facebook/Nextdoor route of likes, thumbs up and smiley faces, you will attract the same trolls and issue fanatics as there. It would be nice to be able to participate and give views without being attacked by...

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My fear is that going down the Facebook/Nextdoor route of likes, thumbs up and smiley faces, you will attract the same trolls and issue fanatics as there. It would be nice to be able to participate and give views without being attacked by the cause warriors out there who stifle and dominate debate 

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Avatar for - Vaquita

Could not agree more! This would need almost full time moderation - would it really be worth this?

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Could not agree more! This would need almost full time moderation - would it really be worth this?

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Many of your readers, like me, must be in the, ahem, older age bracket. It would be generally advantageous if the website used a slightly larger typeface.

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Many of your readers, like me, must be in the, ahem, older age bracket. It would be generally advantageous if the website used a slightly larger typeface.

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Avatar for - American pika

I agree:  the font is too small for me even on my laptop.

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I agree:  the font is too small for me even on my laptop.

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Too much going on in these pages. The page should be designed to secure public engagement; it needs to be much more clear what Talk London is asking for engagement on, and an obvious button to enable that engagement.

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Too much going on in these pages. The page should be designed to secure public engagement; it needs to be much more clear what Talk London is asking for engagement on, and an obvious button to enable that engagement.

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Avatar for - Tiger

Agree totally. Whilst appreciating the laudable principle of trying to cover the myriad problems that London has, there is often a case of 'wood for the trees'.

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Agree totally. Whilst appreciating the laudable principle of trying to cover the myriad problems that London has, there is often a case of 'wood for the trees'.

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Yep, agree with this.

 

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Yep, agree with this.

 

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Agree, and the font and design are too small to be effective when using a smartphone screen. It's fine on a laptop.

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Agree, and the font and design are too small to be effective when using a smartphone screen. It's fine on a laptop.

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Avatar for - Leatherback sea turtle

I agree. 

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Avatar for - American pika

The font is too small for me even on my laptop.

 

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The font is too small for me even on my laptop.

 

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Avatar for - Gorilla

Agree - a little too much clicking needed when the email is specifically asking you to fill out a survey.

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Agree - a little too much clicking needed when the email is specifically asking you to fill out a survey.

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Still have to click through several links from the invitation email to get to the survey form - make it a single click

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Still have to click through several links from the invitation email to get to the survey form - make it a single click

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Yes, looks by far too "niche" and complicated.

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Yes, looks by far too "niche" and complicated.

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