Reducing violent crime
We'd like your views on the new Violence Reduction Unit and what Londoners can do to help prevent violence.
Together with the Met Police and specialists in health, youth services and local government, City Hall has announced plans to establish a new Violence Reduction Unit. It aims to tackle the causes of violent crime, such as poverty, mental ill-health and lack of opportunities. Alongside this, the Violent Crime Taskforce will continue its work to take knives and other weapons off the streets.
What do you think of the measures above? Do you think that it is important to bring together different services and involve communities when designing solutions to tackle violent crime? What can Londoners, families and communities do to help prevent violence?
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Community Member 6 years agoJust a few points folkes:
1) A friend of mine pointed out a crack house to police who said 'yeah, we're aware of it' 6 months later nothing done
2) I was walking down Sloane Square with a few friends 1 evening and got stopped twice by...
Show full commentJust a few points folkes:
1) A friend of mine pointed out a crack house to police who said 'yeah, we're aware of it' 6 months later nothing done
2) I was walking down Sloane Square with a few friends 1 evening and got stopped twice by plain clothes asking where I was going.
3) Would resources be better placed in areas with high crime frequencies? Bobbies on the beat please and not just in the well to do areas
4) Is the night tube paying for itself yet? More cyclists are needed as they look lonely traversing these expensive cycle lanes inconvieniencing everyone else. Perhaps money could be better spent elsewhere?
5) When I look at that guy who hid in the embassy (Assange) and the cost of policing him (£10M), I wonder how anyone could justify this amount. 1 officer in the front, 1 at the back with a change of shift. Someone should really look into this. How many officers on the beat would that have covered? When you see teams kicking down the doors of these criminals, does it really need 15-20 officers when they have been monitoring the address and know there is only 1 or 3 people at the address?
Show less of commentCareoline
Community Member 6 years agoThe measures above look great, as long as people are not made more afraid of crime; it would be good to help people feel more empowered to live fulfilled and safe lives..
Show full commentThe measures above look great, as long as people are not made more afraid of crime; it would be good to help people feel more empowered to live fulfilled and safe lives..
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Official Representative 6 years agoThanks everyone for your sharing your views. Some of you have asked where the budget to fund new policing initiatives is coming from.
Our colleagues at the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC) have shared this overview.
“Compared to the last budget of the previous Mayor’s term (2016/17 budget), in 2018/19 the Mayor has provided an additional £139.6 million of Mayoral resources (council tax and business rates) to support the police.
- £27.8m raised from council tax precept and business rates in 2017/18
- £49.3 raised from council tax precept in 2018/19
- £62.5m from raised from business rates in 2018/19
The new Violence Reduction Unit is to be funded with £500,000 in 2018-19, from the 2017-18 surplus on business rates City Hall has received.
From 2019/20, the Mayor will invest an additional £59m annually. This budget is raised predominantly from business rates to support an extra 1,000 police officer posts than would otherwise be affordable.”
Have you seen any changes in your local area? Do you know of any community initiatives that could help prevent violence?
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AGB1954
Community Member 6 years agoThe Mayor should launch an immediate inquiry into what has happened to all this extra money. Where I live (in Mr Khan's old constituency ) you rarely see a polce or CSO officer walking the streets.You hardly ever see a patrolcar. As usual...
Show full commentThe Mayor should launch an immediate inquiry into what has happened to all this extra money. Where I live (in Mr Khan's old constituency ) you rarely see a polce or CSO officer walking the streets.You hardly ever see a patrolcar. As usual the reaction to any criticism of the authorities is to deny the validity of ordinary people's experience and bandy about spurious expenditure figures. These usually need contextualising and analysis before they can be accepted. The London Assembly will only appease their critics when they do things that make the public feel safer. Quoting expenditure figures doesn't make me feel more secure at all. Money is a tool only. If I have a screwdriver and yet screws are falling out of all my chairs people would be right to question my use of the tool.Pointing out its size and adaptabiliy is not a defense.
Show less of commentCaro1000
Community Member 6 years agoEverybody I know I would willingly pay more to have a police force that is fit for practise, Why, if he is worried about crime in London, has he cut the police force so they cannot perform well, and shut police stations Also given us a...
Show full commentEverybody I know I would willingly pay more to have a police force that is fit for practise, Why, if he is worried about crime in London, has he cut the police force so they cannot perform well, and shut police stations Also given us a silly telephone number where we cannot get through to the police for ages instead of the normal numbers we used to be able to contact them at the Police Station or even walk in there report crime. Most people know that if they commit relatively minor crimes they will get away with it, the police admit they do not have the manpower to deal with it. I’ve noticed also people’s driving on the roads is getting worse, jumping red traffic lights, wheelies on mopeds, speeding and undertaking when one sticks to the speed limit and that is in the last couple of days. I have no idea how much money was spent on putting a cycle lane in Enfield in Green Lane but I rarely see a cyclist on it, I do feel the money would be better spent on the police force. He is supposed to be concerned about the air quality in London also but is allowing hundreds of flats to be built where everybody has cars and the pollution and the traffic is just getting worse. Rant over.
Show less of commentHidden Tiger S…
Community Member 6 years agoPolice haunting their offices in any police station is an age problem. It's safe and warm in the office. Paper work always expands to fill time available.
In this modern age I can dictate the words I want to appear in the fields in a data...
Show full commentPolice haunting their offices in any police station is an age problem. It's safe and warm in the office. Paper work always expands to fill time available.
In this modern age I can dictate the words I want to appear in the fields in a data base.
Interviews with those willing to go on the record can be taken on chest cams .If not why waste money on them if they cannot be used as evidence
Young police need counciling as I really seem to scare them when I ask for the time of day or ask for directions. I can tell as they jump jobs bit and swing round startled - *what do you want"?"
What do I want!
( It should be: Good afternoon or usually good morning why are you out so early?)
What do i want?
The usual things:
Where is the bus stop? Where is the public toilet? How do I get to the station? What time is it?! Where is there somewhere warm and dry? Where's the nearest cafe? Where is the nearest Pub? Is their a. TAXI rank near here?
Show less of commentAnnetta
Community Member 6 years agoThis all sounds positve but first can we see what the budget is now and what is required for this initiative? All we hear is that we need more cuts so how can this be successful? Can we start by having a more open, clear demonstration of...
Show full commentThis all sounds positve but first can we see what the budget is now and what is required for this initiative? All we hear is that we need more cuts so how can this be successful? Can we start by having a more open, clear demonstration of where the responsibilities and budgets divide between the government, the mayor and the local council?
In order to get Londoners involved you need to provide the officers and specialists first.
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Community Member 6 years agoWe need more police on the streets and not pen pushing in offices
Show full commentWe need more police on the streets and not pen pushing in offices
Show less of commentSwordbill
Community Member 6 years agoI agree with many of the comments already made. It's so obvious that the police funding has to be restored and maintained at proper levels, and the top brass should get on with policing and not politics. Seems too obvious for words that...
Show full commentI agree with many of the comments already made. It's so obvious that the police funding has to be restored and maintained at proper levels, and the top brass should get on with policing and not politics. Seems too obvious for words that community policing is a vital element as well as proper sentencing. Why do we never hear of new prisons being built or proper dealing with criminals? Sentencing of a few months achieves nothing as there's no time to make any progress with rehabilitation, re-education or indeed any proper punishment. Also seems the prison service staff need support and proper leadership. In my mind, those at the top have a lot to answer for, as they've presided over the gradual mess we now find ourselves in....and that includes Mrs May who was at the Home Office. As with so many things, politics are the main cause of so much of our woes. Why can't we examine those countries or cities who do policing well and copy them?
Show less of commentRos Howarth
Community Member 6 years agoThe police cannot do their job properly while they are faced with constant budget cuts. Even the 101 service doesn't work. It asks you to log the incident online. Give them the budgets they need to do their jobs. We pay our taxes and we...
Show full commentThe police cannot do their job properly while they are faced with constant budget cuts. Even the 101 service doesn't work. It asks you to log the incident online. Give them the budgets they need to do their jobs. We pay our taxes and we have a right to expect a good service.
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Community Member 6 years agoViolence does not appear to be a problem in Finchley.
Show full commentViolence does not appear to be a problem in Finchley.
Show less of commentNexus9
Community Member 6 years agoAll smoke and mirrors! We need more police officers, more foot and mobile patrols of our neighbourhoods and we need our local police stations reopened.
A new Violence Reduction Unit? we had one once, back then it was called a Police Force...
Show full commentAll smoke and mirrors! We need more police officers, more foot and mobile patrols of our neighbourhoods and we need our local police stations reopened.
A new Violence Reduction Unit? we had one once, back then it was called a Police Force.
Violent Crime Taskforce? wasn't that The Flying Squad?
The questions " Do you think that it is important to bring together different services and involve communities when designing solutions to tackle violent crime? What can Londoners, families and communities do to help prevent violence?" shouldn't need to be asked in the first place. The answers are simple - More Police Needed!
Show less of commentHuwC
Community Member 6 years agoProblem is crime grows as it’s allowed to. Police now ignore ‘minor’ drug offences, and weren’t bothered when I reported these, so crime will grow like a cancer.
police need to crack down on minor stuff to stop th8ngs developing.
Show full commentProblem is crime grows as it’s allowed to. Police now ignore ‘minor’ drug offences, and weren’t bothered when I reported these, so crime will grow like a cancer.
police need to crack down on minor stuff to stop th8ngs developing.
Show less of commentDPJ777.
Community Member 6 years agoYES, AND WHEN ARE THE POLICE GOING TO DO THE JOB FOR WHICH THERE HIGHLY REWARED FOR AND ACCUTALLY PREVENT CRIME. I SIRLEY DONT KNOW, BECAUSE IF THIS IS SO CALLED MODERN POLICE, IM A DUCTHMAD, ALL I SEE IS CRIME IS UP AMD POLICE DO LESS &...
Show full commentYES, AND WHEN ARE THE POLICE GOING TO DO THE JOB FOR WHICH THERE HIGHLY REWARED FOR AND ACCUTALLY PREVENT CRIME. I SIRLEY DONT KNOW, BECAUSE IF THIS IS SO CALLED MODERN POLICE, IM A DUCTHMAD, ALL I SEE IS CRIME IS UP AMD POLICE DO LESS & Less. DPJ777.
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Community Member 6 years agoNobody has mentioned internet policing. We need police to do more to find and follow up drug-sellers advertising on the internet, wannabe gangsters making plans on social media, etc.
Show full commentNobody has mentioned internet policing. We need police to do more to find and follow up drug-sellers advertising on the internet, wannabe gangsters making plans on social media, etc.
Show less of commentsumchcc
Community Member 6 years agoI would like to ask the Mayor the following questions about this:
1. How would this initiative be funded?
2. How many "dedicated" police personnel would you have available for this initiative at all times?
3. What would be their actual...
Show full commentI would like to ask the Mayor the following questions about this:
1. How would this initiative be funded?
2. How many "dedicated" police personnel would you have available for this initiative at all times?
3. What would be their actual mandate (rules of engagement)?
John Fuller
Community Member 6 years agoI may be wrong but a lot of violent crime which relates to murder seems to arise from a gang culture. To be fair this is usually unpredictable as to who when and where so I think any task force needs to focus on the gaining of intelligence...
Show full commentI may be wrong but a lot of violent crime which relates to murder seems to arise from a gang culture. To be fair this is usually unpredictable as to who when and where so I think any task force needs to focus on the gaining of intelligence as an attempt to prevent it happening rather than dealing with the aftermath. Part is the need to try to undertake stop and search for weapons although of course parental responsibility is also critical.Recruitment needs to be from experienced officers with local knowledge and so a trust develops at local level to try to scale down what seems to be a rising level of the murder of so many young people. Without community support no task force will be able to manage the challenges which it will face.Nor should expectations be pitched too high so that all that follows is inevitable disappointment as lasting change is slow to be delivered.
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Community Member 6 years agoWe would love to see the police:
1. To be active in the community; going on patrols around the streets.
2. Instead of chasing rough sleepers, stop crimes.
Show full commentWe would love to see the police:
1. To be active in the community; going on patrols around the streets.
2. Instead of chasing rough sleepers, stop crimes.
Show less of commentGiacomo
Community Member 6 years agoThey chase rough sleepers! The police I see today could not chance a man on crutches up hill.
Show full commentThey chase rough sleepers! The police I see today could not chance a man on crutches up hill.
Show less of commentTONY1938
Community Member 6 years agoNew packaging for formerly failed ideas. Talking shops equal no action only papers. Get out there and nick'em.
Show full commentNew packaging for formerly failed ideas. Talking shops equal no action only papers. Get out there and nick'em.
Show less of commenttayloej
Community Member 6 years agoThink attention needs to be given to the existing police teams working together internally and with local communities.
When considering the significant decline in effective Neighbourhood Policing I believe the starting point is to address...
Show full commentThink attention needs to be given to the existing police teams working together internally and with local communities.
When considering the significant decline in effective Neighbourhood Policing I believe the starting point is to address this before adding another layer which will just cause greater ambiguity on what each police team are actually responsible for.
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Community Member 6 years agoWe need more Police and tougher sentancing. Local communities need Police Stations reopened. The Police need more money not less in general. How can you expect Local Communities to do more when there aren't enough Police to help us and...
Show full commentWe need more Police and tougher sentancing. Local communities need Police Stations reopened. The Police need more money not less in general. How can you expect Local Communities to do more when there aren't enough Police to help us and protect us now and not enough money being spent on local Policing. How will the Police find time to meet with local communities when there aren't enough of them to deal with basic crime. My area is becoming out of control and certain parts are no go areas at night or even in the day - I live on the outskirts of London and we used to have lower crime rates than central London but not anymore.
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Community Member 6 years agoDespite all the negative comments on this topic, we are being looked after. For me the issue is we do not see it. A Bobby on the beat would be a good start. Nothing like seeing a poiceman walking about for one to realise that they are there...
Show full commentDespite all the negative comments on this topic, we are being looked after. For me the issue is we do not see it. A Bobby on the beat would be a good start. Nothing like seeing a poiceman walking about for one to realise that they are there, doing the best they can under circumstances that sometimes beggar belief. As has been said already, we really need more "Bobbys" .now.
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Community Member 6 years agoViolent crime in London is rising. That's the problem.
Show full commentViolent crime in London is rising. That's the problem.
Show less of commentCOSMA
Community Member 6 years agoThe negative comments come from people who are genuinely worried about the vast increase in crimes in London and want it to stop.
Of course, there is something very reassuring when we spot police persons parading down the road, it is...
Show full commentThe negative comments come from people who are genuinely worried about the vast increase in crimes in London and want it to stop.
Of course, there is something very reassuring when we spot police persons parading down the road, it is nowdays a suprising experience, however, we have to acknowlege and address that there are issues in our society that had managed to make people feel it is OK and somehow trendy to behave in a barbaric way.
Show less of commentrjbrooks
Community Member 6 years agoWe did without the GLC 1986 - 2000 before deciding to have a mayor and all the other add-ons that involved e.g. buildings, assembly members etc. We could probably have a bigger police force without meddling from a mayor - any mayor of any...
Show full commentWe did without the GLC 1986 - 2000 before deciding to have a mayor and all the other add-ons that involved e.g. buildings, assembly members etc. We could probably have a bigger police force without meddling from a mayor - any mayor of any big city in the UK. Why do we need police commissioners too who often have no experience in policing? How about taking on what used to be the standard Bobby - someone who wanted to do good for the community who certainly didn't have to be a graduate. Both my father, brother and cousin would have not have been eligible but served loyally for 30 years each.
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