Ban on unhealthy food adverts on Transport for London network

Should advertising of unhealthy foods be banned on the Transport for London network, or beyond? If not, why not?

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The draft London Food Strategy proposes a ban on advertising of food and drink that is not healthy on the Transport for London estate, to help reduce childhood obesity. This includes places like Underground stations, bus stops, buses, tube carriages, advertising on taxis, etc.

What do you think? Should advertising of unhealthy foods be limited on the Transport for London network, or beyond? If not, why not?

The discussion ran from 11 May 2018 - 29 August 2018

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UK OBESITY PROBLEMS: CHECK YOUR DRAINS FOR SOLUTION

 

In my opinion and from personal observations and personal experience...I feel the solution Britain needs to tackle obesity in adult and children is down the drain...many homes across...

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UK OBESITY PROBLEMS: CHECK YOUR DRAINS FOR SOLUTION

 

In my opinion and from personal observations and personal experience...I feel the solution Britain needs to tackle obesity in adult and children is down the drain...many homes across the globe have issues with clogged pipes; Thames water recently produced a flyer tagged "bin it" ....May I please request the Mayor of London and his team to not just stop advertisement of junk food but produce a similar flier requesting the entire populace to simply bin these items from their daily meals:

1. Grease e.g butter

2.factory made Oil...of all types

3. Factory made sugar 

 

The first 2 above clogges our kitchen pipes...became a menace for Thames water last year...in fact adding these items to our meals is like folding up such meals in oil-bag...making it difficult for the body to process our food...the body doesn't even know what to do with all the oil and grease an average British populace consumes DAILY...these are stored in our body pipes, i.e. ARTERY, BUTS, extra chin and all other unwanted weight/fat hidden in various fold around and within the body...leading to diseases like stroke, blood clotting, pains, and worst of all stored as fat...childhood obesity etc

I wonder why no one seem to be looking at things from this angle...shall we look at Thames waters "bin it" image to produce a similar advert using human pipes...e.g clogged arteries 

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I know why nobody is looking at it from this angle.  What's that multinational company that makes a fortune frying up burgers and chips, again?

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I know why nobody is looking at it from this angle.  What's that multinational company that makes a fortune frying up burgers and chips, again?

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You are absolutely right...GDP often comes first to many of our policy makers 

I strongly feel the adverts on our trains should include images of human circulatory system clogged up with butter & oil ...just as Thames water channel was...

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You are absolutely right...GDP often comes first to many of our policy makers 

I strongly feel the adverts on our trains should include images of human circulatory system clogged up with butter & oil ...just as Thames water channel was clogged up last year

I hope the Mayor and his team looks up Thames water image titled "Bin it" and use similar approach depicting clogged up human circulatory system

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I think an advertising ban would be useful but wouldn’t work on its own. While it would reduce kids exposure to the sort of food and drink that is making many grossly overweight it won’t work if their parents either feed them rubbish or...

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I think an advertising ban would be useful but wouldn’t work on its own. While it would reduce kids exposure to the sort of food and drink that is making many grossly overweight it won’t work if their parents either feed them rubbish or give them money to buy it themselves. Not sure what the solution to this is because it’s not as if there haven’t been endless campaigns to try and change habits. I guess if we really can’t trust parents to do their bit then more draconian measures may be called for - but I for one like the odd tray of chips and gravy and would hate to see these sort of places driven out of business. But maybe we simply don’t need so many?

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It's a good idea and one that I wholeheartedly support.  I get pressure from my children, to buy unhealthy food that they have seen advertised on children's channels, so I don't think that it is unreasonable to assume that they are...

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It's a good idea and one that I wholeheartedly support.  I get pressure from my children, to buy unhealthy food that they have seen advertised on children's channels, so I don't think that it is unreasonable to assume that they are influenced by advertising at tube stations and on buses. Children need to be educated that the food companies, will continue to develop food products, low on good nutrition but full of additives and preservatives to enhance shelf life. They need to understand that the food industry does not care, if the aggressive marketing campaigns aimed at children, contributes to the obesity epedemic and associated diseases.  A ban on TFL, is a step in the right direction.

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again another sheep. It is someone else is fault. It is your fault it is your money. 

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again another sheep. It is someone else is fault. It is your fault it is your money. 

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I think the local government should be worrying about more important issues such as knife crime and homelessness 

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I think the local government should be worrying about more important issues such as knife crime and homelessness 

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Your absolutely right, but neither party will admit to the underlying causes.

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Your absolutely right, but neither party will admit to the underlying causes.

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If you get too fat, you won't fit through the front door.  Then you'll have to sleep on the street.

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If you get too fat, you won't fit through the front door.  Then you'll have to sleep on the street.

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Smacks of Nanny State, "the man in Whitehall knows best".

The fast food industry probably employs a few thousand people across London plus on the logistics side. If you target this industry and  demands contracts, what do you reckon these...

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Smacks of Nanny State, "the man in Whitehall knows best".

The fast food industry probably employs a few thousand people across London plus on the logistics side. If you target this industry and  demands contracts, what do you reckon these people are going to do for a living?

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1) With that slightly tired old argument, you could also oppose any moves against the coal industry, the weapons industry, the illegal drugs industry, etc. etc.

2) You know how the fast food industry could cope with that? By promoting...

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1) With that slightly tired old argument, you could also oppose any moves against the coal industry, the weapons industry, the illegal drugs industry, etc. etc.

2) You know how the fast food industry could cope with that? By promoting healthier food. It doesn't actually take fewer employees to make your food healthier (and once they do that, they can also advertise on TfL property again)... And yes, "healthier fastfood" is definitely possible - and no, it doesn't have to be a lot more expensive, once it becomes more mainstream and less niche...

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(1) I am not talking about Coal, Arms or drugs etc, so no need to try and confuse the issue.

(2) If Mac healthy fast food was viable, then where is it? Why hasn't it happened already?

(3) "once they do that, they can also advertise on Tfl...

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(1) I am not talking about Coal, Arms or drugs etc, so no need to try and confuse the issue.

(2) If Mac healthy fast food was viable, then where is it? Why hasn't it happened already?

(3) "once they do that, they can also advertise on Tfl property again." But in the meantime fares will have to rise to cover lost revenue from advertising.

 

 

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Yep, ban it outright, less advertising = less sales of this type of food = manufacturers changing their products to ones the are allowed to advertise (i.e. the healthier foods).

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Yep, ban it outright, less advertising = less sales of this type of food = manufacturers changing their products to ones the are allowed to advertise (i.e. the healthier foods).

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healthy food defined by whom. So call experts!!! in my life, red wine and butter have gone through several cycles of being good or bad for you depending on what day of the week it is. 

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healthy food defined by whom. So call experts!!! in my life, red wine and butter have gone through several cycles of being good or bad for you depending on what day of the week it is. 

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Dave, that is an issue. But at any point in time there is usually a degree of consensus among the experts (you know, those people who study the evidence and earn recognition as authorities in the field). TfL would need to be transparent...

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Dave, that is an issue. But at any point in time there is usually a degree of consensus among the experts (you know, those people who study the evidence and earn recognition as authorities in the field). TfL would need to be transparent about what it considered acceptable.

What I find harder to understand is hostility to an idea that could improve public health. As if letting businesses spend millions to persuade people, including children, to eat as much fat and sugar as possible, in the knowledge that it makes them ill, is somehow a good thing.

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Yes, advertising for unhealthy foods should be stopped on the Transport for London network.

If adverts didn't have any effect on us then the big firms that buy it wouldn't spend millions of Pounds plastering their messages to consume...

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Yes, advertising for unhealthy foods should be stopped on the Transport for London network.

If adverts didn't have any effect on us then the big firms that buy it wouldn't spend millions of Pounds plastering their messages to consume excessive amounts of overly processed pap on any surface that can be seen.

Give us all a break from this visual commercial onslaught.

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only sheep are effected by adverts. Be a wolf and stop blaming other people for your problems 

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only sheep are effected by adverts. Be a wolf and stop blaming other people for your problems 

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Sheep are really not affected by adverts.  Not at all.  Anyone who doubts the power of adverts, whether consciously or unconsciously to affect our behaviour is not really paying attention.  Yes we should fight back against the role that...

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Sheep are really not affected by adverts.  Not at all.  Anyone who doubts the power of adverts, whether consciously or unconsciously to affect our behaviour is not really paying attention.  Yes we should fight back against the role that unregulated profit-maximisation has played in creating a grotesquely obese population.  Ban 'em. 

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