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Paris' most famous boulevard, the Champs-Elysees, will soon be closed to motor traffic on the first Sunday of every month. Nine other routes will also be pedestrianised every Sunday and public holiday, adding to 13 that already restrict traffic as part of the ‘Paris Respire’ anti-pollution programme.

Would you welcome pedestrianisation or car-free days in central London? If not, why not? What are the main benefits, or otherwise, from your perspective?

The discussion ran from 26 April 2016 - 26 July 2016

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Shopping in Kingston is such a nice experience, mainly due to the fact that most of the area is for pedestrian only. It would be nice if more areas were pedestrians-only. Famous shopping streets such Kings Road, Oxford street and Regent...

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Shopping in Kingston is such a nice experience, mainly due to the fact that most of the area is for pedestrian only. It would be nice if more areas were pedestrians-only. Famous shopping streets such Kings Road, Oxford street and Regent street are uttterly awful thanks to the traffic.

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No problem with bikes and pedestrians sharing the same space.

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I would much prefer all shops to close on Sundays so residents of Westminster could have their city back

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I would much prefer all shops to close on Sundays so residents of Westminster could have their city back

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Hi Terry

How about you taking your people to places where there are no cars.

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It would be a dusaster for elderly people with mobility problems. They would be forced to stay at home.

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Recently Age Concern released a report stating that 67% of Londoners over 60 prefer to use public transport, walk or cycle over driving. Safer, calmer streets would make mobility easier for all, especially as those over 75 and under 18 who...

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Recently Age Concern released a report stating that 67% of Londoners over 60 prefer to use public transport, walk or cycle over driving. Safer, calmer streets would make mobility easier for all, especially as those over 75 and under 18 who are the most vulnerable on our roads.

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Ban all cyclists free the streets up for electric cars

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How would that work, when almost all the space on the road is taken up by ordinary cars?

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The trouble is that electric cars are the same size as normal cars, and are just as congesting - especially if many of them continue to carry just one person for the majority of the time.

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The trouble is that electric cars are the same size as normal cars, and are just as congesting - especially if many of them continue to carry just one person for the majority of the time.

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Wonderful idea

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Depends on whether it is actually pedestrian, i.e. people using their feet to walk, not pedal. Cyclists are at best a nuisance expecting people (even in wheelchairs) to get out of their way, and at worst a danger especially to children and...

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Depends on whether it is actually pedestrian, i.e. people using their feet to walk, not pedal. Cyclists are at best a nuisance expecting people (even in wheelchairs) to get out of their way, and at worst a danger especially to children and the elderly.

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I ride a bike sometimes, but never expect anyone to get out of my way. Am I a nuisance to you?

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I ride a bike sometimes, but never expect anyone to get out of my way. Am I a nuisance to you?

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I am totally and utterly and, to quote the Welsh windbag, utterly and totally against car-free zones in London. Have one or two pedestrian-only shopping streets if you must - but spare us the socialist claptrap and deliver us from the...

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I am totally and utterly and, to quote the Welsh windbag, utterly and totally against car-free zones in London. Have one or two pedestrian-only shopping streets if you must - but spare us the socialist claptrap and deliver us from the militant transport unions.

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Wanting clean air is socialist? And claptrap??

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If you want clean air, don't go to places where it isn't. Simples ! But leave those of us who want to or must use a car alone. I await your "reply" to the militant trade unions bit and how they would never take advantage of a car-free...

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If you want clean air, don't go to places where it isn't. Simples ! But leave those of us who want to or must use a car alone. I await your "reply" to the militant trade unions bit and how they would never take advantage of a car-free London - ha-ha.

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Certainly not.
We already have Trafalgr Squre spoilt.
Roads should be open to all, including motor vehicles, with the exception of a very small minority which are simply to small to accommodate cars.
The fact that Paris is going mad with...

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Certainly not.
We already have Trafalgr Squre spoilt.
Roads should be open to all, including motor vehicles, with the exception of a very small minority which are simply to small to accommodate cars.
The fact that Paris is going mad with extreme left-wing car hating is a good reason for London to do nothing similar.
NO NEW ROAD CLOSURES

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Having encountered people from across the political spectrum who want urgent action to be taken to radically reduce vehicular pollution, I am interested to hear that in France this is a lefty thing.

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I wouldn't mind the occasional day for a particular reason as long as it's well flagged and organised. Remeber many old people, who find public transport difficult, need cars to get around, particularly if they live further out from centarl...

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I wouldn't mind the occasional day for a particular reason as long as it's well flagged and organised. Remeber many old people, who find public transport difficult, need cars to get around, particularly if they live further out from centarl London and will therefore be excluded.

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I would like to see an increase in initiatives which favour walking and cycling as there simply are too many cars on the road. By on the road I mean both moving and stationary. There is little or no need for any individual to own more than...

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I would like to see an increase in initiatives which favour walking and cycling as there simply are too many cars on the road. By on the road I mean both moving and stationary. There is little or no need for any individual to own more than one car in London (if anywhere) and I would support a premium tax to own or park (on the public highway) second cars. The car lobby remains all powerful (and abusive of cyclists in particular). As a car driver, cyclist and pedestrian I support both pedestrianised and car free zones permanently and occasionally. Keep the streets free.

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I do not think car-free days are useful - it is just confusing to everybody. However there should be more permanent pedestrian zones, particularly Oxford Street which is a disgrace to London at present and could easily be pedestrianised...

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I do not think car-free days are useful - it is just confusing to everybody. However there should be more permanent pedestrian zones, particularly Oxford Street which is a disgrace to London at present and could easily be pedestrianised with a tram or guided bus lane down the middle (electric, of course). For polution concerns, the congestion charge should apply to all vehicles except electric and hydrogen to encourage taxis and other currently exempt vehicles to use non-poluting fuels (with an escallating charge published 10 years ahead to ensure that investment decisions go the right way).

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Unfortunately most of the Oxford Street buses are on through-routes and run in both directions - these should all be lpg or electric of course. But Oxford Street is too narrow to accommodate a bus lane down the middle. It is essentially a...

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Unfortunately most of the Oxford Street buses are on through-routes and run in both directions - these should all be lpg or electric of course. But Oxford Street is too narrow to accommodate a bus lane down the middle. It is essentially a two-way bus lane as it is. One solution might be to have the whole central area only for electric and lpg vehicles, so that buses could use other roads without causing diesel pollution and noise in the residential streets. There would still be the serious problem of toxic small particulate pollution from tyres on roads, but it would be a major improvement to get rid of the diesel pollution.

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Extend the congestion charge out to at least Zone 2. Ban private cars altogether within the ring of the Circle line, exceptions could be made for (registered/genuine) blue badges where individuals might have no alternative but to use their...

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Extend the congestion charge out to at least Zone 2. Ban private cars altogether within the ring of the Circle line, exceptions could be made for (registered/genuine) blue badges where individuals might have no alternative but to use their own adapted vehicles.

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Yes I would love to see regular traffic-free days in central London.

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Bike tracks are a greater priority than travelators. Travelators would be another hindrance to crossing the road, and once they are installed people will say there is no room for tracks. No doubt they would be very expensive and there would...

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Bike tracks are a greater priority than travelators. Travelators would be another hindrance to crossing the road, and once they are installed people will say there is no room for tracks. No doubt they would be very expensive and there would be better ways to spend the money. And almost by definition, if people can get to the zone, they prove that travelators aren't essential. The same applies to scooters, which don't mix well with foot traffic anyway. They could use the bike tracks of course.

Roofs would have to be retractable, otherwise air quality on motor traffic days would be even worse. That would make them very expensive. And it would be hard to stop people smoking in the covered areas.

What a pedestrian zone chiefly needs is the absence of motor traffic. But there are things that could make a more attractive place, such as planting, art works, seating etc.

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Anything that moves at more than a walking pace would have to have drivers provided - else would be hijacked by people wanting to drive them recklessly for fun. And by just plain bad drivers. Electric or lpg small people transporters of...

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Anything that moves at more than a walking pace would have to have drivers provided - else would be hijacked by people wanting to drive them recklessly for fun. And by just plain bad drivers. Electric or lpg small people transporters of some kind would be necessary I think.

Travelators are hardly a new idea - local residents have over the years often requested replacement of buses, taxis etc but travelators. Nobody listens. And again, people would manage to trip over them, fall off, whatever.

It is essential to drastically reduce traffic in central London, but even more essential not to do this by displacing buses to residential side streets and deliveries to night time in residential side streets.

And the 24-hour city is definitely NOT for these mixed residential areas.

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A lot of you have raised issues of accessibility here, for those with a disability and for older Londoners. This is of course key. There have a been a few suggestions within the comments above, such as for a constant supply of mobility scooters and carefully designed paving. What do others think of these ideas? Could they work well? Any more ideas?

We’ve been discussing the content here with the relevant policy teams at City Hall this afternoon, who are also interested to hear more on new ideas for London such as travelators to move people around, and retractable roofs/covers (or partial covers) of streets. Do others think these would be good features of a pedestrianised area? Have you experienced them elsewhere? What have you seen elsewhere that hasn’t worked as well? We’d love to hear more.

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Please stop wasting our time with this nonsense.
We have had to endure 8 years of bus mad Ken, and then 8 yeas of bike mad Boris.
What we need is people who know how to get the traffic moving, and provide ample free parking -and actually...

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Please stop wasting our time with this nonsense.
We have had to endure 8 years of bus mad Ken, and then 8 yeas of bike mad Boris.
What we need is people who know how to get the traffic moving, and provide ample free parking -and actually want to do it.

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The more space we provide for cars, the more people drive, so the space soon fills up.

Meanwhile you are poisoning the air every time you go out, contributing to thousands of deaths. Can you suggest a plan to stop that? Should we all wear...

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The more space we provide for cars, the more people drive, so the space soon fills up.

Meanwhile you are poisoning the air every time you go out, contributing to thousands of deaths. Can you suggest a plan to stop that? Should we all wear breathing apparatus while you drive?

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Yes, I would welcome a number of zones like this in London's zone 1 - perhaps one in each of Notting Hill, Paddington, South Kensington, Shoreditch, West End, Southark, and so on.

It would be in line with the policy to decrease motor...

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Yes, I would welcome a number of zones like this in London's zone 1 - perhaps one in each of Notting Hill, Paddington, South Kensington, Shoreditch, West End, Southark, and so on.

It would be in line with the policy to decrease motor traffic and encourage sustainable and healthy means of transport like cycling, walking and mass transit. It's good for the budget, for general health, pollution and energy independence.

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Regent Street will be car free for the 4 Sunday's in July once again this year.
As London grows (25% in the next 15 years) there will be more people on our footway, more people on public transport, more delivery vehicles and potentially...

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Regent Street will be car free for the 4 Sunday's in July once again this year.
As London grows (25% in the next 15 years) there will be more people on our footway, more people on public transport, more delivery vehicles and potentially more cars. We simply cannot allow this to happen as the city will grind to a halt. We have to be smarter and do things differently. Regent street (again) has for the last 6 years adopted delivery consolidation. 39 shops have combined their deliveries using an electric lorry. This has reduced lorry movements by 80% and generates zero tailpipe emissions. Looking at buses and you cannot fail to notice that the 300 buses an hour which travel along Oxford Street rarely have more than 10 passengers on them. Taxis and minicabs similarly are mostly empty or have one passenger.....We simply cannot afford to use road space in out ever more crowded city in this way.
And this madness is causing the biggest public health crisis of all...10,000 deaths per annum caused by poor air quality.
We all have to reduce the use of internal combustion engine vehicles in London. Yes there have to be special arrangements for those with disabilities. Yes it is important that goods get delivered. But no, that is not an excuse for carrying on doing what we have always done because that is the way we have always done it.

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