• Question by: Geoff Pope
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

So what do you now say is the total revenue loss on the whole bus service per year?

• Question by: Geoff Pope
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

There is also a bit of a problem with your mathematics here, because when you responded to my question earlier this year about the revenue loss, you said that there was £8 million on the articulated buses and £22 million on double decker buses. David Brown, the Managing Director, did confirm that £30 million was the loss last year for total bus service. Do we not seem to have forgotten the single decker buses?

• Question by: Geoff Pope
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

OK. It would be useful to actually know what the figure is - rather like the Olympics. Otherwise we cannot check to see if it is improving.

• Question by: Roger Evans
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

So we may have them in future?

• Question by: Roger Evans
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

Just a moment, Chairman, please, we will move on to the bendy buses. How many police officers and ticket inspectors does it take to carry out an exercise on a bendy bus?

• Question by: Geoff Pope
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

They do not seem to be having much impact because we are told that nearly 10% of all revenue is lost on these bendy buses.

• Question by: Angie Bray
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

You are blaming us for your policies. You are blaming us for our scrutiny.

• Question by: Roger Evans
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

You rightly said that you have to estimate the amount of money that you are losing. How do you carry out that calculation to reach that result?

• Question by: Roger Evans
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

It usually looks like a lot more than that when operations are carried out on the bendy buses in central London.

• Question by: Roger Evans
• Meeting date: 21 March 2007

So if he did come up with that plan, you would not automatically say no, despite having told us that you had ruled it out before?