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Using defibrillators in London

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Did you know that 87% of cardiac arrests (when a person’s heart stops beating) happen outside of hospital?  

Maximising the number of defibrillators across London will help people increase their chances of surviving a cardiac arrest.  

A defibrillator is a device that gives an electric shock to the heart of someone who is in cardiac arrest. 

On 16 October 2023 - World Restart a Heart day - the Mayor announced that all London Underground and Overground stations now have public defibrillators.

City Hall’s Health policy team wants to know if Londoners will feel confident enough to use these new defibrillators if they see a person in cardiac arrest. Astrid, Anmol and Kay from the team will be reading your contributions and signposting to lifesaving training and resources.   

We want to hear from you: 

  • Would you feel confident using a defibrillator if you see someone having a cardiac arrest? Why or why not? 
  • What might hold you back from using a defibrillator? 
  • Where in your local area or community have you seen a defib? What kind of places would you like to see more defibs? 
  • What, if anything, would encourage you to sign-up to a free course on using defibrillators and lifesaving skills?  
  • What do you think might help raise awareness of these new defibrillators and empower people to use them?  

Tell us more in the discussion below.  

The discussion ran from 16 October 2023 - 17 March 2024

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Comments (226)

Avatar for - Sea turtle

If I knew where a defib was within easy walk/access and there was nobody more qualified to use one or perform cpr I would definitely give it a go and try to save a life. In South and South East London tubes/overground not as easily...

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If I knew where a defib was within easy walk/access and there was nobody more qualified to use one or perform cpr I would definitely give it a go and try to save a life. In South and South East London tubes/overground not as easily reachable as North. Have had cpr training but decades ago and could use a refresher course, but as a pensioner now there seems nothing locally without fees to pay, unlike in past years when it was free. Haven't seen defibs locally in Greenwich,  would like to see them where most people go- pubs, cinemas, libraries/community areas, major convenience stores - Sainsburys local, Co-Op's, Tesco Express etc. Local news like the Greenwich council weekly paper should feature locations. Quick Google search maybe for nearest one possible if they are equipped with satellite locations? I'd sign up for a free course if local for sure. Convince Greenwich Council (and all councils who use forms of news distribution) to do more to make people aware of locations and how to use defibs in their weekly news to every resident. It's full of useless info so shouldn't be hard to get a space for something really important!!

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I'd hope that the number of passengers around would include others more medically-qualified than myself, so I don't see these as a bad thing.
I would however expect some station staff to be present and that they'd have received the...

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I'd hope that the number of passengers around would include others more medically-qualified than myself, so I don't see these as a bad thing.
I would however expect some station staff to be present and that they'd have received the approproate training - and that that would be reflected in their pay.
I can also foresee possible misuse - either accidentally (eg before normal CPR had been delivered) or with malicious intent - another reason to ensure there are enough staff present at stations and on plarforms.

And, with the increasing Americanisation of those willing to sue after occasions of mistakes or misuse, what protection will there be for the well-intentioned?

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I'd welcome being shown how to use a defib - and how to perform CPR manually.

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It would be useful to know both CPR and how to use a difibrulator.

Avatar for - Sea turtle

I learnt to use a defibrillator on a Red Cross first aid course some years ago. But a refresher would be very welcome as of course being with someone in cardiac arrest would be very stressful. I remember that the machine gives instructions...

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I learnt to use a defibrillator on a Red Cross first aid course some years ago. But a refresher would be very welcome as of course being with someone in cardiac arrest would be very stressful. I remember that the machine gives instructions so that could be reassuring. Good luck with this valuable initiative 

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Unskilled.  I am a retired teacher in her 80s.  I have not in my long career ever received life saving skills other than s specific advice if I had a child with a specific illness..e.g. ype 1 diabetes/  I doubt I would now feel confident...

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Unskilled.  I am a retired teacher in her 80s.  I have not in my long career ever received life saving skills other than s specific advice if I had a child with a specific illness..e.g. ype 1 diabetes/  I doubt I would now feel confident enough to use heart resuscitation but if there was no alternative person I would be horrified if I didn't know the basics and then would of course do what I could.

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Avatar for - Sumatran elephant

whilst it is great to have difib equipmewnt on the underground, pehaps improving the air quality on the underground woul more dramatcally reduce events,  

perhaps dictator Kahn should have thought about this before the ULEZ lies

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whilst it is great to have difib equipmewnt on the underground, pehaps improving the air quality on the underground woul more dramatcally reduce events,  

perhaps dictator Kahn should have thought about this before the ULEZ lies

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Avatar for - Sea turtle

teadogg and others, please keep this to discussion about saving lives and non political? Thanks!

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I would not feel confident as I am concerned about causing harm by not using it correctly e.g I don't know at what point it should be used and where to place it. I'm happy to take a practical lesson on when and how to use it. 

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I would not feel confident as I am concerned about causing harm by not using it correctly e.g I don't know at what point it should be used and where to place it. I'm happy to take a practical lesson on when and how to use it. 

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I was trained in Emergency First Aid & Defib by a firefighter. 

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I was trained in Emergency First Aid & Defib by a firefighter. 

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Once I saw a defibrillator I saw how easy it was to use. I am aware that once the patient has the pads on it is the machine that makes the decisions. Follow easy instructions, pictures and written, I think. Very unlikely to cause any harm...

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Once I saw a defibrillator I saw how easy it was to use. I am aware that once the patient has the pads on it is the machine that makes the decisions. Follow easy instructions, pictures and written, I think. Very unlikely to cause any harm using. Not using the defibrillator increases the very real risk of death.

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After seeing some of the comments I feel it would have been useful to attach an

 ONLINE LEARNING LINK 

to this survey which would have dispelled some of the fear.

 

 

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After seeing some of the comments I feel it would have been useful to attach an

 ONLINE LEARNING LINK 

to this survey which would have dispelled some of the fear.

 

 

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Avatar for - Orangutan

Lifesaving skills especially for those who aren't taught such skills in school is absolutely a must.

Avatar for - Sumatran elephant

Allowing an impractical person like me to use one would be a menace to safety.

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I already know but would welcome an update 

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I already know but would welcome an update 

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