Designing London’s Recovery
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Imagine you’re out and about and need to use the toilet.
- What factors do you consider when deciding whether or not to use a public toilet?
- What would you need to see or hear in order for you to feel comfortable using a public toilet?
Have you come across any particularly good public toilets in London or elsewhere? What did you like about them?
Tell us more in the discussion below.
The discussion ran from 21 September 2022 - 16 October 2022
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Community Member 2 years agoPublic toilets are usually disgusting so I avoid them at all costs. They should manned to avoid dirty people abusing them.
Hcousins
Community Member 2 years agoToilets should be free. People like me with kidney disease are having to further damage themselves by avoiding drinking fluids
msn.com
Community Member 2 years agoI am old enough to remember when public toilets were common throughout central London. These have largely been closed and converted into bars, clubs and cafes. London has approx. 9m residents and around 30m visitors each year. is...
Show full commentI am old enough to remember when public toilets were common throughout central London. These have largely been closed and converted into bars, clubs and cafes. London has approx. 9m residents and around 30m visitors each year. is deplorable that one of the richest cities in the world, a mecca for tourism, has so few public toilets. This loss is in part compensated for by the increase in toilets in large take away outlets and shopping centres. However these are only available when the venue is open and in the former case designated for customer use only.
Even some of those toilets previously available in underground stations have been taken out of commission. There should be at least one accessible toilet at every GBR and TfL train station and every bus terminus.
Show less of commentLondonliberal
Community Member 2 years agoLondon used to have very good and well maintained public toilets. Those run by the City of Westminster and City of London were generally excellent. Since the Westminster Council sold them, they have either been closed or have introduced...
Show full commentLondon used to have very good and well maintained public toilets. Those run by the City of Westminster and City of London were generally excellent. Since the Westminster Council sold them, they have either been closed or have introduced charges while at the same time they are no longer maintained to previous standards. The City of London public toilets have also deteriorated.
It is a disgrace that some of the wealthiest boroughs in the country, probably in the world, have chosen to cut their budgets for public toilets. It is time something was done to reverse this as it is a disgrace that a world city like London no longer has good public and free to use toilet facilities and not a little embarrassing when explaining the lack of facilities to tourists and other visitors.
Show less of commentCaro1000
Community Member 2 years agoPublic toilets are in necessity however due to cost there is never anyone to look after them so they get used and abused if accessible to the general public consequently most have been closed because they were used for drugs, sexual and...
Show full commentPublic toilets are in necessity however due to cost there is never anyone to look after them so they get used and abused if accessible to the general public consequently most have been closed because they were used for drugs, sexual and other activities. Those little cubicles on the street you pay to get in; people frequently do not have the right change so cannot use them. I have often seen men urinating in the streets which is most unpleasant. A scheme was started in some areas a few years back where the council made a payment to restaurants and shops to make their toilets accessible the public and they had a sign in the windows stating this which struck me as a good idea. I don’t know if this is still going on. Everyone needs to go to the loo I don’t think one should have to pay for such a basic need and necessity in life.
Show less of commentalisonka
Community Member 2 years agoThe lack of free public toilets in London gives a poor impression of the city. Sometimes the availability of toilets deters me from going to certain areas.
Show full commentThe lack of free public toilets in London gives a poor impression of the city. Sometimes the availability of toilets deters me from going to certain areas.
Show less of commentArtG
Community Member 2 years agoLack of toilet facilities places limits on many people's use of public places and spaces.
Show full commentMany older people have a much more regular need for toilets, and I have relatives who must plan their day around availability - and simply cannot go...
Lack of toilet facilities places limits on many people's use of public places and spaces.
Show less of commentMany older people have a much more regular need for toilets, and I have relatives who must plan their day around availability - and simply cannot go to places where adequate facilities are not available.
I was aware of an elderly single lady who felt compelled to use a private garden because, though physically mobile, her needs meant she could not walk the full distance from her home to the nearest shops (where she could find a cafe toilet to use).
Like all infrastructure, facilities need to be designed for those with most need - stoma users, parents of babies and small children, prostate and many other medical conditions. If designed for the most needy, they will also be fit for general use by all.
Lack of cleanliness is also a barrier to use - especially for small children for whom hygiene is difficult.
Charges are also a barrier to entry for some people - especially those with no fixed address - for whom safe, clean toilet facilities are essential to maintaining hygiene and dignity.
I would like to see a scheme to support businesses (shops/cafes etc) which provide public toilets to a defined standard of cleanliness. An App and daily photos could be used to document compliance with standards in return for financial support to pay for cleaning/maintenance costs and to reward provision. Facilities with more inclusive facilities to attract more financial support.
bobthebuilder
Community Member 2 years agoSuch a scheme already exists. It's called the Community Toilet Scheme.
ArtG
Community Member 2 years ago@Bobthebuilder
Show full commentThank you. I was unaware of the Community Toilet Scheme, and yes, it does appear to pre-empt my comment!
Having Googled it, I have seen that my Borough is participating. Though I work from home, and use my local centre...
@Bobthebuilder
Show less of commentThank you. I was unaware of the Community Toilet Scheme, and yes, it does appear to pre-empt my comment!
Having Googled it, I have seen that my Borough is participating. Though I work from home, and use my local centre regularly, I had no idea of any local shops being participants.
I have now searched an online map, and on my High Street there is a lighting shop participating... brilliant, but not somewhere you'd expect, or know about unless you have heard of the scheme and looked up participating businesses on a map... not something some more needy or elderly people will be comfortable with. The CTS sounds great, but like a scheme in need of both greater visibility and resources, so it reaches more outlets and users, and MUCH better signing "on the ground". Thanks again.
MartinB
Community Member 2 years agoSurprised you didn't ask about RADAR keys. Can be a godsend, but not enough of them and too often locked or out of service.
Show full commentSurprised you didn't ask about RADAR keys. Can be a godsend, but not enough of them and too often locked or out of service.
Show less of commentHillibee
Community Member 2 years agoMartinB. Agree 100% I've got a Radar key but have had to share the loo with pub furniture including chairs; tables & TV. Not easy on crutches & as well as out of order; having to wait on able bodied who've bought a Radar key online; no...
Show full commentMartinB. Agree 100% I've got a Radar key but have had to share the loo with pub furniture including chairs; tables & TV. Not easy on crutches & as well as out of order; having to wait on able bodied who've bought a Radar key online; no locking door & the state the loo gets left in what should be a godsend often isn't.
Show less of commentcaromawer
Community Member 2 years agoplease think about accessibility for toilets. ive got a 'i need to go' card - but no point hving a csrd if theres no toilets. im on mobility scooter. dont drink or eat any days i want to go out. its adding to isolation. there were no...
Show full commentplease think about accessibility for toilets. ive got a 'i need to go' card - but no point hving a csrd if theres no toilets. im on mobility scooter. dont drink or eat any days i want to go out. its adding to isolation. there were no questions abut accessibility in your survey. im happy for you that you dont even think for a moment about this. please consider that this is stopping many people going out
Show less of commentTheHigg
Community Member 2 years agoNo only more toilets, but also water fountains to refill reusable bottles would cut down on plastic litter.
JayTee
Community Member 2 years agoI would usually feel safer using a toilet in a bar or restaurant.
Show full commentI would usually feel safer using a toilet in a bar or restaurant.
Show less of commentHillibee
Community Member 2 years agoThe need for public toilets & urinals cannot be under estimated. When you live near a London station; bus stop or any route to or from events or areas of bars your doorway becomes an open sewer! Having lived in central London since the 80's...
Show full commentThe need for public toilets & urinals cannot be under estimated. When you live near a London station; bus stop or any route to or from events or areas of bars your doorway becomes an open sewer! Having lived in central London since the 80's it's a problem that has got out of control as now days both sexes will use doorways with impunity! Avoiding streams & puddles of smelly urine on returning home at night is a constant hazard as those that foul the area don't care where they do it!
Show less of commentrose.galvin
Community Member 2 years agoThe location - should be in a reasonably busy area.
Show full commentThe cost - should be free.
Opening times.
Cleanliness.
At the moment I usually use toilets in railway stations and parks.
Often use those in coffee places - but they are often restricted...
The location - should be in a reasonably busy area.
Show less of commentThe cost - should be free.
Opening times.
Cleanliness.
At the moment I usually use toilets in railway stations and parks.
Often use those in coffee places - but they are often restricted to customers and also often closed/ out of order.
turaco
Community Member 2 years agoWhat do I consider? The cost. In a civilised capital the authorities should provide free toilets for tourist and others.
TheHigg
Community Member 2 years agoHousing the homeless should sort that out. We did it during C-19 lockdown so no one can say it can't be done!
Ten10ten
Community Member 2 years agoAgree. If the local authority can afford it plus staffing.
Zeeshm
Community Member 2 years agoHow desperate the kids are for the toilet.
How filthy the toilet is
How many junkies and homeless people live in or nearby the toilet.
Show full commentHow desperate the kids are for the toilet.
How filthy the toilet is
How many junkies and homeless people live in or nearby the toilet.
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