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Sunday 22 September 2019 was World Car Free Day. A large area of central London was closed off for free, outdoor activities and many boroughs were organising activities too. Londoners could request a Play Street from their local council, and close their streets for their own community events.

Did you take part in Car Free Day this year, why or why not? What was your experience? And did you apply for a Play Street?

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The discussion ran from 20 June 2019 - 20 September 2019

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I went to this with some friends and their 2-year-old daughter. Attendance felt very low however, probably due to the wet weather and also maybe because it was the first event of its kind, unlike the Freecycle event earlier in the year...

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I went to this with some friends and their 2-year-old daughter. Attendance felt very low however, probably due to the wet weather and also maybe because it was the first event of its kind, unlike the Freecycle event earlier in the year which is now incredibly popular. The feel was similar to the freecycle but more of a 'just have a wander about' and enjoy the closed off streets vibe. Some of the street attractions were the same as at the freecycle I noticed (e.g the BMX exhibition). 

I am all in favour of events like this, giving people a glimpse of what the city can be like without the omnipresent headache and menace of motor vehicles. It was in a relatively small area of the City on a Sunday, when this area is quiet anyway on any normal weekend. The idea that it's stopping people's divine right to drive to Ikea or whatever is just complete nonsense. 

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Did you give any thought to the way that your enjoyment was possible as a result of the less able being excluded?

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Did you give any thought to the way that your enjoyment was possible as a result of the less able being excluded?

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Mike Solomons - we are talking about a single day in a relatively small area of the City, which is traditionally very quiet on a Sunday. The event was very wheelchair friendly and there were bus routes still running through the middle. I...

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Mike Solomons - we are talking about a single day in a relatively small area of the City, which is traditionally very quiet on a Sunday. The event was very wheelchair friendly and there were bus routes still running through the middle. I presume you share similar opinions for events such as the London Marathon, or when they shut Regent Street off for motor racing? How about all the other days of the year when children are unable to run around and play in the streets of the city they live in because of dangerous traffic, that's all fine with you is it? 

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Did I take part ? Well kind of. The local high street was shut, and is easy enough to navigate around on a quiet day, so no major issue with that. I'm hoping provision was made for those less mobile than me, but don't know if it was. It was...

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Did I take part ? Well kind of. The local high street was shut, and is easy enough to navigate around on a quiet day, so no major issue with that. I'm hoping provision was made for those less mobile than me, but don't know if it was. It was pleasant to walk along in the road. Our local street was shut for three hours enabling about 10 middle class kids to muck around in the street for the afternoon, rather than walk to the nearby Park, which wasn't the end of the world but made Sunday afternoon noisy and unrelaxing. I'm pretty sure nearly all the middle class children's parents have fossil fuelled cars parked in the street.

I'd love there to be serious action to address climate change and the impact it has on all life. I'm prepared to give up things and change the way I live to be part of that. But tokenistic gestures like car free days seem to me to let everyone off the hook. Cars are not the problem themselves...they are not sneakily plotting to exterminate life and the way life is organised makes using them desirable for many and essential for quite a few as there is often no practicable alternative. Humans are the ones doing that (implementing extinction) and it needs serious changes to priorities to address that. The first step should be to phase out this nation's vast expenditure on warfare and arms (4th largest in the world I think), for our own and other's military forces. Until that kind of change is being seriously considered, car free days are just pissing in the wind. 

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Hi everyone

Thanks for all your comments in this discussion.

Car Free Day was yesterday. Did you take part this year?  Why or why not?  Did you attend the event in Central London or did you stay in your local area? We'd love to hear your thoughts and experience.

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I'm sorry, I did not attend.  The idea of enjoying myself at the expense of the less able who could not walk and were not allowed to drive is not my idea of fun.

 

You and everyone involved should be deeply ashamed of yourselves.

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I'm sorry, I did not attend.  The idea of enjoying myself at the expense of the less able who could not walk and were not allowed to drive is not my idea of fun.

 

You and everyone involved should be deeply ashamed of yourselves.

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Far from being at the expense of the less able, this benefitted all residents whether they took part or not. 

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Far from being at the expense of the less able, this benefitted all residents whether they took part or not. 

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Will car-free day include pedicabs? It would be beneficial to have them off the streets for a while. 

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Will car-free day include pedicabs? It would be beneficial to have them off the streets for a while. 

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How about also banning the healthy.  Oh, sorry, with cars not allowed that would mean no one.

 

Anything that is as high profile as this which discriminates against the less able is deeply troubling.

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How about also banning the healthy.  Oh, sorry, with cars not allowed that would mean no one.

 

Anything that is as high profile as this which discriminates against the less able is deeply troubling.

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I don't own a car so rather pointless

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I don't own a car so rather pointless

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I don't own a car either - i'm unsure how this makes it pointless.  It made the city cleaner, easier to navigate and maybe even encouraged car owners that the short unnecessary trips they make in the city are easily done by other means.

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I don't own a car either - i'm unsure how this makes it pointless.  It made the city cleaner, easier to navigate and maybe even encouraged car owners that the short unnecessary trips they make in the city are easily done by other means.

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Yes I will take part great idea!

 

 

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Yes I will take part great idea!

 

 

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Have a thought to the less able who are unable to attend so you can have fun.

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Have a thought to the less able who are unable to attend so you can have fun.

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No. I don't drive anyhow...no point in London. And as it's a Sunday that day is booked....and I tend to use the tube.

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No. I don't drive anyhow...no point in London. And as it's a Sunday that day is booked....and I tend to use the tube.

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London should learn from Amsterdam, 1000s of cyclists and minimum traffic and good public transport.

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London should learn from Amsterdam, 1000s of cyclists and minimum traffic and good public transport.

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Interesting idea

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Interesting idea

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Great - if you don't mind discriminating against the less able.

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Great - if you don't mind discriminating against the less able.

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Another reply to boring Terry Vaughan - YOU have not answered MY questions - as to how the people listed in my previous comment will "get about" on this silly car-free day -- nor how the UK economy could survive without cars in city centres...

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Another reply to boring Terry Vaughan - YOU have not answered MY questions - as to how the people listed in my previous comment will "get about" on this silly car-free day -- nor how the UK economy could survive without cars in city centres ??    In answer to your challenge for "better ideas", a long-term solution is for the UK to cease handing out £14b every year overseas to corrupt governments and futile projects and spend those funds on construction at home including massive improvements to road junctions, building tunnels and overhead tracks for cyclists and electric scooters -- leaving the roads free and wide for motorists, by then in electric vehicles, to "get about" making the country prosperous.

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Graeme, you are so keen to make your strange attacks on straw men that you miss the point. You said you want a day without bikes and buses, believing that motor traffic would flow better. I’m sorry to bore you with reality, but don't you...

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Graeme, you are so keen to make your strange attacks on straw men that you miss the point. You said you want a day without bikes and buses, believing that motor traffic would flow better. I’m sorry to bore you with reality, but don't you think that many bike riders and bus passengers would either stay at home or drive instead? There would be massive congestion and disruption, neither of which would make the country more prosperous.

You are right that more investment to separate drivers from other traffic is needed, though your tunnels and overhead tracks for cycling would be impractical and of very little use. And even if we had free flowing electric vehicle traffic, it would not help reduce all those problems I listed.

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Answer to Terry Vaughan - And how do you think that people who rely on cars -- like the old, the ill, the disabled, mothers with babies, salespersons with heavy samples, sportsmen and sportswomen with heavy equipment, shoppers, transitters...

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Answer to Terry Vaughan - And how do you think that people who rely on cars -- like the old, the ill, the disabled, mothers with babies, salespersons with heavy samples, sportsmen and sportswomen with heavy equipment, shoppers, transitters with luggage, craftsmen and craftswomen with their tools --  will "get about" on this silly "car-free" day that achieves precisely nothing ?    Your next move will be to ban cars altogether in the countryside and, while you are at it, make all car-driving illegal without a permit -- so you can then sit back and happily watch the UK economy collapse -- which presumably is what you want.

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Graeme, you haven’t answered my question.

For just a few hours on a few streets, anyone who wishes (including at least some of the people you are concerned about) will be able to cycle without fear of motor traffic. At present, few are...

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Graeme, you haven’t answered my question.

For just a few hours on a few streets, anyone who wishes (including at least some of the people you are concerned about) will be able to cycle without fear of motor traffic. At present, few are willing to do that, and we all pay a heavy price. It will allow pedestrians to enjoy the city environment. It will show everyone how much better the city could be with less motor traffic. That will make them more open to change.

We need to modernise London. How else can we tackle the problems that motor traffic brings, including poor air quality, climate instability, congestion, noise pollution, traffic accidents, poor health due to inactivity, obesity, the ugliness of streets choked by excessive motor traffic and the lack of freedom for children? I think those problems justify action. If you do too, have you got any better ideas? They might be more useful than your silly straw man arguments.

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Agree 100%

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This is good, but doesn't go far enough.

Every Sunday should be a car-free day.

Also, the whole of Soho should be private-car free.

Also the congestion charge should be doubled and the money invested in public transport.

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This is good, but doesn't go far enough.

Every Sunday should be a car-free day.

Also, the whole of Soho should be private-car free.

Also the congestion charge should be doubled and the money invested in public transport.

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You're very selfish.  Why should fit and health people be allowed to benefit at the cost of the less able?

 

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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You're very selfish.  Why should fit and health people be allowed to benefit at the cost of the less able?

 

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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I think we should have a NO snowflake NO do-gooder day and get rid of these leftwing fools that can't see our great city melting as they sip lattes in Crouch end 

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I think we should have a NO snowflake NO do-gooder day and get rid of these leftwing fools that can't see our great city melting as they sip lattes in Crouch end 

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I have looked at many of the messages here and their responses.

I have to say that this closing of London,again is nothing short of embarrassing.

As somebody that lives in south London and currently works in north London every weekend I...

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I have looked at many of the messages here and their responses.

I have to say that this closing of London,again is nothing short of embarrassing.

As somebody that lives in south London and currently works in north London every weekend I need to cross our great city, while our middle class right on 9-5 suburbanites love to have a jolly-up and street party the rest of us have to work to pay the rent and put food on the table.

It is time to stop closing London, it is a major inconvenience, costs money to the city and individuals, and does nothing for the environment, all the vehicle that cannot pass through the roads closed will be sitting in traffic along the outer roads that remain open pumping out much more pollutants per mile than moving vehicles.

it is simple stupidity to assume everybody can walk or cycle for the day or catch public transport, it shows the level and lack of understanding of those that reside outside of the inner circle of friends that these people promoting and supporting such events have.

You may assume from this that my support for such scheme is limited and that I may not be joining in, just keep on paying my taxes and rfl and congestion charges and exorbitant parking and fuel charges along with any other levies that our fair city may wish to impose to fund the well off possibly well intentioned morons that believe they are helping me and improving my life

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Well done, you have my support!

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Well done, you have my support!

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No, I will not be taking part in yet another event that prevents ordinary Londoners travelling around their city. Many of us have had enough of road closures to indulge cycling fanatics and various sports events that should be held in...

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No, I will not be taking part in yet another event that prevents ordinary Londoners travelling around their city. Many of us have had enough of road closures to indulge cycling fanatics and various sports events that should be held in parks rather than on public roads. Cyclists pay no road tax but many seem to think they have a divine right to inconvenience motorists but also pedestrians by riding on pavements. What about the elderly and disabled who rely on cars? Enough of this nonsense, please! 

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Sorry, Redwayk but there is no such thing at 'road tax'.  

Roads are paid for via general taxation in most cases and council tax in others.  So cyclists pay for roads as much as anyone else.  Vehicle Excise Duty that is often commonly...

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Sorry, Redwayk but there is no such thing at 'road tax'.  

Roads are paid for via general taxation in most cases and council tax in others.  So cyclists pay for roads as much as anyone else.  Vehicle Excise Duty that is often commonly referred to as 'road tax' does not pay for the roads, it's a tax on pollution, and vehicles are taxed according to their emissions. Cycles are zero emissions so they don't pay, along with other categories of non-polluting vehicles  - many car drivers also don't pay.  

To add to this, over 90% of cyclists are also car owners so they actually do pay the tax that you incorrectly think pays for the roads anyway. 

You also say that cyclists inconvenience motorists (ignoring your claim that they believe they they have a 'divine right' to do so) but it's the motorists who cause congestion and make the city difficult to travel around, rather than the cyclists. All polluting vehicles inconvenience all of the residents of the city, making us breathe in high levels of toxic air. It's also motor vehicles that are responsible for the unacceptable levels of injury and death occurring on the roads daily.

My disabled and elderly neighbours welcome the one or two car-free days a year that you deem to be an inconvenience on their behalf. 

Cyclists, motorists and pedestrians are all 'ordinary' Londoners who travel around the city - most people fall into more than one of those categories.  

I apologise if you were just trolling or belong to some car pressure group and your comments were meant to stir things up, but I think it's better not to let such comments go unchallenged.

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I completely agree with sonicspanner’s reply in that such comments should not be left unchallenged (for better use of the word). Cyclists do not all enjoy huffing and puffing behind fumes, significantly being left vulnerable on the road to...

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I completely agree with sonicspanner’s reply in that such comments should not be left unchallenged (for better use of the word). Cyclists do not all enjoy huffing and puffing behind fumes, significantly being left vulnerable on the road to motorists much like yourself, spending more time, energy and arriving to their destinations in a pool of sweat. They don’t do this to ride on a high horse. They are ordinary people trying to contribute in whatever little way they can, like a minuscule drop to this ocean of unchecked selfish existence that has gotten us here. Hearing such comments like your’s is really disheartening, especially when someone is already down and anxious about the state of this beautiful planet which has given you more than you can ever repay. Comments like your’s makes one really think what is the point when the thought that we are sharing this space with our own fellow neighbours/members of the public who think like you. 

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I am strongly in favour of a bicycle-free day in London, when car-drivers can go about their business using the silly cycle lanes - without being snarled up and thus emitting unnecessary carbon dioxide fumes that bring forward the effect of...

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I am strongly in favour of a bicycle-free day in London, when car-drivers can go about their business using the silly cycle lanes - without being snarled up and thus emitting unnecessary carbon dioxide fumes that bring forward the effect of climate change.   At the same time. the dreadful buses emitting diesel fumes can be banned, thus allowing more car-drivers with their low emissions to use the roads and bring prosperity and health to the nation.

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Cycle lanes do not snarl up the poor car-drivers - the sheer volume of other car-drivers do. You make a good point about reducing diesel fumes but your comment about "car-drivers with their low emissions" is pure comedy gold.

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Cycle lanes do not snarl up the poor car-drivers - the sheer volume of other car-drivers do. You make a good point about reducing diesel fumes but your comment about "car-drivers with their low emissions" is pure comedy gold.

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Graeme, a significant fraction of London traffic consists of bike and bus users. When your wonderful day comes and there are no bikes or buses on the roads, how do you think all those people will get about? If you think car drivers won't...

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Graeme, a significant fraction of London traffic consists of bike and bus users. When your wonderful day comes and there are no bikes or buses on the roads, how do you think all those people will get about? If you think car drivers won't get snarled up, good luck.

I'm glad that you don't propose banning walking so that drivers can use the silly pedestrian lanes even more than they do now.

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What a flop! Car free days should be made compulsory with harsh penalties for car use.  Since Uber arrived, traffic has almost doubled.

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What a flop! Car free days should be made compulsory with harsh penalties for car use.  Since Uber arrived, traffic has almost doubled.

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Whilst a great idea, which I've attended in the past, it needs to be more frequent

There's also a car-free day in Greenwich every year.

Pedestrianisation of roads is also a viable option.  They've done that in my borough (Greenwich) in...

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Whilst a great idea, which I've attended in the past, it needs to be more frequent

There's also a car-free day in Greenwich every year.

Pedestrianisation of roads is also a viable option.  They've done that in my borough (Greenwich) in Woolwich and it's a much safer and greener place to shop.

These events should have more activities around the pollution that these roads emit and suggestions on how to cut our carbon emissions.  Most of them seem to an excuse to promote big businesses and not enough on the smaller independent companies who are struggling with footfall and business rates.

 

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Thanks everyone for your comments in this discussion on Car Free Day. The event is taking place in exactly one month’s time (on 22 September) and today, the Mayor has announced more details of all the different activities taking place. All events are free to attend and no tickets are required – you can just turn up on the day and take part.

Transport for London (TfL) have listed all road closures and travel information in and around the main event in central London. This event has been designed to ensure it is inclusive for everyone. Taxi drop-off points and pedal-powered shuttles will help ensure it is accessible for all. British Sign Language interpreters will be signing at some activities and performances and there will also be an opportunity to try out a range of custom-designed bicycles, provided by Bikeworks. Their range includes wheelchair bikes that can accept most non-electric wheelchairs, hand cycles, tricycles and a recumbent rickcycle that can carry up to three passengers, plus a selection of smaller kids’ bikes.

Emergencies will be treated in the usual way, and the safety of residents and visitors will be dealt with as a priority. 

Santander Cycles is offering free hires across London on Car Free Day to encourage people to cycle to and from the event. There will be 11,500 bikes available at more than 750 docking stations across the capital. 

Will you take part in Car Free Day this year, why or why not? Will you attend the event in Central London or your local area? 

Talk London 

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I won't be taking part. I'm sick of the roads that we all use being closed to cars,I'm disabled and need my car but even if I wasn't I'd still use it.

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I won't be taking part. I'm sick of the roads that we all use being closed to cars,I'm disabled and need my car but even if I wasn't I'd still use it.

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No I won’t take part - what a waste of time and a publicity seeking stunt. We have to accept that there will always be a need for private transport - hopefully greener in future but still needed. So instead of banns incorporate cars etc...

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No I won’t take part - what a waste of time and a publicity seeking stunt. We have to accept that there will always be a need for private transport - hopefully greener in future but still needed. So instead of banns incorporate cars etc. more acceptably. We don’t want more “street events” etc. We want convenient cheap green transport facilities including private transport.

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