Cleaning up London’s toxic air
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Sunday 22 September 2019 was World Car Free Day. A large area of central London was closed off for free, outdoor activities and many boroughs were organising activities too. Londoners could request a Play Street from their local council, and close their streets for their own community events.
Did you take part in Car Free Day this year, why or why not? What was your experience? And did you apply for a Play Street?
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The discussion ran from 20 June 2019 - 20 September 2019
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Log into your accountRobert Munster
Community Member 6 years agoFirstly, I won't be taking part as I'm not interested, and in any case it is a Sunday and I devote that to Christian activities.
I have a fair bit of experience of Play Streets as we had one in the road I live in for the first three years...
Show full commentFirstly, I won't be taking part as I'm not interested, and in any case it is a Sunday and I devote that to Christian activities.
I have a fair bit of experience of Play Streets as we had one in the road I live in for the first three years when they were first launched, however people lost interest after the first couple of years and haven't bothered organising one since. I have walked through or past a number of others on my way to/from church and there was never much happening. Maybe a bigger area will be more popular, although as others have pointed out, there are plenty of such areas (notably parks) already available 24/7, so it is hard to see what additional is on offer.
One thing that does concern me greatly is the promotion of the idea that the street is a suitable place to use as a playground. The danger is that children may come back out the next week when there is traffic about and get hit by a vehicle. Streets exist for travel and no other reason, and there are plenty of other more suitable spaces available for playing and other activities.
Show less of commentCareoline
Community Member 6 years agoGood points. But i'd like to see all infernal combustion engines driven permanently underground.
Show full commentGood points. But i'd like to see all infernal combustion engines driven permanently underground.
Show less of commentdeptfordmarmoset
Community Member 6 years agoLove the idea in principle but I have a slight fear that traffic might be worse than ever and drivers more aggravated/aggressive for cyclists coming from outer London. I've experienced dangerous driving (deliberate antagonism by cabs in...
Show full commentLove the idea in principle but I have a slight fear that traffic might be worse than ever and drivers more aggravated/aggressive for cyclists coming from outer London. I've experienced dangerous driving (deliberate antagonism by cabs in particular) on previous London cycling events when traffic has been held up or expected to be patient.
How about a weekly traffic free borough event - rotating the traffic free borough from week to week throughout the year instead? Or as well...?
Show less of commentTouru Featherstone
Community Member 6 years agoGreat idea. I have enough time to plan ahead without using my car and there’s always the train if needs be. I live in Lewisham and the air there is pretty horrendous
Show full commentGreat idea. I have enough time to plan ahead without using my car and there’s always the train if needs be. I live in Lewisham and the air there is pretty horrendous
Show less of commentCareoline
Community Member 6 years agoMe too. The air quality issue is very important, and i think we should start now to think very seriously about reducing the need for incinerators.
Show full commentMe too. The air quality issue is very important, and i think we should start now to think very seriously about reducing the need for incinerators.
Show less of commentRichard Morse
Community Member 6 years agoAlthough it is proposed on a Sunday I still think it is far too idealistic and not thought through. Are we saying that people who rely on a car should simply stay at home that day? Surely it is more important to encourage the use of less...
Show full commentAlthough it is proposed on a Sunday I still think it is far too idealistic and not thought through. Are we saying that people who rely on a car should simply stay at home that day? Surely it is more important to encourage the use of less or non poluting vehicles. London is a 24/7 city and the economic cost of ideas like this are out of proportion to any benefit.
Show less of commentdenis54
Community Member 6 years agoonly our great mayor would think of this,yet another way to waste our money, LONDON is a living city and the people just want to get
about it , how many on the mayors pay roll are wasteing our money, o we could turn the clock back to...
Show full commentonly our great mayor would think of this,yet another way to waste our money, LONDON is a living city and the people just want to get
about it , how many on the mayors pay roll are wasteing our money, o we could turn the clock back to good old days with all the poor confined
to the areas they live in,
drka
Community Member 6 years agoGreat idea. Please close as many streets as possible to cars, but ensure that public trasnport is accessible to all.
Show full commentGreat idea. Please close as many streets as possible to cars, but ensure that public trasnport is accessible to all.
Show less of commentGloria May
Community Member 6 years agoLondon is a city not a funfare. People need transport and plumbers and electricians and other people need to get their equipment to necessary jobs as well as those who are not registered disabled but are somewhat incapacitated to get about...
Show full commentLondon is a city not a funfare. People need transport and plumbers and electricians and other people need to get their equipment to necessary jobs as well as those who are not registered disabled but are somewhat incapacitated to get about. It's just a very silly gimmick.
Careoline
Community Member 6 years agoDo you think so? What if access routes for emergency vehicles could be set up, and together with incentives for businesses to invest in non-polluting vehicles, people might get to like the increased safety, children would not be breathing...
Show full commentDo you think so? What if access routes for emergency vehicles could be set up, and together with incentives for businesses to invest in non-polluting vehicles, people might get to like the increased safety, children would not be breathing in car fumes - maybe we could have more fun fairs.
Show less of commentTalk London
Official Representative 6 years agoHi Gloria and thanks for taking part in this discussion.
We've seen quite a few comments from members about road access during the event in central London. Here's the latest from our policy team:
- There will be no taxis or PHVs allowed in the Reimagine event area. We are encouraging visitors to travel by walking, cycling and public transport wherever possible. Taxi drop-off zones will be available to access the event. Resident access will be maintained.
- East/west vehicle movement along Lower Thames Street will be allowed to minimise wider disruption. Buses will continue to run in both directions over London Bridge and along Bishopsgate.
- We are working with stakeholders on the details of traffic management plans for the day – including restrictions on freight access - and these will be made available well in advance of the event.
- Emergency access for blue light services is part of the traffic management planning process.
We hope this helps.
Talk London
gregmalaya
Community Member 6 years agoWhat's the point in this when the corrupt politicians in "government" will push the Heathrow mega-expansion through regardless of opposition and we'll suffer HUGE and devastating, debilitating noise pollution as well as atmospheric? We...
Show full commentWhat's the point in this when the corrupt politicians in "government" will push the Heathrow mega-expansion through regardless of opposition and we'll suffer HUGE and devastating, debilitating noise pollution as well as atmospheric? We first need to regain democracy in our now third world country, and stop the hidden agendas, greed and corruption.
Show less of commentzszilag
Community Member 6 years agoI love the idea. I would like to see some concerts or live music.
Show full commentI love the idea. I would like to see some concerts or live music.
Show less of commentbeataboutthebush
Community Member 6 years agoAbsolutely agree with Ben Beck and others here, car free days need to allow for essential road users and those with limited mobility. But why Sunday? Why not a weekday? Civilised cities around the world with narrowish streets have been...
Show full commentAbsolutely agree with Ben Beck and others here, car free days need to allow for essential road users and those with limited mobility. But why Sunday? Why not a weekday? Civilised cities around the world with narrowish streets have been limiting traffic for years. London needs to be more ambitious. We need to see change, not just faff about the edges, talk talk talk and no action. I see no enforceable cycle lanes in LBHF, same old gas guzzlers polluting and clogging up our streets, drivers abusing ‘advisory’ cycle paths, parking whenever they fancy with impunity. Police with no powers. Councils with no resources to enforce the rules we do have. Some councils doing nothing for safe and clean streets (shame on RBKC, again). Parking permits £119 pa in LBHF for a piece of public space 2.5 x 5m (yes £119 pa!!) for selfish lumps of metal on Our streets where instead children could play and all people could breath properly and be healthy.
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Community Member 6 years agoAs London will be vehicle free I should love a no noise day in the open spaces, no music, nothing but birdsong in the parks.
Show full commentAs London will be vehicle free I should love a no noise day in the open spaces, no music, nothing but birdsong in the parks.
Show less of commentandypendle
Community Member 6 years agoGreat idea. Once a year though is not enough. We need to support people to move away from polluting car use more permanently
Show full commentGreat idea. Once a year though is not enough. We need to support people to move away from polluting car use more permanently
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Community Member 6 years agogreat idea!
Show full commentgreat idea!
Show less of commentAnonymous - account deleted
Community Member 6 years agoThis should be happening monthly, or even weekly. Maybe every sunday, with provision for blue badge holders and specific exceptions.
Show full commentThis should be happening monthly, or even weekly. Maybe every sunday, with provision for blue badge holders and specific exceptions.
Show less of commentWarren Edwardes
Community Member 6 years agoSo how do I apply for a Play Street in Westminster?
Show full commentSo how do I apply for a Play Street in Westminster?
Show less of commentgmg57
Community Member 6 years agoNot at all in my part I sincerely hope. There are things like parks and playgrounds.
Show full commentNot at all in my part I sincerely hope. There are things like parks and playgrounds.
Show less of commentFluffbee
Community Member 6 years agoThe lunatics are finally taking over London. This whole concept is Bonkers. What if people have a heart attack in the middle of the road... ambulances allowed but not cars? What if people want to move office or house on that day? What if...
Show full commentThe lunatics are finally taking over London. This whole concept is Bonkers. What if people have a heart attack in the middle of the road... ambulances allowed but not cars? What if people want to move office or house on that day? What if people need to deliver something.
This is utter madness and we are being driven to a Dickensian totalitarian state. I don’t want my parents dying in the back of an ambulance in traffic as the roads are shut nor do I want anyone else to.
Show less of commentbeataboutthebush
Community Member 6 years agoOf course emergency vehicles would be allowed, you’d more likely get stuck in usual traffic than a car free day. Remember average speed in London’s traffic is 9mph.
Show full commentOf course emergency vehicles would be allowed, you’d more likely get stuck in usual traffic than a car free day. Remember average speed in London’s traffic is 9mph.
Show less of commentAnonymous - account deleted
Community Member 6 years agoYou can't seriously have thought that ambulances would be banned so let's ignore that part.
How bad would pollution have to get before you think some significantly action should be taken?
Remembering that the pollution levels in London...
Show full commentYou can't seriously have thought that ambulances would be banned so let's ignore that part.
How bad would pollution have to get before you think some significantly action should be taken?
Remembering that the pollution levels in London are already illegal, meaning bad enough to hasten the deaths of people with breathing difficulties and increase the risk of lung cancer in otherwise healthy people.
Show less of commentEnigmaG
Community Member 6 years agoStop these symblic nonsense, people don't drive in central London for no good reason.
Show full commentStop these symblic nonsense, people don't drive in central London for no good reason.
Show less of commentEnigmaG
Community Member 6 years agoStop these symblic nonsense, people dont drive in central London for no good reason
Show full commentStop these symblic nonsense, people dont drive in central London for no good reason
Show less of commentMM
Community Member 6 years agoI think it is a great idea! Only electric cars or hydrogen run cars would be allowed into central London, and the outskirts can close off roads where events are happening and leave vital roads open for whatever emergency may arise.
I am...
Show full commentI think it is a great idea! Only electric cars or hydrogen run cars would be allowed into central London, and the outskirts can close off roads where events are happening and leave vital roads open for whatever emergency may arise.
I am all for banning every HGV from the centre of London as they are too big, too polluting, and too dangerous to come into sometimes smaller streets of central London. If deliveries will have to be made they will have to be done at night time, and in smaller vans NOT large lorries.
Eventually it would be great to have no fossil fuel burning vehicle allowed in central London. The alternatives exist: electric, hydrogen, even trains can now run on hydrogen, bikes and walking. We will have to learn to change our ways to make this happen. An initiative like a car free day will help us get there.
Show less of commentgmg57
Community Member 6 years agoDeliveries at night. Don’t think us residents will be thanking you for that.
Show full commentDeliveries at night. Don’t think us residents will be thanking you for that.
Show less of commentAnonymous - account deleted
Community Member 6 years agoVery happy to see this happening, we need to expand our imaginations as to how living in a city could and should be like.
Show full commentVery happy to see this happening, we need to expand our imaginations as to how living in a city could and should be like.
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