Social prescribing
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107 Londoners have responded | 30/01/2019 - 30/04/2019

Social prescribing is about helping people to find ways to improve their health and wellbeing by linking them up with what is going on in their local area. It enables people to access services that meet their wider emotional, physical and social needs.
Together with the Healthy London Partnership, NHS England and the Social Prescribing Network for London and following engagement, City Hall has developed a draft social prescribing vision for London.
We'd love to hear what you think.
Have you heard of social prescribing before and what do you think about it? Do you know if it’s available in your area? Would you use a social prescribing service if it were offered to you?
The discussion ran from 30 January 2019 - 30 April 2019
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Community Member 6 years agoI work with Incredible Edible Lambeth and we are right behind social prescribing; we know that getting out and about and growing food is not only good for your physical health but also your mental health. Time spent in Nature is one of the...
Show full commentI work with Incredible Edible Lambeth and we are right behind social prescribing; we know that getting out and about and growing food is not only good for your physical health but also your mental health. Time spent in Nature is one of the best things we can all do for our health. We have developed walking trails to visit green spaces in Lambeth. Check us out at www.incredibleediblelambeth.org
Show less of commentHelen Chatterjee
Community Member 6 years agoWe have been researching the impact of Museums on Prescription for the past few years and found that museum programmes improved
psychological wellbeing, increased self-esteem, optimism and hope, and reduced social isolation.
More...
Show full commentWe have been researching the impact of Museums on Prescription for the past few years and found that museum programmes improved
psychological wellbeing, increased self-esteem, optimism and hope, and reduced social isolation.
More information is available here:
Show less of commenthttps://culturehealthresearch.wordpress.com/museums-on-prescription/
https://culturehealthresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/mopguide.pdf
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Official Representative 6 years agoThanks everyone for all your comments and suggestions.
Some of you have aked where you could find more information. You can find out more about what social prescribing services are available in your area from your local voluntary sector service council, your local council webpages (their directories of services).
Your local GP surgery may also be able to direct you to a nearby service if they do not provide one themselves.
Would you welcome being signposted to social activities in your local area by your doctor, health profesional or others? Why or why not?
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steve2gibbons
Community Member 6 years agoThis idea is new to me, so I am plainly not aware of it being available in Wandsworth. Clearly some people who approach GP's have problems or causes for their illness that are not wholly or partly medical. Having a way to address those non...
Show full commentThis idea is new to me, so I am plainly not aware of it being available in Wandsworth. Clearly some people who approach GP's have problems or causes for their illness that are not wholly or partly medical. Having a way to address those non-medical causes or contributory factors would be nice. Any such service needs to know where the boundaries of it's responsibility lie, and that will be a challenge. High housing costs leading to debt and stress and anxiety requires lower cost housing, sharing costs with an additional tenant or a better pay, none of which are medical or close to it. Services like Citizen's Advice Bureau once provided one kind of support, but their funding has been cut. Libraries provide a range information on how to find things out, but there are less of those now. To be more positive, guidance and support on diet and exercise and where to find support to improve those are closer to the remit of general practice.
Show less of commentSassina
Community Member 6 years agoNever heard if it but agree with previous commentator that it sounds brilliant! How is it funded? And can anyone benefit?
Show full commentNever heard if it but agree with previous commentator that it sounds brilliant! How is it funded? And can anyone benefit?
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Official Representative 6 years agoHi Sassina and thanks for sharing your views.
The majority of activities that the social prescriber(or link-worker) refers someone to are free to them to attend, for example exercise or gardening clubs. Others may make a small charge (for materials) for example. Many social prescribing projects are funded by the NHS, local authority or charities to provide services.
What sort of health, wellbeing and social conditions and issues do you think might benefit the most from a social prescribing aproach?
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emspaws
Community Member 6 years agothink ok idea
but concept was developed to reduce hospital admissions so placing it in primary care isnt going to do this
surely this is just adding to GPs workload?
totally agree with addressing underlying issues for people
recommend...
Show full commentthink ok idea
but concept was developed to reduce hospital admissions so placing it in primary care isnt going to do this
surely this is just adding to GPs workload?
totally agree with addressing underlying issues for people
recommend much better use of older people to help connect communities eg voluntereing with kids etc
how much will it cost?
will it widen inequalities wont those with greatest health literacy eg the well off benefit more than those in most deprived
Show less of commentPG88
Community Member 6 years agoI think its a great idea and much of the work I do could be categorised as social prescribing as I work on free community workshops that are based on gardening, art or considering the environment and public realm. In my experience there...
Show full commentI think its a great idea and much of the work I do could be categorised as social prescribing as I work on free community workshops that are based on gardening, art or considering the environment and public realm. In my experience there are a lot of people who would like this type of activity to happen on an informal, drop-in basis.
My questions would be:
Where does someone get the information about projects from?
How can someone offering free workshops promote them to people looking to get involved?
Could a network of people work together to start their own, small community groups based around green spaces etc.
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Official Representative 6 years agoThanks everyone for joining in this discussion. Some of you have mentioned the voluntary sector and asked how they are involved.
The voluntary sector play a key role in developing and delivering social prescribing services. Many of the services provided are not new, voluntary sector organisations have been providing them successfully for years. What is new is that there is growing evidence that social prescribing can significantly improve people’s health and well-being, particularly those with complex and long term needs, particularly given the co-ordination role that link-workers play to join different services together for people.
One of the Mayor’s key ambitions for the Social Prescribing Vision is to ensure that the voluntary sector are seen as an equal partner in the design and delivery of social prescribing in London and are funded accordingly.
What sort of health, wellbeing and social conditions and issues do you think might benefit the most from a social prescribing approach?
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Anonymous - account deleted
Community Member 6 years agoIt's not the prescribing that brings the benefit, that is only the first step. Regular, purposful and prolonged particpation in the activity being prescribed has to happen for benefits to be realised.
I'am a Director of a charity offering...
Show full commentIt's not the prescribing that brings the benefit, that is only the first step. Regular, purposful and prolonged particpation in the activity being prescribed has to happen for benefits to be realised.
I'am a Director of a charity offering these services. We have evidence that there is no standardised approach from the statutory sector in social prescribing and they certainly don't view us as equal partners. The biggest barrier at the moment is a lack of funding. We are being asked to provide increased services with no additional monies.
Anonymous - account deleted
Community Member 6 years agoI have not heard of Social Prescribing before. I think it sounds like a good idea for people who are new to the London area, have just retired or for some other reason are short of things to do. Personally I have no need to use this type of...
Show full commentI have not heard of Social Prescribing before. I think it sounds like a good idea for people who are new to the London area, have just retired or for some other reason are short of things to do. Personally I have no need to use this type of service because I am involved in many things since I retired. These include my local church, a drama society, the National Women's Register, the Friday London Walkers, a book group and a local residents' association. I also like to keep in contact with old friends and family.
Show less of commentLondon GP
Community Member 6 years agoSuperficially this sounds attractive - but it is nothing new. GPs, nurses, senior reception staff, librarians, council workers... all have been signposting people to local activites and resources for years. Clealry this is a sensible...
Show full commentSuperficially this sounds attractive - but it is nothing new. GPs, nurses, senior reception staff, librarians, council workers... all have been signposting people to local activites and resources for years. Clealry this is a sensible thing to do. I However, I see two problems with the current initiative.
One is that by calling it "prescribing" it implies there is some right to have these activities or services, possibly funded by the NHS. This is not the case: it is simply signposting to activities or services which are provided by Councils and the voluntary sector. These bodies will apply their own restictions and funding requirements.
Secondly, the vicious cuts to Council funding (which often also supports local charities and voluntary sector) means that there are ever fewer such activities to which we can signpost people.
As a GP, I am seeing ever more people who are not quite old/sick/poor enough to qualify for support. They know as well as I do that what they need is decent housing/work/benefits and not a prescription for antidepressant; but these problems are not going to fixed by attending a community singing group either. I fear that "social prescrubig" is little more than a glossy distraction.
Show less of commentLondon GP
Community Member 6 years agoSuperficially this sounds attractive - but it is nothing new. GPs, nurses, senior reception staff, librarians, council workers... all have been signposting people to local activites and resources for years. Clealry this is a sensible...
Show full commentSuperficially this sounds attractive - but it is nothing new. GPs, nurses, senior reception staff, librarians, council workers... all have been signposting people to local activites and resources for years. Clealry this is a sensible thing to do. I However, I see two problems with the current initiative.
One is that by calling it "prescribing" it implies there is some right to have these activities or services, possibly funded by the NHS. This is not the case: it is simply signposting to activities or services which are provided by Councils and the voluntary sector. These bodies will apply their own restictions and funding requirements.
Secondly, the vicious cuts to Council funding (which often also supports local charities and voluntary sector) means that there are ever fewer such activities to which we can signpost people.
As a GP, I am seeing ever more people who are not quite old/sick/poor enough to qualify for support. They know as well as I do that what they need is decent housing/work/benefits and not a prescription for antidepressant; but these problems are not going to fixed by attending a community singing group either. I fear that "social prescrubig" is little more than a glossy distraction.
Show less of commentkum yoke choong
Community Member 6 years agoI have not heard of this social prescribing. I am in Brent area and would like to know more information. Currently I am basically helping my two disabled friends and would like to get a better life for them. Where can I get in contact with...
Show full commentI have not heard of this social prescribing. I am in Brent area and would like to know more information. Currently I am basically helping my two disabled friends and would like to get a better life for them. Where can I get in contact with the right people.
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Official Representative 6 years agoYou can find out more about what social prescribing services are available in your area from your local voluntary sector service council, your local council webpages (their directories of services).
Your local GP surgery may also be able to direct you to a nearby service if they do not provide one themselves.
What kind of activities are you looking for?
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Anonymous - account deleted
Community Member 6 years agoSocial prescribing would be a good idea, if it had not coincided with the Government's austerity measures. Local community groups have been decimated by cuts in LA funding. There are few local voluntary organisations left.
Show full commentSocial prescribing would be a good idea, if it had not coincided with the Government's austerity measures. Local community groups have been decimated by cuts in LA funding. There are few local voluntary organisations left.
Show less of commentJAXM
Community Member 6 years agoI hadn't heard of it before but think its a very good idea. My main concerns would be who will fund the advisors?
Show full commentI know there are a lot of my activities in my area but no central location to find out about them.
I hadn't heard of it before but think its a very good idea. My main concerns would be who will fund the advisors?
Show less of commentI know there are a lot of my activities in my area but no central location to find out about them.
Susan Cartwright
Community Member 6 years agoI am delighted with this idea. So many people, especially in London, are lonely and don't know what is out there or who to contact. I remember years ago my GP prescribing subsidised visita to the gym at Ironmonger Baths (for a...
Show full commentI am delighted with this idea. So many people, especially in London, are lonely and don't know what is out there or who to contact. I remember years ago my GP prescribing subsidised visita to the gym at Ironmonger Baths (for a physical medical condition). She was obviously ahead of her time and now I'm sure would be very willing to participate in community prescriptions. I am a little concerned about the funding though, it's ok to say groups can be set up but someone has to initiate it (a local development worker?) and they should be paid but out of what budget? Hopefully not by the NHS as their funds are dwindling so fast.
Show less of commentnumbalum
Community Member 6 years agoThere is a lot of good in this idea. It's very easy to feel isolated in London, especially if one is new. Loneliness, stress, and depression are social problems with medical consequences. Opportunities for people to experience community are...
Show full commentThere is a lot of good in this idea. It's very easy to feel isolated in London, especially if one is new. Loneliness, stress, and depression are social problems with medical consequences. Opportunities for people to experience community are really important.
Charities that participate in this endeavor should revisit their own volunteering guidelines and how they treat potential volunteers. If someone takes the time to contact an organization, the organization should acknowledge that person within a few days. Having extensive NGO experience in the US, I was surprised by how many charities have trainings that may only occur a couple of times in a year or such exacting criteria for volunteering that many are turned away. I can imagine someone who is lonely and tries to take a positive step like volunteering would feel rejected and demoralized if the charity doesn't even acknowledge them.
I'm glad that the idea of social prescriptions is being put forward. It has a great deal of potential.
Anonymous - account deleted
Community Member 6 years agoI hadn't heard of this but I think it's a great idea. Co-incidentally, I'm reading a book called 'Being Mortal' by Atul Gawande which is a very nice book about how people can prepare themselves for big changes in life they didn't expect. I...
Show full commentI hadn't heard of this but I think it's a great idea. Co-incidentally, I'm reading a book called 'Being Mortal' by Atul Gawande which is a very nice book about how people can prepare themselves for big changes in life they didn't expect. I'd recommend it.
Show less of commentTalk London
Official Representative 6 years agoHi Anewland and thanks for sharing.
What sort of health, wellbeing and social conditions and issues do you think might benefit the most from a social prescribing approach?
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Lanka
Community Member 6 years agoyes, I have heard about it.
Great idea to get residents active, connected and involved in local groups and activities. This should be expanded to cover all areas.
Show full commentyes, I have heard about it.
Great idea to get residents active, connected and involved in local groups and activities. This should be expanded to cover all areas.
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Official Representative 6 years agoThanks everyone for sharing your views in this discussion.
What do you think are the main benefits of a social prescribing approach, for people? What might be the benefits for the NHS?
And what do you think are the main drawbacks of social prescribing, firstly for people and secondly for the NHS?
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livehere
Community Member 6 years agoThe NHS should not be funding social prescribing. The drawbacks for people are that in practice, far too often they will be social prescribed something when a referral for tests or medical treatment would have been the right way to go...
Show full commentThe NHS should not be funding social prescribing. The drawbacks for people are that in practice, far too often they will be social prescribed something when a referral for tests or medical treatment would have been the right way to go. Illness may be left untreated until it is too late, or until it has become a chronic permanent condition. Also, it is clear already that those contracted to provide the socially prescribed activity may be just milking the tax-paid system rather than properly providing useful preventative activities for an effective period. Also, It is not always enough to make people feel good. This can be misleading, and it could result in genuine illness not being recognised. There are a lot of providers of activities and treatments of which the effectiveness is very dubious indeed, and that includes most counselling. Counselling can help in the short term, but is not a treatment. The benefits for the NHS, but ONLY if the NHS does not fund it, come with the preventative effects of people keeping in good health. The drawbacks to the NHS are those of funding it, and the costs of the inevitable late diagnoses of problems that needed medical treatment.
Show less of commentLady Iveta
Community Member 6 years agoAll woul be great if Mayor would read our thouts not only said what he woun't.
He did not listened when we ask not to ingaded low qualification specialist from abroun in NHS and Surgeries particularly.
He did not listened about Christmas...
Show full commentAll woul be great if Mayor would read our thouts not only said what he woun't.
He did not listened when we ask not to ingaded low qualification specialist from abroun in NHS and Surgeries particularly.
He did not listened about Christmas Eve and transport on Christmas Day that was been cuted off, too soon before midnaight not after 2 am as been asked.
new Years Eve was terible because he did not wan't to published restricted areas, tickets wasn't awaylable by gates as promised, crew did not now directions shortest routes was'n been calculated.
I did said and I will repet please can you listen us, Mayor Sigid Khan?