Safe neighbourhoods
How can local communities work together with the police to make neighbourhoods safer?
How can local communities work together with the police to make neighbourhoods safer? How would you like to hear from the police? What kind of activities would you like to see in your neighbourhood?
The discussion ran from 14 September 2018 - 07 November 2018
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Community Member 6 years agoWe are already arranging for residents - young and old - to come out of their houses and socialise. We invite police to meetings and lately I've seen horse-riding police amongst our community. We are working to build a better community so...
Show full commentWe are already arranging for residents - young and old - to come out of their houses and socialise. We invite police to meetings and lately I've seen horse-riding police amongst our community. We are working to build a better community so that the young people and those who might be attracted to negative behaviour are encouraged to be part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
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Community Member 6 years agoI don't feel I need to have a regular chat with the police to make my neighbourhood safer. I am happy to let them get on with their job.
Where there are less-urgent issues to report, a quick online means of reporting repeat anti-social...
Show full commentI don't feel I need to have a regular chat with the police to make my neighbourhood safer. I am happy to let them get on with their job.
Where there are less-urgent issues to report, a quick online means of reporting repeat anti-social behaviour, petty crime and drug dealing might help prioritise response times and highlight hotspots (include a location field so people can put the postcode of the event), rather than relying on 101. This could be via a website or an app. If you included a file upload feature, people could submit photos of damage to property, etc.
I agree with a previous commentor that keeping a database of domestic and commercial premises with CCTV/security cameras might be useful in tracing movements relating to a crime, though I imagine there might be legal implications to using this evidence in a court of law.
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Community Member 6 years agoThey have some online reporting via email forms - check on the Met website. Though a lot of the reporting system just goes on for a long time then leads to a page telling you to phone 101. Also during daytimes there is a Met police...
Show full commentThey have some online reporting via email forms - check on the Met website. Though a lot of the reporting system just goes on for a long time then leads to a page telling you to phone 101. Also during daytimes there is a Met police twitter account you can report stuff to (non emergency stuff).
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Community Member 6 years agoMore presence. I cannot remember the last time I saw an Office on foot patrol in my local area. The police presence is more reactive that proactive. I don't blame the SNT there just appear to be a will to resource them appropriately
Show full commentMore presence. I cannot remember the last time I saw an Office on foot patrol in my local area. The police presence is more reactive that proactive. I don't blame the SNT there just appear to be a will to resource them appropriately
Show less of commentrobfenton
Community Member 6 years agoWhy are we depending on the community to police our neighbourhoods. We need more investment into policing and more police in service. That's it - end of story.
Show full commentWhy are we depending on the community to police our neighbourhoods. We need more investment into policing and more police in service. That's it - end of story.
Show less of commentDiane
Community Member 6 years agoHowever, that is not happening so I, for one, (and residents round here - Brixton area) am not prepared to sit back and watch it all fall apart. We will build a better community and encourage others to join in.
Show full commentHowever, that is not happening so I, for one, (and residents round here - Brixton area) am not prepared to sit back and watch it all fall apart. We will build a better community and encourage others to join in.
Show less of commentNigel Brooks
Community Member 6 years ago101 is 'broken' and when I dialled 999 recently to report open drug abuse by a number of young men in a car outside my local park, I was held in a 'your call is important' queue for over fifteen minutes.
By the time the call was answered...
Show full comment101 is 'broken' and when I dialled 999 recently to report open drug abuse by a number of young men in a car outside my local park, I was held in a 'your call is important' queue for over fifteen minutes.
By the time the call was answered and, eventually, there was a response the car with it's drug fulled occupants had fled.
What is the point of trying to report a crime in progress if you cannot get a response?
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Community Member 6 years agoI would like to see patrols on a regular basis. The low level ASB - nitrous oxide use etc is what really hacks people off and dialling 101 is not that effective as by the time they come the perpetrators have moved on. I u detest and that...
Show full commentI would like to see patrols on a regular basis. The low level ASB - nitrous oxide use etc is what really hacks people off and dialling 101 is not that effective as by the time they come the perpetrators have moved on. I u detest and that there are more serious offenders to catch but this is the stuff that when it occurs daily grinds us down.
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Official Representative 6 years agoThanks everyone for joining in this discussion. We’re feeding all your comments to the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC).
Many of you have mentioned you’d like to see more police on the streets. How important is it to you to have your say on how your local area is policed? How would you like to hear from your local police?
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Community Member 6 years agoI'd like to hear the plod plod plod of my local police on the beat.
Show full commentI'd like to hear the plod plod plod of my local police on the beat.
Show less of commentCaro1000
Community Member 6 years agoDefinitely need more police, they do not have the nampower to deal with lesser crime and everyone knows this. Need also to be able to contact them, 101 is a joke, many crimes go unreported because of this. Notice even vehicles pay less...
Show full commentDefinitely need more police, they do not have the nampower to deal with lesser crime and everyone knows this. Need also to be able to contact them, 101 is a joke, many crimes go unreported because of this. Notice even vehicles pay less attention to driving safely, one jumped a red traffic light in front of me yesterday and again some days ago, they are all pretty sure they won't be caught .Need regular meeting in accessible places and with parking, many won't go out at night and with all the online communication, surveys etc a lot of people are precluded from getting communications, especially the elderly. We don't feel secure in our homes any longer and we don't feel safe on the street either, if I was younger I would move out of London it is becoming a really horrible place.
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Community Member 6 years agoThe police appear to react to issues - with often speeding cars rather than build relations with a community - probably the result of misguided cutbacks but would like to understand current policy - worried for the older members of their...
Show full commentThe police appear to react to issues - with often speeding cars rather than build relations with a community - probably the result of misguided cutbacks but would like to understand current policy - worried for the older members of their community who are afraid to go out and street crime especially the mopeds and gang crime
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Community Member 6 years agoI know an elderly, very frail person who says some teenagers tried to push him over for a laugh. This is the sort of thing that could be addressed by police on the beat.
I know an elderly, very frail person who says some teenagers tried to push him over for a laugh. This is the sort of thing that could be addressed by police on the beat.
abrewer
Community Member 6 years agomore visible patrols. Hold community meeting events at times when people can attend (ie not during the daytime, when many of us are at work, then say that low attendance meant nobody was interested!)
Show full commentmore visible patrols. Hold community meeting events at times when people can attend (ie not during the daytime, when many of us are at work, then say that low attendance meant nobody was interested!)
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Community Member 6 years agoYes! And don't complain the only people who attended had grey hair.
Yes! And don't complain the only people who attended had grey hair.
Harry1927
Community Member 6 years agoJust trying to report issues is a joke, you try and use the website, it directs you to use 101 you can’t get through to that for ages, sometimes in excess of 30 minutes, if your lucky enough to actually be able to report the crime, you...
Show full commentJust trying to report issues is a joke, you try and use the website, it directs you to use 101 you can’t get through to that for ages, sometimes in excess of 30 minutes, if your lucky enough to actually be able to report the crime, you rarely get a physical response from the police, if at all, and in 99% of things I’ve reported, I’ve had no feedback or follow up, it’s pointless. I’ve lived in my property almost 6 years in that time I’ve never had any contact with our so called safer neighbourhood team or any neighbourhood watch team despite asking the police to give them my details for them to contact me, nobody has, I don’t even know who they are. The police have insufficient resources to deal with the volume of crime in our communities, and when they do try and prosecute offenders the entire judicial system lets them down, these persistent offenders are not given sentences appropriate to their crimes and are back out in no time to reoffend. Local councils are also to blame, they just don’t have the infrastructure to deal with local issues like ASB and never pursue eviction for repeat offenders. Communication and collaboration between local councils and the police is so poor, leaving us, law abiding citizens to exist in mini ghettos. This government should hang its head in shame.
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Community Member 6 years agoI absolutely agree with everything said by Harry1927 here.
Show full commentI absolutely agree with everything said by Harry1927 here.
Show less of commentLondongirleverytime
Community Member 6 years agoBurglary seems to be a non-crime now in terms of police resources being available to act promptly. Feeling insecure in your own home is not helpful to a "safer neighbourhood"
Show full commentBurglary seems to be a non-crime now in terms of police resources being available to act promptly. Feeling insecure in your own home is not helpful to a "safer neighbourhood"
Show less of commentMaisyMouse
Community Member 6 years agoI find the monthly (e-mail) newsletters from my local force interesting and useful and I also like the OWL messaging service used to appeal for witnesses or information. Digital solutions are cost effective and save time. Would it not be...
Show full commentI find the monthly (e-mail) newsletters from my local force interesting and useful and I also like the OWL messaging service used to appeal for witnesses or information. Digital solutions are cost effective and save time. Would it not be an idea to give Local Authority Enforcement Officers more clout so that they can deal with 'low level' crime or at least offer the police more support? Like others, I haven't seen a policeman on foot in my area ever. They used to fly through on bicycles, but I haven't seen them in years. Also, we have had a few major incidents which resulted in the road being closed, armed police and dogs etc, but none of us have any idea what they were doing. At one point we all had to wait by police tape and be escorted to and from our front doors for 4 days - I have no idea what that was about.
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Community Member 6 years agoI would be very unhappy to have local council officers, unqualified and with little training, doing any more law enforcement than they currently do in relation to antisocial behaviour. Already Westminster CC is using LA city inspectors for...
Show full commentI would be very unhappy to have local council officers, unqualified and with little training, doing any more law enforcement than they currently do in relation to antisocial behaviour. Already Westminster CC is using LA city inspectors for environmental health noise work, that they are not qualified for. Enough is enough.
Show less of commentMaisyMouse
Community Member 6 years agoI work for a local authority and disagree that Enforcement Officers are unqualified. They are definitely under-valued and lack powers to do more, but they could be very effective in tackling lower level crime because they know their...
Show full commentI work for a local authority and disagree that Enforcement Officers are unqualified. They are definitely under-valued and lack powers to do more, but they could be very effective in tackling lower level crime because they know their neighbourhoods and communities - obviously I can't speak for every borough, but where I work it would be so much more effective if they had more clout.
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Community Member 6 years agoI think I accidentally reported something to moderators here. I'm not sure what. Apologies. The screen keeps jumping around on my phone.
I think I accidentally reported something to moderators here. I'm not sure what. Apologies. The screen keeps jumping around on my phone.
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Community Member 6 years agoLaws are laws and should be enforced. Not like Notting Hill carnival. We are not looking for drugs we are looking for knives. So drug are not illegal today, but they will be tomorrow. People should have been arrested for breaking the law...
Show full commentLaws are laws and should be enforced. Not like Notting Hill carnival. We are not looking for drugs we are looking for knives. So drug are not illegal today, but they will be tomorrow. People should have been arrested for breaking the law, whether it be drugs or knives
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Community Member 6 years agoThere should be more police on the streets to prevent and deal with crime. They should be a visual deterrent as well as force to solve crimes not a token gesture while the country falls in to anarchy. They need to earn people’s respect and...
Show full commentThere should be more police on the streets to prevent and deal with crime. They should be a visual deterrent as well as force to solve crimes not a token gesture while the country falls in to anarchy. They need to earn people’s respect and trust because of the lack of results and response. The police had my respect when I was growing up but that was when they were actually real police officers on the street not these plastic coppers. We need to invest in our police force and stop wasting our money on fringe projects. We need to look after the masses and if there is money left over then diversify.
Show less of commentChris Ashby
Community Member 6 years agoI've just completed a safer neighbourhood survey and one of the sets of questions asked about my neighbourhood which was determined as within fifteen minutes walk. So one of the questions asked if everyone in the neighbourhood had the same...
Show full commentI've just completed a safer neighbourhood survey and one of the sets of questions asked about my neighbourhood which was determined as within fifteen minutes walk. So one of the questions asked if everyone in the neighbourhood had the same values. I can't possibly know everyones values in the set neighbourhood. So it is too large an area for any answers to be meaningful. A smaller area should be allowed.
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Community Member 6 years agoI thought it was a dumb question. I guess it means are there any Muslims not sharing "British values"? I don't see how that's relevant to fighting violent crime, though.
I thought it was a dumb question. I guess it means are there any Muslims not sharing "British values"? I don't see how that's relevant to fighting violent crime, though.
Caro1000
Community Member 6 years agoThought it a weird question also, how do I know?
Show full commentThought it a weird question also, how do I know?
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Community Member 6 years agoA question that should not be asked. It is irrelevant to upholding the law, and is none of their concern, and in itself smacks of racialist thinking.
Show full commentA question that should not be asked. It is irrelevant to upholding the law, and is none of their concern, and in itself smacks of racialist thinking.
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Community Member 6 years agoOur local police officers in the SNP actually laugh as they stand in their office and watch the phone ring whilst ignoring it so they can carry on doing nothing all day.
Show full commentOur local police officers in the SNP actually laugh as they stand in their office and watch the phone ring whilst ignoring it so they can carry on doing nothing all day.
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Community Member 6 years agoI think the focus on neighbourhoods and local areas is a distraction. London is a very well connected city and I have friends & family all over the place, therefore I want to be safe wherever I go. Knowing what the police are up to on my...
Show full commentI think the focus on neighbourhoods and local areas is a distraction. London is a very well connected city and I have friends & family all over the place, therefore I want to be safe wherever I go. Knowing what the police are up to on my doorstep is no use if I spend most evenings socialising outside of my borough.
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Community Member 6 years agoExactly. I don't need to be told again and again what the police are going to do, I just want them to be out visibly doing it. And if it means the Inspectors and Chief Inspectors stop talking to the media and get out on the beat then all...
Show full commentExactly. I don't need to be told again and again what the police are going to do, I just want them to be out visibly doing it. And if it means the Inspectors and Chief Inspectors stop talking to the media and get out on the beat then all the better.
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Community Member 6 years agoYou should be able to get local info on the Met website by checking on the areas you are going to - put in the post code.
Where I am it is hard to report, for example, suspicious lurking people, except by calling 999. There should be...
Show full commentYou should be able to get local info on the Met website by checking on the areas you are going to - put in the post code.
Where I am it is hard to report, for example, suspicious lurking people, except by calling 999. There should be better communication for people wanting to report local antisocial behaviour and minor stuff when it is happening, without dialling 999.
But yes, the coverage should be consistently good whereever we go.
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Community Member 6 years agoTo solve crimes requires pro active policing not responsive policing , if wasting resources by having high up officers chatting rubbish at community meeting is modern policing no wonder were in such a bad state
Show full commentTo solve crimes requires pro active policing not responsive policing , if wasting resources by having high up officers chatting rubbish at community meeting is modern policing no wonder were in such a bad state
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Community Member 6 years agoAgreed.
Agreed.
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Community Member 6 years agoI have been attempting to contact our liaison officer in oredr to restart our Neighbourhoodwatch scheme for months. No response and so we continue without one. We have litterin, dumping of household furniture in the streets, car crime which...
Show full commentI have been attempting to contact our liaison officer in oredr to restart our Neighbourhoodwatch scheme for months. No response and so we continue without one. We have litterin, dumping of household furniture in the streets, car crime which iinvestigated but simply given a number for insurance purposes and I cant remember when I last saw a loiceofficer actually patrolling on foot in this area. I have seen numerous sets of horse riding police officers clopping about which I understand are required but dont think they are going to catch many moped thieves on horseback. Its a serious issue, I have no clue which police station I would go to to report a crime because they all seem to be closed. I am in SE3 and I am sure we are not the worst by far. The police need more resources, more manpower abd frankly I would happily pay more tax if it was specifically spent on policing.
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Community Member 6 years agoYou're lucky you even get a police patrol on horseback. We haven't had them for years. There's no evidence of horses on the roads and footpaths anymore either.
You're lucky you even get a police patrol on horseback. We haven't had them for years. There's no evidence of horses on the roads and footpaths anymore either.
Mayor's Office…
Official Representative 6 years agoHi Arnie. Great to hear that you have been trying to get a neighbourhood watch scheme started. If you want to give us an email at [email protected] then we would be happy to help you.
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