Choosing what to eat
What are your main considerations when choosing what to eat?
What are your main considerations when choosing what to eat? Do you feel you are able to eat healthily in London? If not, why not?
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Community Member 7 years agoMy usual considerations when deciding what to eat would be cost and what's quickest/easiest. I try to make healthy choices when possible.
In my opinion, it is far more expensive to eat healthily in London (or anywhere) than it is to eat...
Show full commentMy usual considerations when deciding what to eat would be cost and what's quickest/easiest. I try to make healthy choices when possible.
In my opinion, it is far more expensive to eat healthily in London (or anywhere) than it is to eat unhealthily. I don't agree with the sugar levy, whilst the overall message is a healthy one, and the cost of some unhealthy products has risen, this tactic fails to lower the cost of the healthy items.
When living in a city where the cost of living is so high, lowering the cost of fresh fruit and veg and healthy snacks and making it cheaper and easier for people to eat healthily really is key.
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Community Member 7 years agoReal healthy food should be made cheaper. It's a shame that the healthiest foods can also be the most expensive. For people without much money it's cheaper for them to buy cheap processed foods over the healthier fruit, vegatetables...
Show full commentReal healthy food should be made cheaper. It's a shame that the healthiest foods can also be the most expensive. For people without much money it's cheaper for them to buy cheap processed foods over the healthier fruit, vegatetables, pulses and whole grains. We sacrifice other areas of our life so we can afford good organic plant based foods for our family. Really these are the foods that should be the cheapest as they are the ones that would increase peoples health and as a result take the strain off hospitals and doctors. Increase taxes on processed foods and make raw food products such as fruit, vegetables and pulses tax free so more people can afford to eat that kind of diet.
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Community Member 7 years agoI agree. Current VAT rules are MAD!!! It's high time we showed our 2 fingers to the EU...
Show full commentI agree. Current VAT rules are MAD!!! It's high time we showed our 2 fingers to the EU...
Show less of commentJulie Baker
Community Member 7 years agoWhat I want is more healthy food that is tasty, less packaging around food, more intersting vegetarian food available.
I am not a vegetarian but I don't eat meat except for chicken and I like fish. However I know vegetarians and I like...
Show full commentWhat I want is more healthy food that is tasty, less packaging around food, more intersting vegetarian food available.
I am not a vegetarian but I don't eat meat except for chicken and I like fish. However I know vegetarians and I like vegetarian food especially when it is a healthier option. But, when eating out vegetarian options are mostly very limited and often tasteless and boring. Even for non-veggies there should be more veg/salad to go with the meat or fish bit and more fruit to go with the naughty puddings to give a better balance.
These days there is so much temptation and not enough info on what is good and what is bad and it is so easy for people to get very over weight. Not that long ago, before all the ready meals and masses of junk food became commonplace, people were generally rather slim and looked good and felt better (and were also more active - less cars for a start but that's another issue). Education on nutrition would be a great help. It's no good saying the parents should control their children as often the parents are obese and have no idea themselves and are a big part of the reason the children are overweight. So many people don't undestand about nutrition so I think it should be taught at school to everyone - it's a basic life skill that everyone needs. In the meantime nutrition info should be put out somehow to all. There are the odd TV programmes that explain but not eveyone will watch them.
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Community Member 7 years agoThe truth is that too many parents are too LAZY to cook vegetables for their children.
The truth is that too many parents are too LAZY to cook vegetables for their children.
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Community Member 7 years agoI use some of the markets to get the freshest fruit and veg and shop at the meat market to balance my diet. London is far better supplied with good organic food than most major British cities and the diversity of food is typically good too...
Show full commentI use some of the markets to get the freshest fruit and veg and shop at the meat market to balance my diet. London is far better supplied with good organic food than most major British cities and the diversity of food is typically good too in London. For example, the excellent south east asian restaurant in the centre of Greenwich. One thing that does disturb me is the proliferation of low class Bangladeshi take aways, using poor ingrediants, low cost meats and who are dirty, poorly managed and staffed by untrained operatives, poor food storage and reliant upon donner and pizza products, often also delivered by drivers who are uninsured for business use and a menace on the roads and foodpaths when delivering. These take aways should be closed down as they are rat infested and unhygenic.
Of the seven butchers in the central part of Lewisham, 6 are stated to be Halal, yet all can be seen processing raw chickens with an unguarded band saw followed by lamb carcasses, there is no cleaning undertaken between the use with raw chicken and raw lamb meat and on several occaisions, carcasses delivered and dumped on the floor where they can be exposed to vermin and their faeces. More must be done to protect Londoners from poor food hygene, bad products and illegal use of vehicles for delivery due to the lack of proper insurance for the task. Britain has prefectly good hygene standards that are so poorly enforced, it is a surprise that there is not more contamination and disease, in a hotter climate, it would certainly be the case and I would expect instances of food oisoning to rise markedly in the Summer as a result.
The mayor's office needs to demand more food standards officers with the power to spot check and close premises that fail to meet the highest standards and enforce food and hygene laws rigidly across the food and retail sectors.
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Community Member 7 years agoMaybe we stay well because we're smart about where we shop. I tend to steer clear of Middle Eastern shops after being abused by a shopkeeper because I dared to say I could get something cheaper elsewhere! They disapprove of Western women...
Show full commentMaybe we stay well because we're smart about where we shop. I tend to steer clear of Middle Eastern shops after being abused by a shopkeeper because I dared to say I could get something cheaper elsewhere! They disapprove of Western women, anyway.
ReMa170471
Community Member 7 years agoI try to support local business / farmer or preparing their products at home
Show full commentI try to support local business / farmer or preparing their products at home
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Community Member 7 years ago1. Convenience: I don't usually feel I have time to prepare lunches for work. This means I have very little variety. I buy what I can afford for weekday lunches from nearby outlets (from Pret, Leon, Itsu et al - yawn). Although these aren't...
Show full comment1. Convenience: I don't usually feel I have time to prepare lunches for work. This means I have very little variety. I buy what I can afford for weekday lunches from nearby outlets (from Pret, Leon, Itsu et al - yawn). Although these aren't necessarily unhealthy outlets, quantities are often insufficient for the cost.
2. Cost: this is the biggest barrier. The cost of food is rising so rapidly, unhealthier eating is unavoidable. For 3 months this year I was on a very low income, and when I went to the supermarket it was much cheaper to buy a ready meal fish fie (£1) than prepare something from srcatch with all the necessary nutrients. £1 vs £2 makes all the difference when you're struggling financially.
3. Calories: my health is very important to me, so with everything I buy or prepare I make myself aware of the calorie and nutient content. A lot of affordable foods are carb/sugar-heavy which makes the task of making affordable, balanced and healthy choices more difficult.
4. Packaging: I'm trying more than ever to avoid plastic packaging, but this is very hard when using outlets and supermarkets.
5. Space: as I live in a shared house, I'm limited to one small cupboard and a shelf in the fridge. This means I can't buy a week's shopping in one go. I often buy for several days, which demands numerous visits to supermarkets.
I think it's broadly possible to eat healthily in London, but the time and financial expense is a huge deterrant. I would like to see more small, independent businesses in my local area offering loose products (butchers, grocers etc) and accepting card payments so that I don't lose time travelling to a supermarket.
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Community Member 7 years agoPoint 2: Rubbish, it is entirely possible to cook and prepare foods to take to work that are healthy, inexpensive and offer great taste, and it does not require a food science degree or training as a chef either. Casseroles offer a good low...
Show full commentPoint 2: Rubbish, it is entirely possible to cook and prepare foods to take to work that are healthy, inexpensive and offer great taste, and it does not require a food science degree or training as a chef either. Casseroles offer a good low cost route, use an old coffee jar and eat with some bread. Many workplaces also have facilities to reheat food. Home made curries, bolognese, with pasta or rice can be reheated or eaten cold and offer more low cost options for those on low incomes. Managing your space and food will save you money and using market stalls offering the £1 bowls of fruit and veg will allow you variety and good nutrition at an acceptable cost.
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Community Member 7 years ago@mwolf2001 please re-read my post careful if you would. I didn't say it was impossible to cook lunches in advance or that it demands skill — it's simply the inconvenience when one arrives home at 7pm. As I mention clearly, I would like to...
Show full comment@mwolf2001 please re-read my post careful if you would. I didn't say it was impossible to cook lunches in advance or that it demands skill — it's simply the inconvenience when one arrives home at 7pm. As I mention clearly, I would like to have access to food closer to my front door so that my shopping trips don't become an hour's round trip.
Your comments about casseroles etc are correct, but if you're on the breadline and you need to choose between a £1 or a £3 dish, you will choose the former.
Show less of commentCotterpin
Community Member 7 years agoWhat I can buy within a few minutes walk of home that is healthy (check the traffic lights!) and reasonably easy to prepare.
Show full commentWhat I can buy within a few minutes walk of home that is healthy (check the traffic lights!) and reasonably easy to prepare.
Show less of commentkaren attenborough
Community Member 7 years agoWe aim to eat as much fresh organic produce as possible although this is not always afffordable. Diabetes is dangerously on the rise and yet there is still far too much added sugar in our food. Supermarket bread, cereals and ready meals are...
Show full commentWe aim to eat as much fresh organic produce as possible although this is not always afffordable. Diabetes is dangerously on the rise and yet there is still far too much added sugar in our food. Supermarket bread, cereals and ready meals are far too high in sugar and saturated fats and antibiotics in meat and poultry are very concerning. We are fortunate to live close to a good fruit and vegetable stall, a healthfood shop and a weekly farmers market so can access fresh fruit vegetables and good fish, cheeses, pulses and olive oil. But it's very expensive. There are some great food outlets and restaurants in London, but for people on a tight budget it's the cheap sugary high fat and salty foods that are more accessible and affordable. Why does almost everything have added sugar (even natural sugar like maple syrup) when it's not necessary?
We can eat very healthily at home but to eat out healthily in London certainly costs.
Careoline
Community Member 7 years agoThere is a sugar lobby, some people have financial interests in selling more sugar.
Show full commentThere is a sugar lobby, some people have financial interests in selling more sugar.
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Community Member 7 years agoSugar is CHEAP. The food industry wants to make a profit.
Show full commentSugar is CHEAP. The food industry wants to make a profit.
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Community Member 7 years agoI have the same every night and it takes not very long to cook. I prepare boxes full of different vegetables and then take some out every night and put them in my steamer and steam them for about 15minutes. With this I have either chicken...
Show full commentI have the same every night and it takes not very long to cook. I prepare boxes full of different vegetables and then take some out every night and put them in my steamer and steam them for about 15minutes. With this I have either chicken or fish on Fridays. I manage to make this my only real meal of the day. Sometimes I have a sandwich in the morning. I still can't lose weight by eating just this though.
Show less of commentpaulbates
Community Member 7 years agoHi Nicola, you should have a look at a whole food plant based diet. My wife started this diet 2 years ago and lost a lot of excess weight as a result, even though she gave birth to our first child during that time! She even lost the...
Show full commentHi Nicola, you should have a look at a whole food plant based diet. My wife started this diet 2 years ago and lost a lot of excess weight as a result, even though she gave birth to our first child during that time! She even lost the celulite that she's had since she was a child.
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Community Member 7 years agoTry having a portion of Pink Grapefruit juice before each meal, this will help burn fat and allows the body to metabolise properly. I lost 35 kilos doing this and I am on medication that causes weight gain.
Show full commentTry having a portion of Pink Grapefruit juice before each meal, this will help burn fat and allows the body to metabolise properly. I lost 35 kilos doing this and I am on medication that causes weight gain.
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Community Member 7 years agoModeration in everything. Price is always a factor in London, even for those on fairly generous salaries. Availabilty of any type of food is not an issue. I think for most families the conundrum is that processed food is so much cheaper...
Show full commentModeration in everything. Price is always a factor in London, even for those on fairly generous salaries. Availabilty of any type of food is not an issue. I think for most families the conundrum is that processed food is so much cheaper, and for the time poor , more convenient.
Show less of commentRaeE
Community Member 7 years agoMy main considerations are: is it healthy (low sugar, low processed, lots of fruit and veg, variety of food sources); is it produced, packaged and sold in a way that would have lowest negative impact on the environment; largely or wholly...
Show full commentMy main considerations are: is it healthy (low sugar, low processed, lots of fruit and veg, variety of food sources); is it produced, packaged and sold in a way that would have lowest negative impact on the environment; largely or wholly vegetarian.
It is possiblke to eat healthily in London - but more difficult to - costs more, have to go out of your way often. And being bombarded by unhealthy food and encouragement to over stuff ourselves from every/ every other shop outlet now being some sort of food outlet or chain - and thei sight of people constantly eating on the mpve - makes it very hard to resist giving in!
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Community Member 7 years agoEating on the move is a new problem. In the days when we were a healthier nation, people ate at home and women stayed at home to cook. Nowadays, women want to have it all - and they want the same for their daughters. Something has to...
Show full commentEating on the move is a new problem. In the days when we were a healthier nation, people ate at home and women stayed at home to cook. Nowadays, women want to have it all - and they want the same for their daughters. Something has to give.
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Community Member 7 years agoI look for healthy tasty food which for me is often Japanese. I find my choices restricted in London, in major part due to the import restrictions imposed by the EU protecting EU interests from Japanese Producers. Finding authentic Japanese...
Show full commentI look for healthy tasty food which for me is often Japanese. I find my choices restricted in London, in major part due to the import restrictions imposed by the EU protecting EU interests from Japanese Producers. Finding authentic Japanese ingredients is often very difficult and the already high costs of eating in London is made worse by this. I hope that post Brexit, trade barriers with Japan will come down and the costs of Japanese food in Lodnon will follow suit. I would liek to see London forging stronger cultural links with other Major World Cities and food is a very strong part of that culture. There has been a tendency of late in Britain to think food is European, Indian or Chinese but that is a far too restrictive view and we shoudl promote more diversity.
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Community Member 7 years agoImporting food from Japan can't be good for the environment.
Show full commentImporting food from Japan can't be good for the environment.
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Community Member 7 years agoIf you want to find Japanese food, the best place to go is Japan.
We're getting a lot of comments from homesick foreigners on this forum... If London isn't enough like home, try going home.
Show full commentIf you want to find Japanese food, the best place to go is Japan.
We're getting a lot of comments from homesick foreigners on this forum... If London isn't enough like home, try going home.
Show less of commentLocronan
Community Member 7 years agoJust eat what you enjoy.
There is so much choice in the supermarkets now.
Just choose a restaurant to suite you taste and budget.
Don't complain about the price all the time.
I'm a pensioner but I eat a balanced diet that we cook...
Show full commentJust eat what you enjoy.
There is so much choice in the supermarkets now.
Just choose a restaurant to suite you taste and budget.
Don't complain about the price all the time.
I'm a pensioner but I eat a balanced diet that we cook ourselves and also eat at restaurants we like and can afford.
Show less of commentEmilio Merone
Community Member 7 years agoI always choose my food for its quality. First of all, I don't eat sugar for more than 10 years because everyone knows that it is a proper addictive poison for our body. And this should be the first "food" that the authority should get...
Show full commentI always choose my food for its quality. First of all, I don't eat sugar for more than 10 years because everyone knows that it is a proper addictive poison for our body. And this should be the first "food" that the authority should get illegal. There are lots of different substitutes of it like the xylitol, Truvia, stevia, honey and some fructose.
Then, of course, less red meat and cheese than you can (once per week). Here in London if you want to eat healthily you have to spend more than the junk food. This is the real problem!
But I would like to highlight the real scandal here in the UK: the junk food in the schools. There are the majority of the English schools that give low-quality frozen pizzas, fried chicken and fries, besides the number of junk sweets full of poison (sugar).
This is unacceptable and outrageous because in this case, they cannot choose the healthy food they want.
Am I wrong?
Let's change it please, cause we are what we eat.
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Community Member 7 years agoI don't want sugar illegal while I don't wanted it added to every food unncessarily, I sometimes want to make a cake or custard - shouldn't ban it. You are being somehwat hyberbolic.
Processed food is the problem and should be restricted...
Show full commentI don't want sugar illegal while I don't wanted it added to every food unncessarily, I sometimes want to make a cake or custard - shouldn't ban it. You are being somehwat hyberbolic.
Processed food is the problem and should be restricted - not ingredients.
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Community Member 7 years agoI choose organic and Fair Trade as much as possible. It is not always easy to find organic and Fair Trade produce locally, supermarkets or local shops, so I do a lot of online ordering and have fruit and vegs delivered to the door. Eating...
Show full commentI choose organic and Fair Trade as much as possible. It is not always easy to find organic and Fair Trade produce locally, supermarkets or local shops, so I do a lot of online ordering and have fruit and vegs delivered to the door. Eating out is a little more complicated, especially as I am a vegetarian. I don't think it's difficult to eat healthily in London, but organic is expensive.
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Community Member 7 years agoWhy buy organic if you're going to pollute our air with your home delivery? The chemicals in our air are far more dangerous than what's on our food.
Show full commentWhy buy organic if you're going to pollute our air with your home delivery? The chemicals in our air are far more dangerous than what's on our food.
Show less of commentmahonyr
Community Member 7 years agoI avoid fried, salty and sugary foods, and seek out leafy greens, whole grains, organic fruit and nuts. Morefish than meat, very little red meat, vegetarian at least twice a week.
Show full commentI avoid fried, salty and sugary foods, and seek out leafy greens, whole grains, organic fruit and nuts. Morefish than meat, very little red meat, vegetarian at least twice a week.
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Community Member 7 years agoPlenty of healthy food in London, but I find healthy food can be either convenient and expensive, or cheap and inconvenient. Plenty of discount supermarkets and markets selling good value healthy ingredients, the cheapest foisted you can...
Show full commentPlenty of healthy food in London, but I find healthy food can be either convenient and expensive, or cheap and inconvenient. Plenty of discount supermarkets and markets selling good value healthy ingredients, the cheapest foisted you can buy often, if you have the time to cook from scratch. If you want healthy food that is ready prepared, then it costs more than unhealthy fast food.
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Community Member 7 years agoFoisted??? Sorry, food. Spellchecker needs a kick.
Show full commentFoisted??? Sorry, food. Spellchecker needs a kick.
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Community Member 7 years agoPerhaps brain food is worth the investment?
Show full commentPerhaps brain food is worth the investment?
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Community Member 7 years agoI avoid plastic. While can get fruit that is about it interms of plastic free healthy eating on the go. So much in plastic!
Show full commentI avoid plastic. While can get fruit that is about it interms of plastic free healthy eating on the go. So much in plastic!
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Community Member 7 years agoIndeed. It's often frustrating that so much food is sold in plastic containers even though it could be just as well sold in bulk for you to pack in your own reusable bag.
Show full commentIndeed. It's often frustrating that so much food is sold in plastic containers even though it could be just as well sold in bulk for you to pack in your own reusable bag.
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Community Member 7 years agoDon't eat on the go, then?
Don't eat on the go, then?
COSMA
Community Member 7 years agoPeople who chose to do all their food shopping Online are in fact missing on many of the bargins and reductions that are only available in the shop.
Show full commentPeople who chose to do all their food shopping Online are in fact missing on many of the bargins and reductions that are only available in the shop.
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Community Member 7 years agoorganic and locally sourced products. grass fed meat. in London it's a great place to eat helathy but it's too expensive.
Show full commentorganic and locally sourced products. grass fed meat. in London it's a great place to eat helathy but it's too expensive.
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Community Member 7 years agoCosts of food drop drastically once you stop buying meat.
Show full commentCosts of food drop drastically once you stop buying meat.
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Community Member 7 years agoCost of living drops drastically if you move somewhere else.
Show full commentCost of living drops drastically if you move somewhere else.
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