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London Environment Strategy consultation

Food waste and recycling

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To what extent do you think about the environment when making food choices? Do you tend to recycle packaging or food waste? If not, why not? What would encourage you do to more?

The discussion ran from 10 May 2018 - 29 August 2018

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Environment is very important to me when making food choices. The less packaging, the better, though very difficult to avoid it all together with current supermarket practices.

Also, sadly Tower Hamlets (my local council) does not accept...

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Environment is very important to me when making food choices. The less packaging, the better, though very difficult to avoid it all together with current supermarket practices.

Also, sadly Tower Hamlets (my local council) does not accept many types of plastic packaging for recycling, neither does it collect food waste / compost from the block of flats where I live. I have tried asking local farm whether they'd be able to take compost as i am happy to bring it to them myself, but apparently they are really inudated with such requests from other locals (since there is no colleciton by the council) and they have far too much for their needs from their own cafe / farm.  

Very happy to do more, but need support from the local council / Mayor of London in the form of collection schemes. 

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Much more responsibility should be put on companies and supermarkets to provide only biodegradable shopping bags and packaging, plus recyclable containes. Residents can do their best to recycle but solutions should be implemented at...

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Much more responsibility should be put on companies and supermarkets to provide only biodegradable shopping bags and packaging, plus recyclable containes. Residents can do their best to recycle but solutions should be implemented at production level, otherwise it’s a continuous catching up exercise.

I have been recycling & I have been a veggie for the last 20 years with the a care for the environment as a driving focus. It’s a shame that being my flat on a main road, compost recycling is not possible. 

Happy with the recycling policies of Islington, otherwise. 

 

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we have a Hot Bin to compost our kitchen waste plus paper & cardboard also most of our garden waste goes in to it.

This time of the year we get good usable compost in 2 to 3 weeks.

Re the E.U. and its regulations for councils to for the...

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we have a Hot Bin to compost our kitchen waste plus paper & cardboard also most of our garden waste goes in to it.

This time of the year we get good usable compost in 2 to 3 weeks.

Re the E.U. and its regulations for councils to for the green waste which is collected which is then sold to farmers as compost by the lorry load to put on there fields this is full of plastics & metal so we are poisoning our own crops and animals.

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Is it the EU's fault that people put plastic and metal in their compost bins?

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Is it the EU's fault that people put plastic and metal in their compost bins?

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I try to buy only vegetables that are not wrapped in plastics, but supermarkets keep wrapping fruits and vegetables in unreasonable ways, and sometimes there are no alternatives to consumers, that practice should be simply banned.

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I try to buy only vegetables that are not wrapped in plastics, but supermarkets keep wrapping fruits and vegetables in unreasonable ways, and sometimes there are no alternatives to consumers, that practice should be simply banned.

Takeaways are also increasingly using more packaging to separate ingredients (creating even more waste), many people don't even know that their take away containers are not recyclable, they put them in recycling bins thinking they are doing something good for the environment. Takeaways should be encouraged to use reusable containers (asking for a deposit), and consumers should be educated to return such containers (in return for their deposit). Non-reusable takeaway containers should be banned.

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Why is it necessary to buy takeaway food and eat on the go?  Please educate me!  Why can't people eat at home, then go out, then eat at work/a cafe, then go out again, etc.?

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Why is it necessary to buy takeaway food and eat on the go?  Please educate me!  Why can't people eat at home, then go out, then eat at work/a cafe, then go out again, etc.?

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If people were paid to recycle - even minimal amounts (say 1p for a plastic bottle or coke can,or by weight of cardboard etc) then far more would be recycled and there might be less litter

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If people were paid to recycle - even minimal amounts (say 1p for a plastic bottle or coke can,or by weight of cardboard etc) then far more would be recycled and there might be less litter

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great idea! 

 

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great idea! 

 

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Citywide biogas plant, providing power and heat is the realitic solution. Composting is a waste of resources.

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Citywide biogas plant, providing power and heat is the realitic solution. Composting is a waste of resources.

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Yes, might work.  Though there was a problem with a biogas facility in California.

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Yes, might work.  Though there was a problem with a biogas facility in California.

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I live in Newham where the recycling is pretty woeful. For plastic, they only recycle plastic bottles. We try to buy products without plastic packaging but it’s hard if you shop in a supermarket. We buy a lot of products in bulk online...

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I live in Newham where the recycling is pretty woeful. For plastic, they only recycle plastic bottles. We try to buy products without plastic packaging but it’s hard if you shop in a supermarket. We buy a lot of products in bulk online, that have less packaging but we’d rather buy locally. We have a compost bin in our garden for food waste, as Newham don’t have a composting collection scheme. 

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I buy fresh, seasonal & British grown/produced food. I don't want packaged food & I don't want to buy food that has been transported thousands of miles. Yes, I recycle packaging and I am fortunate enough to live in a borough (Lambeth) which...

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I buy fresh, seasonal & British grown/produced food. I don't want packaged food & I don't want to buy food that has been transported thousands of miles. Yes, I recycle packaging and I am fortunate enough to live in a borough (Lambeth) which offers recycling of food waste.

Most people nowadays want a wide range of food products, many of which come pre-packaged. One solution, once you've bought the food, is to take it OUT of the packaging & leave it in the supermarket. This approach was adopted by consumers in Germany in the 1970s & was so successful that supermarkets very quickly reduced food packaging: it can be done. Look at what's been achieved on single-use plastic straws....

A London-wide composting scheme would be fantastic. We have green recycling in Lambeth, but it is the contractor Veolia who benefits: they sell the composted green waste. There is not even a scheme to offer at least some of the compost to community gardening groups, either free or at base cost.

I live on South Lambeth Road: we are awash with fast food establishments & takeways: the litter and rubbish from these premises is strewn all over our streets. Besides talking to the shop owners, we have now also called in the Council Enforcement Officer to levy fines against these premises for not keeping their environment clean. And we attend licensing hearings in an attempt to reduce the number of such outlets in Lambeth. With a 40% obesity rate amongst primary school children soon the only thing our taxes will be spent on is the NHS.

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Veolia do offer their compost to local community groups. We have been given 5 ton this year and 4 ton another year. Plus there is a regular Spacehive opportunity to get the compost.

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Veolia do offer their compost to local community groups. We have been given 5 ton this year and 4 ton another year. Plus there is a regular Spacehive opportunity to get the compost.

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The people who post on this discussion sound like the responsible ones.  Most of the waste comes from those who don't care, such as the takeaways you describe and their customers.  Yes, fines and greater regulation is probably the answer. 

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The people who post on this discussion sound like the responsible ones.  Most of the waste comes from those who don't care, such as the takeaways you describe and their customers.  Yes, fines and greater regulation is probably the answer. 

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I couldn't agree more with Manticore's comments. He/she has hit the nail on the head and highlighted the utter hypocrisy of governments in the 'developed' world publicly beating their breasts over the need to 'save the environment', while...

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I couldn't agree more with Manticore's comments. He/she has hit the nail on the head and highlighted the utter hypocrisy of governments in the 'developed' world publicly beating their breasts over the need to 'save the environment', while doing virtually nothing to curb the ludicrous number of flights airlifting fruit and vegetables from around the world to satisfy the 'needs' of the minority. Why does anyone 'need' to have raspberries and strawberries - to take Manticore's examples - flown in from Morocco to ensure these fruit are available all the year round in British supermarkets. Answer - they don't. Successive governments are merely paying lip service to the environment. Think how much environmental damage could be avoided, how many air miles could be reduced, by the expedient of banning the import of unseasonal fruit and vegetables into the UK and elsewhere. Will it happen? Of course not. Governments simply don't care about the environment.

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Presumably the Moroccans are happy to earn a bit of extra cash.  Otherwise they'll find themselves out of work (and come over here).  Unemployment and poverty have a severe negative impact on people.

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Presumably the Moroccans are happy to earn a bit of extra cash.  Otherwise they'll find themselves out of work (and come over here).  Unemployment and poverty have a severe negative impact on people.

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I am very concerned about the impact of my food choices on the environment. I have recently started getting a veg box delivered. The primary reason was to avoid the unnecessary plastic on vegetables in supermarkets. Please do all you can to...

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I am very concerned about the impact of my food choices on the environment. I have recently started getting a veg box delivered. The primary reason was to avoid the unnecessary plastic on vegetables in supermarkets. Please do all you can to encourage shops to reduce plastic. 

I have also recently started compositing food waste at home however I would much prefer it if composting were provided by the council.

I live in a block of flats with a communal bin and recycling bin. I am often disappointed to see recyclable waste in the rubbish bin and vice versa. Please improve how you educate people about the need to recycle the correct items. 

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There should be no packaging which is not recyclable.  Recycling should be the same across London. I live in Camden which has a very good recycling service.  I dont waste anything if I can help it.  I shop using a cloth bag and buy my fruit...

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There should be no packaging which is not recyclable.  Recycling should be the same across London. I live in Camden which has a very good recycling service.  I dont waste anything if I can help it.  I shop using a cloth bag and buy my fruit and veg from a stall wrapped in paper bags.  Governments should do much more to ban rubbish food and drink and non recyclable materials and should also do something drastic about air pollution.

 

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We think about it all the time. We compost our own fruit & veg waste, tea leaves and coffee grounds (not the tea bag sachets - just the tea inside the sachets). Our frustration is with the producers (eg the teabag makers who use non...

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We think about it all the time. We compost our own fruit & veg waste, tea leaves and coffee grounds (not the tea bag sachets - just the tea inside the sachets). Our frustration is with the producers (eg the teabag makers who use non-recyleable sachets) and packers + Supermarkets(eg Fruit in non-recyleable plastic bags + containers). It is not beyond the wit of these clever people to find re-cylable material for this kind of packaging. 

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I try hard to reduce plastic waste, but it is pretty much impossible. I recycle as much as I can and we are fortunate that the council provides subsidised composting bins- as we live in a flat, we are using a worm farm on our balcony for...

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I try hard to reduce plastic waste, but it is pretty much impossible. I recycle as much as I can and we are fortunate that the council provides subsidised composting bins- as we live in a flat, we are using a worm farm on our balcony for our veggie scraps. It would be great if the council could do food waste collection for other food waste.

I would like to buy less-packaged food. I would use a bulk buy wholefoods and bring my own containers if there was one in the local area. 

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I do all I can to recycle everything. In France there are no plastic bags like the 5p ones. You buy a “bag for life” or bring baskets,string bags, anything. If you forget your bags, you have to buy another “bag for life”. Still far too much...

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I do all I can to recycle everything. In France there are no plastic bags like the 5p ones. You buy a “bag for life” or bring baskets,string bags, anything. If you forget your bags, you have to buy another “bag for life”. Still far too much plastic packaging everywhere.

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I'm glad to hear the French are more green.  Do you find they carry on those habits when they come to England?

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I'm glad to hear the French are more green.  Do you find they carry on those habits when they come to England?

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I do think about the environment when buying food. I particularly think that supermarket are using a lot of packaging which cannot be recycle. I think we must ask supermarket to push the packaging industry to use recyclable packaging and...

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I do think about the environment when buying food. I particularly think that supermarket are using a lot of packaging which cannot be recycle. I think we must ask supermarket to push the packaging industry to use recyclable packaging and for supermarket to provide recycling bins at check outs to encourage people to recycle more, as not all borough are hot on receycling.

I also think that compositing should be part of recycling programs in bouroughs.

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Alot. I refuse to buy things with excessive packaging. I detest Amazon for the ridiculous amount of packaging their parcels have. They as a company should be made to recollect their packaging for reuse because I presume much of it ends up...

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Alot. I refuse to buy things with excessive packaging. I detest Amazon for the ridiculous amount of packaging their parcels have. They as a company should be made to recollect their packaging for reuse because I presume much of it ends up in peoples bins after one use. I will not buy from major high street coffee chains due to their unreyclable cups. I never use cheap takeaways as I do not trust the provenance of their chicken! I would like to see it to be compulsory for residents and businesses to recycle and sort their rubbish responsibly. I live in an area of London where people refuse to recycle they just dump everything in bin bags. My borough does a green waste collection weekly to which you can add kitchen waste veg., but people still put greens like grass and garden waste in bin bags! Many shops have switched to paper bags now and I would like to see all plastic carrier bags gone as people are using more despite being charged for them.

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I get 10p plastic bags at the supermarket so that I have something to use as a rubbish bin at home.  They're also good for wrapping half-used packets of meat and fish in the fridge.

Cooking your own chicken is certainly a better option...

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I get 10p plastic bags at the supermarket so that I have something to use as a rubbish bin at home.  They're also good for wrapping half-used packets of meat and fish in the fridge.

Cooking your own chicken is certainly a better option than relying on takeaways.  I cook my own free range chicken.

When I go to a coffee shop, I eat inside the establishment so that I can use a glass.

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I avoid buying products with double packaging and recycle all I can. Sadly, most plastics  involved in grocery shopping is of the soft kind which can't be recycled in Bermondsey. I'm also unable to recycle milk cartons. It would help if all...

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I avoid buying products with double packaging and recycle all I can. Sadly, most plastics  involved in grocery shopping is of the soft kind which can't be recycled in Bermondsey. I'm also unable to recycle milk cartons. It would help if all borough followed a standardised way of recycling as people in West London use plastics bags instead of bins and have different guidance on what to recycle. Wards need to consider the limited space Londoners have inside their property (often flats) and keeping three types of bins indoors (food waste, recyclables and general waste) is not an option for some.

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I strongly believe that businesses (from supermarkets to restaurants) who supply food and beverages should have to use recyclable or compostable packaging and utensils (for takeaway goods).  Too many products aren't recyclable and people...

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I strongly believe that businesses (from supermarkets to restaurants) who supply food and beverages should have to use recyclable or compostable packaging and utensils (for takeaway goods).  Too many products aren't recyclable and people are unaware, or there isn't much they can do other than talk with their wallets.  Incentives from local and central government could help, businesses themselves can encourage customers to bring their own vessle.  But the huge amount of packaging and non-recyclable or compostable waste needs to end and it needs to be expediated.

Composting schemes for those whoes Borough Councils don't offer it should be developed, and within high streets, shopping malls etc there needs to be reclcying, composting and other waste bins so that people are able to continue good home habits when out and about.

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We need to do something about takeaway food in general.  Perhaps we could change the VAT rules to make it cheaper to eat in the restaurant.

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We need to do something about takeaway food in general.  Perhaps we could change the VAT rules to make it cheaper to eat in the restaurant.

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Transparent plastic pachaging should be banned

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Transparent plastic pachaging should be banned

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Recycling practices need to be standardised and information needs to be clearer. Packaging often says 'check kerbside collection information' and this can be difficult to find and confusing, and differ between boroughs. I recycle and...

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Recycling practices need to be standardised and information needs to be clearer. Packaging often says 'check kerbside collection information' and this can be difficult to find and confusing, and differ between boroughs. I recycle and compost as much as possible, but am never totally sure if I have it right. I'm also not sure of where it goes and how it is collected. I do not necessarily have trust that authorities are dealing with it the right way.

I do not buy certain foods because of their packaging. For example, Aldi sell a single aubergine in non-recyclable film!

I think that manufacturers need to be held more to account. 

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