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    Have you heard of Refill London? The scheme will help you locate places to refill your bottle with free tap water.

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    To help reduce the amount of single-use plastic bottles and make drinking water more accessible in public spaces, the Mayor has launched a scheme to help Londoners locate places to refill their bottles with free tap water. 

    The discussion ran from 15 March 2018 - 09 May 2018

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    My first comment is that potable water is not free, paid for by someone such as taxpayers, be they private or business rate taxpayers. But this, naturally, does not concern the Mayor or his administrators.
    While it will be great if...

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    My first comment is that potable water is not free, paid for by someone such as taxpayers, be they private or business rate taxpayers. But this, naturally, does not concern the Mayor or his administrators.
    While it will be great if businesses continue to offer this facility I feel that the Mayor should initiate coin operated refill points throughout London. This would be the modern equivalent of the many drinking water fountains that existed when I was young but which have disappeared today. I saw coin operated water dispensers in use in America and found them convenient and economical.

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    At roughly 1p a litre, this water isn't going to cost 'the taxpayer' (me, for instance) very much. The administration costs from charging would hugely outweigh the water cost. It's a good idea.

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    @Hampshirehog. Yes, water has to be paid for. The typical cost of tap water is about 1 pence per bucket, or 0.097 pence per litre. Bottled water is, what, £1 for half a litre? Roughly 5,000 times more. And the taxpayer still has to...

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    @Hampshirehog. Yes, water has to be paid for. The typical cost of tap water is about 1 pence per bucket, or 0.097 pence per litre. Bottled water is, what, £1 for half a litre? Roughly 5,000 times more. And the taxpayer still has to dispose of the plastic bottle from the waste basket that may or may not exist.

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    Was common in 19th century Paris "les wallaces"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_fountain#Today
    Donated by and Englishman - he of the Wallace Collection and still functioning
    But there was no safe drinkable tap water as now

    The...

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    Was common in 19th century Paris "les wallaces"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_fountain#Today
    Donated by and Englishman - he of the Wallace Collection and still functioning
    But there was no safe drinkable tap water as now

    The madness of carrying a plastic bottle was promoted by sellers of bottled water only a few decades ago - pretty pointless in a temperate climate - it's those who should be surcharged with a specific tax

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    In general it sounds good, but what is the cost to us in the City of London? What do we give up to get it? Most of the usage is going to be by tourists I wager. That does not diminish the importance, but all such issues need to be...

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    In general it sounds good, but what is the cost to us in the City of London? What do we give up to get it? Most of the usage is going to be by tourists I wager. That does not diminish the importance, but all such issues need to be analysed from a cost standpoint. Also, how are these kept sanitary?

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    Great idea, let's see how well it works in practise. Needs to be rolled out to other areas to provide maximum benefit (i.e. even beyond London in the longer term). And what about potential users who don't have a smartphone?

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    A great initiative and long overdue. Single-use plastic of any kind is disgraceful. Bring back glass bottles with a deposit scheme - just like the old days!

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    A great initiative and long overdue. Single-use plastic of any kind is disgraceful. Bring back glass bottles with a deposit scheme - just like the old days!

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    Freely available water is basic common sense, and I fully support the scheme.

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    Great idea. Roll it out nationwide!

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    It's a good idea, but doesn't go nearly far enough: there should be public water fountains available throughout London, particularly in all parks and public buildings (eg libraries, hospitals, schools, etc.) - and which DON'T require people...

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    It's a good idea, but doesn't go nearly far enough: there should be public water fountains available throughout London, particularly in all parks and public buildings (eg libraries, hospitals, schools, etc.) - and which DON'T require people to have carried their own bottles with them.

    I accept that this scheme, if adopted sufficiently widely by local businesses, will go a long way to helping, but the government needs to spend some its own money to install public water fountains, too.

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    This is a great idea that needs to be expanded to Greater London to reduce plastic waste and help the environment. hope other cities will follow.

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    This is a great idea that needs to be expanded to Greater London to reduce plastic waste and help the environment. hope other cities will follow.

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    Excellent idea. It will contribute to the plastic bottles decease and also prevent people from fainting when hot and humid.

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    Excellent idea. It will contribute to the plastic bottles decease and also prevent people from fainting when hot and humid.

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    Great initiative. Haven’t used it yet as no locations are near me. Hope the scheme expands. London could really lead the way on this.

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    Great initiative. Haven’t used it yet as no locations are near me. Hope the scheme expands. London could really lead the way on this.

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    This will be great to stop the situation where I've been wanting a simple glass of water and have had to buy a bottle from the nearest shop when travelling around London. In central London it's hard to get the option to have a glass or...

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    This will be great to stop the situation where I've been wanting a simple glass of water and have had to buy a bottle from the nearest shop when travelling around London. In central London it's hard to get the option to have a glass or bottle of water without having to buy something in a restaurant or convenience store, but this will hopefully revive the traditional water fountains in public areas so it reduces the plastic build up from one use cups and bottles.

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    Hoxton Square has a water fountain that should be in use.There are fountains all over London that should be put into use again.It was common years back for free water.Why did it ever stop?

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    Excellent idea, as long as all taps are regularly inspected and there is some method of reporting faulty taps which are then maintained promptly, so as to prevent any wastage.
    I particularly favour water being available on tube station...

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    Excellent idea, as long as all taps are regularly inspected and there is some method of reporting faulty taps which are then maintained promptly, so as to prevent any wastage.
    I particularly favour water being available on tube station platforms and at airports, to cater particularly for times when transport is severely delayed in the heat, or for many hours when food and drink outlets may have closed.

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    Very good idea, not only to reduce plastic bottle, but because it's not so sure that plastic bottle are so safe. Last studies about microplastic particles could report some bad news.
    Fountain position should be retrievable by APP and/or...

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    Very good idea, not only to reduce plastic bottle, but because it's not so sure that plastic bottle are so safe. Last studies about microplastic particles could report some bad news.
    Fountain position should be retrievable by APP and/or in Google map too.

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    Really! total waste of money, yes I also drink water go to the gym go running etc and I carry a re useable bottle. Stop wasting time and money on this and take action on knife crime. Once it is safe to walk the street of London then we can...

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    Really! total waste of money, yes I also drink water go to the gym go running etc and I carry a re useable bottle. Stop wasting time and money on this and take action on knife crime. Once it is safe to walk the street of London then we can worry about water fountains.

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    This would help reduce plastic waste by tonnes!

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    It has my support - could do with writing to restaurants etc. and asking them to stop using plastic straws too

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    Well done Mr Khan and colleagues, another benefit for native Londeners and visitors

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    I have not heard of the initiative before but it sounds like a no brainer. We always fill a water bottle at home before going out but sometimes top up by buying a bottle, so more refill stations are most welcome

    I would suggest that the...

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    I have not heard of the initiative before but it sounds like a no brainer. We always fill a water bottle at home before going out but sometimes top up by buying a bottle, so more refill stations are most welcome

    I would suggest that the Mayor considers selling reusable bottles (with a London logo of course) to encourage people to use these rather single use plastic and of course to help pay for the project.

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    Hi Guykeshet. You can earn yourself a free reusable bottle by downloading the app and earning points each time you Refill: https://www.refill.org.uk/buy-a-bottle/

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