Rough sleeping in London
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999 Londoners have responded | 27/01/2025 - 02/03/2025

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What does ‘ending rough sleeping by 2030’ mean to you?
City Hall is working on a definition and is looking for your input and feedback.
“Ending rough sleeping in London means preventing rough sleeping wherever possible. When this is not possible, making it a rare, brief and one-off experience.”
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- What does ‘ending rough sleeping by 2030’ mean to you?
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The discussion ran from 27 January 2025 - 02 March 2025
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Community Member 4 months ago‘ending’ feels finite and unachievable, a promise made to inevitably be broken. However, I am pleased to hear action is being taken to address rough sleeping as a priority given how prevalent it has become.
Show full comment‘ending’ feels finite and unachievable, a promise made to inevitably be broken. However, I am pleased to hear action is being taken to address rough sleeping as a priority given how prevalent it has become.
Show less of commentPink_Sunrise
Community Member 4 months ago"and one-off experience"
I wonder if this is "wholly" realistic in that there will be many who will return tohe streets due to a more nomadic lifestyle & mental health issues.
I wonder if it would not be more accurate/realistic to say "the...
Show full comment"and one-off experience"
I wonder if this is "wholly" realistic in that there will be many who will return tohe streets due to a more nomadic lifestyle & mental health issues.
I wonder if it would not be more accurate/realistic to say "the opportunity to never be homeless again"
Show less of commentEscorchio
Community Member 4 months agoI like this understanding of the term. I would like to see something acknowledging that though for a tiny minority it is a choice, for many it is not. In our
Increasingly challenging society people must be helped to understand how easily...
Show full commentI like this understanding of the term. I would like to see something acknowledging that though for a tiny minority it is a choice, for many it is not. In our
Increasingly challenging society people must be helped to understand how easily homelessness can happen and how challenging it can be to secure safe and affordable housing.
Show less of commentKeithJF82
Community Member 5 months agoI think the actual definition is fine, but to echo other comments, calling it "ending rough sleeping" is a bit misleading and makes it sound like unrealistic goals are being aimed for.
Show full commentIf I were coming up with an alternative definition, I...
I think the actual definition is fine, but to echo other comments, calling it "ending rough sleeping" is a bit misleading and makes it sound like unrealistic goals are being aimed for.
If I were coming up with an alternative definition, I would perhaps focus more on practical goals, e.g.:
- Anyone who finds themselves with nowhere to stay for the night should either already know where to turn for help, or have easy access to information on where to turn. This means more than just online information and announcements telling the public to "donate to charity projects" - it means things like "What To Do If You Are At Risk Of Homelessness" posters.
- There should be city workers proactively reaching out to rough sleepers and potential rough sleepers, rather than a reliance on the public to report exact locations etc.
Show less of commentRamiye from Ci…
Official Representative 4 months agoThank you for your comment KeithJF82. What kind of locations would it be most helpful for people to find information about support available?
KeithJF82
Community Member 4 months agoPeople with more expertise and knowledge than me could probably give better answers, but some ideas off the top of my head:
- Anywhere there is already advertising or information infrastructure (billboards, screens, PA systems, etc.)
- Known...
Show full commentPeople with more expertise and knowledge than me could probably give better answers, but some ideas off the top of my head:
Above all, I think there needs to be a shift towards treating rough sleepers or potential rough sleepers as a "target audience" or "clients/patients" rather than an invisible population about whom to talk to the "normal people" without their involvement. (I'm probably either explaining this really badly or being overly idealistic.)
Show less of commentbalbadesha
Community Member 5 months agoLet's get real. No one is going to solve homelessness in 5 years as no London Mayor since Ken Livingstone has yet done so. Unless the Police are given powers to forcibly get people of the streets (fascism) and then people are forcibly...
Show full commentLet's get real. No one is going to solve homelessness in 5 years as no London Mayor since Ken Livingstone has yet done so. Unless the Police are given powers to forcibly get people of the streets (fascism) and then people are forcibly treated for their addictions, mental health and poverty issues (more fascism), their problems will persist. How many millions will that take in a cash strapped country?
Show less of commentiddoomer
Community Member 4 months agoWith the greatest of respect, Fascism is a difficult word to define, with many scholars and philosophers attempting to provide a definition that fits.
However almost everyone who has tried agrees that it includes in it's definition it sees...
Show full commentWith the greatest of respect, Fascism is a difficult word to define, with many scholars and philosophers attempting to provide a definition that fits.
However almost everyone who has tried agrees that it includes in it's definition it sees the needs of an individual suppressed at the benefit of the needs of the state.
A program to support an individual, at cost to the state, would be the exact opposite of the common definition of fascism.
Show less of commentPink_Sunrise
Community Member 4 months agoThis mayor has shown himself to be ambitious as he is bold. 5 years is a long enough time to strive for his ambition to give homeless people a real opportunity to not be homeless and rough sleeping. His ambition fits the great city of...
Show full commentThis mayor has shown himself to be ambitious as he is bold. 5 years is a long enough time to strive for his ambition to give homeless people a real opportunity to not be homeless and rough sleeping. His ambition fits the great city of London.
Show less of commentzoobie02
Community Member 5 months agoWe need to stop landlords and oligarchs from buying up properties and leaving them empty to accrue value. Housing is a human right not an asset to be hoarded. There needs to be caps on the amount of rent that can be charges and more support...
Show full commentWe need to stop landlords and oligarchs from buying up properties and leaving them empty to accrue value. Housing is a human right not an asset to be hoarded. There needs to be caps on the amount of rent that can be charges and more support for first time buyers.
Seriously, how can my landlord get away with charging so much money per month?
Show less of commentMM84
Community Member 5 months agoLondon Is great place for all type of workers, but rent an appartament or stay in an hotel Is too expensive for people came from other coutries
Show full commentLondon Is great place for all type of workers, but rent an appartament or stay in an hotel Is too expensive for people came from other coutries
Show less of commentHayeswasp
Community Member 5 months agoHopefully, by 2030, the mayor will no longer be in office—perhaps facing the consequences of being exposed.
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Community Member 5 months agoWe must put an end to landlords and oligarchs purchasing properties only to leave them vacant while their value rises. Housing should be treated as a basic human right, not a commodity for speculation. Rent controls should be implemented to...
Show full commentWe must put an end to landlords and oligarchs purchasing properties only to leave them vacant while their value rises. Housing should be treated as a basic human right, not a commodity for speculation. Rent controls should be implemented to prevent excessive charges, and greater support must be provided to first-time buyers to ensure fair access to homeownership
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Community Member 5 months agoWe must put an end to landlords and oligarchs purchasing properties only to leave them vacant while their value rises. Housing should be treated as a basic human right, not a commodity for speculation. Rent controls should be implemented to...
Show full commentWe must put an end to landlords and oligarchs purchasing properties only to leave them vacant while their value rises. Housing should be treated as a basic human right, not a commodity for speculation. Rent controls should be implemented to prevent excessive charges, and greater support must be provided to first-time buyers to ensure fair access to homeownership
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Community Member 5 months agoWe must put an end to landlords and oligarchs purchasing properties only to leave them vacant while their value rises. Housing should be treated as a basic human right, not a commodity for speculation. Rent controls should be implemented to...
Show full commentWe must put an end to landlords and oligarchs purchasing properties only to leave them vacant while their value rises. Housing should be treated as a basic human right, not a commodity for speculation. Rent controls should be implemented to prevent excessive charges, and greater support must be provided to first-time buyers to ensure fair access to homeownership
Show less of commentAnonymous - account deleted
Community Member 5 months agoWe must put an end to landlords and oligarchs purchasing properties only to leave them vacant while their value rises. Housing should be treated as a basic human right, not a commodity for speculation. Rent controls should be implemented to...
Show full commentWe must put an end to landlords and oligarchs purchasing properties only to leave them vacant while their value rises. Housing should be treated as a basic human right, not a commodity for speculation. Rent controls should be implemented to prevent excessive charges, and greater support must be provided to first-time buyers to ensure fair access to homeownership
Show less of commentAnonymous - account deleted
Community Member 5 months agoheir value rises. Housing should be treated as a basic human right, not a commodity for speculation. Rent controls should be implemented to prevent excessive charges, and greater support must be provided to first-time buyers to ensure fair...
Show full commentheir value rises. Housing should be treated as a basic human right, not a commodity for speculation. Rent controls should be implemented to prevent excessive charges, and greater support must be provided to first-time buyers to ensure fair access to homeownership.
Show less of commentcoch123
Community Member 5 months agoWe need to stop landlords and oligarchs from buying up properties and leaving them empty to accrue value. Housing is a human right not an asset to be hoarded. There needs to be caps on the amount of rent that can be charges and more support...
Show full commentWe need to stop landlords and oligarchs from buying up properties and leaving them empty to accrue value. Housing is a human right not an asset to be hoarded. There needs to be caps on the amount of rent that can be charges and more support for first time buyers.
Show less of commentZapgaia
Community Member 5 months agoThe proposed definition of ending rough sleeping in London emphasizes both prevention and the minimization of the experience, which is a solid foundation for addressing homelessness. Here are my thoughts on the definition:
Show full comment1. Prevention...
The proposed definition of ending rough sleeping in London emphasizes both prevention and the minimization of the experience, which is a solid foundation for addressing homelessness. Here are my thoughts on the definition:
1. Prevention Focus: The emphasis on prevention is vital. Preventing individuals from experiencing rough sleeping in the first place is the most effective and humane approach.
2. Rare, Brief, and One-Off: This part of the definition recognizes that for some people, circumstances may lead to rough sleeping. Ensuring that such experiences are rare and brief is crucial for reducing the trauma associated with homelessness.
Suggested Changes:
1. Inclusivity: The definition could be broadened to emphasize the need for inclusive support systems that address the diverse needs of individuals at risk of rough sleeping, including those with mental health issues, substance use challenges, and other vulnerabilities.
2. Comprehensive Support: It could highlight the importance of not only providing immediate shelter but also long-term support options that lead to stability, such as job training and mental health services.
What is Missing:
1. Community Engagement: The definition lacks mention of community involvement and the role of society in supporting those at risk of rough sleeping. Engaging local communities can foster a sense of responsibility and encourage collective action.
2. Holistic Approach: There is limited emphasis on the need for a holistic approach that includes addressing systemic issues such as poverty, inequality, and lack of affordable housing.
3. Sustainability: It does not explicitly mention the sustainability of solutions, which is essential for ensuring that progress is maintained over time.
Meaning of ‘Ending Rough Sleeping by 2030’:
Show less of commentTo me, "ending rough sleeping by 2030" signifies a commitment to a future where everyone has access to safe and stable housing, backed by comprehensive support, ensuring that no one is left behind
Ramiye from Ci…
Official Representative 5 months agoHi Zapgaia, thanks for your comment. You mention the importance of community engagement in ending rough sleeping - what kinds of things could local communities do to support those at risk of rough sleeping?
You also highlighted inclusivity and holistic approaches as key to ending rough sleeping. What do others think about ensuring the diverse needs of those at risk of rough sleeping are looked at as part of efforts to end rough sleeping?
Best wishes,
Ramiye
Zapgaia
Community Member 5 months agoThere is an initiative, which is a Canadian program called the New Leaf Project, led by the charity Foundations for Social Change in partnership with the University of British Columbia.
This program provided one-time cash transfers of CAD 7...
Show full commentThere is an initiative, which is a Canadian program called the New Leaf Project, led by the charity Foundations for Social Change in partnership with the University of British Columbia.
This program provided one-time cash transfers of CAD 7,500 to a group of homeless individuals in Vancouver, aiming to test whether direct cash assistance could help them escape homelessness. The results showed that recipients used the money for essential needs like housing, food, and transportation, with many securing stable living arrangements faster than those in a control group. The study found that recipients spent less on alcohol, drugs, and other non-essentials than commonly assumed, challenging stereotypes about how direct cash assistance is used by homeless individuals.
This initiative aligns with broader discussions on unconditional cash transfers as a potential solution for poverty and homelessness, demonstrating that direct financial aid can lead to positive, self-sustaining outcomes.
The New Leaf Project showed that giving homeless people a one-time lump sum of CAD 7,500 was significantly more cost-effective than traditional support systems.
Canada spends an estimated CAD 55,000 per homeless person per year on emergency shelters, social services, policing, and healthcare.
Many homeless individuals cycle through shelters, hospitals, and jails, which leads to high ongoing costs without necessarily helping them exit homelessness.
The study suggests that direct cash transfers save money compared to traditional support systems by reducing long-term dependence on shelters and emergency services.
Investing a fraction of what is normally spent helped people exit homelessness faster and more sustainably.
This approach challenges the idea that long-term, high-cost support systems are the only solution, showing that strategic direct aid can be a cheaper and more effective alternative.
What are your thoughts on this?
Show less of commentPink_Sunrise
Community Member 4 months ago- Visible sign posting to find off-street places to sleep safely, warmly and with a simple meal.
- enough places/pockets that can cater for vulnerable people finding themselves homeless
Show full comment- Visible sign posting to find off-street places to sleep safely, warmly and with a simple meal.
- enough places/pockets that can cater for vulnerable people finding themselves homeless
Show less of commentnpg1968
Community Member 5 months agoDismantling the structures that transfer from local government, housing benefit as a source of income for the likes of L&G / St. Mungos etc. How much of our money is being diverted into the hands of these huge "social landlords" that could...
Show full commentDismantling the structures that transfer from local government, housing benefit as a source of income for the likes of L&G / St. Mungos etc. How much of our money is being diverted into the hands of these huge "social landlords" that could otherwise be spent on actually housing more people and providing the essential services / interventions that are needed? Yes, more money is and will be needed alongside the real political will to turn this around. However, this is the UK. RIP off Britain where the vast majority of us are fleeced and gaslit by the wealthy and well connected. Ending rough sleeping is just one more on the list of "issues" easily exploited for political self-interest. The UK is a mess and an embarrassment and it has NOTHING to do with immigration, legal or otherwise. It's abuse from the powerful and the forces of conservatism (small c).
Show less of commentAnna2007
Community Member 5 months agoMaybe “Sir” Sadiq Khan should spend less time on TV and promoting vanity projects such as the renaming of the Overground and more time on providing accommodation and help for homeless people. I do not understand why he merited a knighthood...
Show full commentMaybe “Sir” Sadiq Khan should spend less time on TV and promoting vanity projects such as the renaming of the Overground and more time on providing accommodation and help for homeless people. I do not understand why he merited a knighthood.
Show less of commentFrenchcath
Community Member 5 months agoAny positive contribution to the debate? Or more useless hatred?
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Community Member 5 months agoThe definition is fine in itself but I do question the amount of time it has to take to clear the majority of rough sleepers in London. 2030...why does it take years to achieve? It's about the space, time and money to facilitate a temp...
Show full commentThe definition is fine in itself but I do question the amount of time it has to take to clear the majority of rough sleepers in London. 2030...why does it take years to achieve? It's about the space, time and money to facilitate a temp housing facility. This could be made of shipping containers, disused warehouses or industrial buildings or disused office buildings of which there are plenty around the country. We should facilitate moving rough sleepers to other parts of the country if it means a semi permanent roof over their head.
Show less of commentAnna2007
Community Member 5 months agoSome and I only mean some people choose to be homeless because the relationships that they have with their family are non existent and unstable. They do not have the family support available to them. Homelessness is not just people from...
Show full commentSome and I only mean some people choose to be homeless because the relationships that they have with their family are non existent and unstable. They do not have the family support available to them. Homelessness is not just people from poor backgrounds either. There are homeless people from very well to do backgrounds as well. Some people see homelessness as a complete evasion of any responsibility I.e people who are unable to cope with holding down a job, have relationships or cope with any form of responsibility. I was concerned about how many rough sleepers there were out on the pavements in Kensington during the really cold spell and I felt unsafe. I thought that councils were honour bound to provide emergency shelter to those sleeping rough.
Show less of commentJealbutt
Community Member 5 months agoDrug and alcohol addiction seems to be a major problem and seems to make it harder for people to get back into stable accommodation. For that reason I think that rehabilitation needs to be a priority and that drug and alcohol addiction...
Show full commentDrug and alcohol addiction seems to be a major problem and seems to make it harder for people to get back into stable accommodation. For that reason I think that rehabilitation needs to be a priority and that drug and alcohol addiction should not bar people from going through the process of being housed. Then these people need regular support and attention for years to help them to maintain a good life. And yes, it is not easy - but it will be worth it.
Show less of commentRamiye from Ci…
Official Representative 4 months agoThank you for your comment, Jealbutt. We'll make sure this is shared with the Housing team.