Social prescribing

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Social prescribing is about helping people to find ways to improve their health and wellbeing by linking them up with what is going on in their local area. It enables people to access services that meet their wider emotional, physical and social needs.

Together with the Healthy London Partnership, NHS England and the Social Prescribing Network for London and following engagement, City Hall has developed a draft social prescribing vision for London.

We'd love to hear what you think.

Have you heard of social prescribing before and what do you think about it? Do you know if it’s available in your area? Would you use a social prescribing service if it were offered to you?

The discussion ran from 30 January 2019 - 30 April 2019

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In principle a great idea, I like the holistic approach to improving mental and physical health outcomes.

However some reservations: where would the funding come from? Our mental health services have been irreparably damaged from funding...

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In principle a great idea, I like the holistic approach to improving mental and physical health outcomes.

However some reservations: where would the funding come from? Our mental health services have been irreparably damaged from funding cuts and diverting resources to prevention is great but mental health services need more investment.

For me this idea is essentially about building networks of information about already existing community resources and connecting people with them. How can we use tech to aid this and keep costs lower? Massive opportunity to map what is there and connect services with users.

I'd be interested to see data on non-attendance and how that might be tackled as this is a risk I identify.

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I would say it is about collecting and organising existing information and organising it's distribution. These activities have been available forever, but very many are now unaffordable for people on low incomes, and many are not based...

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I would say it is about collecting and organising existing information and organising it's distribution. These activities have been available forever, but very many are now unaffordable for people on low incomes, and many are not based close enough to their homes (eg referals for physical exercise training is only to far away sports centres, not available in local ones).  DIverting resources to prevention is sadly taking funding away from medical treatment that people need now. This social prescribing should absolutely not be funded by the NHS or GP centres.  Non-attendance - GPs will go on about this. When will they start paying patients for all the times the patient makes an appointment but has to wait over an hour after that time to see the GP.  Non-attendance of one patient simply means that the time the rest of the patients have to wait after their booked appointment time is reduced by ten minutes. Then there is all the time wasted by patients, on the phone and having to go in person to outpatients departments, because a referral was made but as usual has got lost in the system for several months.  

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This is a brilliant concept! I was involved with this a few years ago when it was just starting out, and the debt advice charity I volunteered with was used to refer people with financial stress. However it doesn't work in isolation, as...

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This is a brilliant concept! I was involved with this a few years ago when it was just starting out, and the debt advice charity I volunteered with was used to refer people with financial stress. However it doesn't work in isolation, as some people need wholistic support. So it will be useful for charities / referal agencies to collaborate with other local agencies.

I love the idea of community support, as this is so lacking in London and results in so much loniliness and other struggles. This is a good place to start.

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It's brilliant! As a young medical student I can personally attest to the magic that social prescribing can bring - we have chronic lonliness and community fragmentation --> social prescribing finally addresses this public health and HUMAN...

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It's brilliant! As a young medical student I can personally attest to the magic that social prescribing can bring - we have chronic lonliness and community fragmentation --> social prescribing finally addresses this public health and HUMAN crisis!

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Just make sure that funding for other services is not cut in lieu of social prescibing - traditional and social prescribing go hand in hand. Let the medical experts dictate where funding should go based on clinical efficacy

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Just make sure that funding for other services is not cut in lieu of social prescibing - traditional and social prescribing go hand in hand. Let the medical experts dictate where funding should go based on clinical efficacy

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But, AdamJSMitchell , it is highly likely that it will be used to replace vital medical referals and treatment. Especially as GPs seem to have been urged to reduce referals for outpatient tests and investigations, and treatment. 

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But, AdamJSMitchell , it is highly likely that it will be used to replace vital medical referals and treatment. Especially as GPs seem to have been urged to reduce referals for outpatient tests and investigations, and treatment. 

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We are a company specialising in this for the LGBTQ community. Research shows that having a connection to your local community increases wellbeing and mental health outcomes by 2-3x. We're aiming to improve the overall wellness of lgbtq+...

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We are a company specialising in this for the LGBTQ community. Research shows that having a connection to your local community increases wellbeing and mental health outcomes by 2-3x. We're aiming to improve the overall wellness of lgbtq+ people by connecting them with local community activities and clubs. We believe that this is an essential service that's difficult for community members so we're building a platform for that reason at www.squad.social

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This is a brilliant idea and is just a shame that so many people seem to be unable to find these activities/solutions for themselves. Hopefully it will be that small community groups receive funding to help them provide these services. Just...

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This is a brilliant idea and is just a shame that so many people seem to be unable to find these activities/solutions for themselves. Hopefully it will be that small community groups receive funding to help them provide these services. Just as long as this is not supposed to be an alternative to the health service providing the mental health services that people need 

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It is indeed an alternative to the NHS providing the mental health services that people need, and to the provision of many other essential medical services. 

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It is indeed an alternative to the NHS providing the mental health services that people need, and to the provision of many other essential medical services. 

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I recall speaking to,people about the concept of what is now referred to as SP back in the late 1990s. The idea, in today’s market, can be cheaply delivered. A couple of years ago in my area we had a Beat the Streets initiative which got...

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I recall speaking to,people about the concept of what is now referred to as SP back in the late 1990s. The idea, in today’s market, can be cheaply delivered. A couple of years ago in my area we had a Beat the Streets initiative which got people out walking; a chance to meet people (combating isolation and loneliness) whilst getting essential exercise. Certainly my local Council and NHS services have for some time have promoted many opportunities which can be classified as social prescribing. 

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I haven't heard of it as a concept but I feel it's what I've been involved in by proxy

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I haven't heard of it as a concept but I feel it's what I've been involved in by proxy

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This is a good idea but, for those who seek it out, Bexley has been helping for years especially with loneliness. Libraries in the borough are warm and have groups which anyone can join such as sewing, scrabble, conversation and generally...

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This is a good idea but, for those who seek it out, Bexley has been helping for years especially with loneliness. Libraries in the borough are warm and have groups which anyone can join such as sewing, scrabble, conversation and generally the libraries are close to public transport. There is Dial a Ride for the less able to reach places like that and if you are a library member access to the internet is free.

For older people with Freedom Passes the buses are great to travel on as well as trains ( after 9.30a.m.). Once you reach the edge of London you can use non London buses after 9.30a.m. too. I can recommend a bus (431) from Orpington High Street to Sevenoaks. It is a non London bus and limited service but if you catch the 10.30 bus it arrives to Sevenoaks by 11.45a.m. and as long as you plan your return the 13.30 bus will take you back to Orpington. It's a lovely ride in the country and you can stroll round Sevenoaks and even visit Knole park. Just remember to check the return time. There are more buses than I have suggested but those times work for us. 

Look to see if you have parks to visit if you are mobile. Having said that, Footscray Meadows has a tarmac path so a wheelchair could use it. Just get out if you are able and you will find that there are people to talk to even if you just smile and say 'Hello'. Or perhaps 'It's a lovely day'.

Also, don't forget that there are many free museums to visit. Have a go and get out there if you can.

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Social Prescribing: I had not heard of the term until now. Matching services to people, or people to services - I think such initiatives have existed before now. If it can be made to work, whereby, we, already overburdened Londoners, are...

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Social Prescribing: I had not heard of the term until now. Matching services to people, or people to services - I think such initiatives have existed before now. If it can be made to work, whereby, we, already overburdened Londoners, are not further saddled with the cost of funding it, all well and good.

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I'm not a health profressional, but I've seen evidence where social prescribing works well in numerous cases (plenty from London, Sussex, and new models in Manchester, Scotland). I have spoken with GPs who find this non-medical wellbeing...

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I'm not a health profressional, but I've seen evidence where social prescribing works well in numerous cases (plenty from London, Sussex, and new models in Manchester, Scotland). I have spoken with GPs who find this non-medical wellbeing support invaluable for their patients - many of whom are housebound, frail, have dementia, trauma, or are in end of life care.

When it works, it builds the patient's knowledge, confidence, and commitment to look after their own health and wellbeing more effectively, plus access new networks of people and support in their communities. This has reduced the need to visit GPs as frequently, and can have a preventive outcome for A & E and hospital episodes. And even where a patient is terminally ill and on SP, they still value the service as meaningful and deeply worthwhile for them. I'm not sure whether it matters whether its a lefty idea or not? 

SP is not a magic bullet, there are many diverse services, and not all of them are effective (just like hospitals and GP clinics) - but it will be a powerful, innovative weapon in our collective arsenal when tackling an ageing population and dual pressures of dementia and diabetes.

I think it makes sense if the current funding pays for services that tap into extra care capacity that is already there, which frontline health professionals don't have, on wellbeing issues they aren't necessarily even trained in, but many VCS groups are accredited to provide.

Key challenges include ensuring quality standards don't slip, and contract collaborations are managed well between health, social care, and VCS groups. Medication doesn't alway work, and yet individuals can respond differently to a range of alternative tested interventions in a sustainable way - all the better if it brings together communities and reduces stigma. 

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I don't think the NHS should be paying for 'social prescribing' services as it seems to be taking funding away from essential medical services. Where I live it has been 'prescribed' as an unhelpful alternative to much-needed professional...

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I don't think the NHS should be paying for 'social prescribing' services as it seems to be taking funding away from essential medical services. Where I live it has been 'prescribed' as an unhelpful alternative to much-needed professional medical assistance at an NHS outpatients clinic, thus making the health problem worse. The contract that this particular unhelpful alternative has with the NHS or whoever is just a way of getting money for old rope at the taxpayers expense.   Tap ino extra care capacity that is already there?  Is it? And I don't see that it is innovative - GPs have been advising patients to exercise, change their diet, go out and get involved with people and activities, for ever. And GP surgeries have always been one of the places that have plenty of leaflets about local support groups (as in NHS hospital clinics).  National and local government has for decades been undermining both community and the affordability of very many wellbeing activities, as well as failing to protect green areas and provide new urban parks.  We don't need social prescribing, we need to provide strong underpinning for communities to thrive, and subsidies for group activities, classes and exercise opportunities. 

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My question is about financing it. It's brilliant to direct patient for social activities but do NHS pay for those activities? How often will it be misused? For example, someone wants to learn art, goes to GP and gets art classes for free...

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My question is about financing it. It's brilliant to direct patient for social activities but do NHS pay for those activities? How often will it be misused? For example, someone wants to learn art, goes to GP and gets art classes for free. Is it how it works in reality?

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Hi Pukpuk and thanks for your comment. The majority of activities that the social prescriber(or link-worker) refers someone to are free to them to attend, for example exercise or gardening clubs. Others may make a small charge (for materials) for example. Many social prescribing projects are funded by the NHS, local authority or charities to provide services.   

What sort of health, wellbeing and social conditions and issues do you think might benefit the most from a social prescribing approach?

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Depresion, anxiety, luck of confindence.

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Depresion, anxiety, luck of confindence.

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I believe that social prescribing should include a way to help us better understand how our social system works.

To meet this end i have written and seen published a book on macroeconomics. (Write to me at [email protected] for a free...

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I believe that social prescribing should include a way to help us better understand how our social system works.

To meet this end i have written and seen published a book on macroeconomics. (Write to me at [email protected] for a free e-copy of this 310 page "Consequential Macroeconomics", and find out how the confusion currently being taught in universities can be eliminated.)

This important knowledge is presented in a way that will allow students, teachers and researchers to examine the effect of making a single change on what is taken as being a stable system that is in equilibrium. These assumptions allow one to investigate it--if we were to represent all of the variations at once, the present state of confusion would still be there. Policy changes can thus be examined as if each was independent, although in practice many things do change simultaneously.

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never heard of it, but i think it is a great idea for those who are isolated and lonely

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never heard of it, but i think it is a great idea for those who are isolated and lonely

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The NHS website says:

Social prescribing involves helping patients to improve their health, wellbeing and social welfare by connecting them to community services which might be run by the council or a local charity. For example...

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The NHS website says:

Social prescribing involves helping patients to improve their health, wellbeing and social welfare by connecting them to community services which might be run by the council or a local charity. For example, signposting people who have been diagnosed with dementia to local dementia support groups.

It should not be used as an excuse not to offer proper diagnosis and medical treatment, but I suspect that this is what will happen in many cases, as GPs have been urged to cut down on the numbers of outpatient and tests referals they make. 

There is so much going on for people to get involved with - people used to have libraries and community centres where the information was all available.  As we have so few of those now, it is essential to locate the information where people will see it. GP surgeries are a good place for this, and most do have plenty of leaflets on support groups and local sports activities groups. 

Fine, get the information to where it needs to be. But don't have GPs 'socially prescribing'.  For one thing, it is downright offensive. 

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It sounds like a great idea. Perhaps you could also prescribe places/ people where volunteers/ the fit retired could help out.

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It sounds like a great idea. Perhaps you could also prescribe places/ people where volunteers/ the fit retired could help out.

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I have heard of Social Prescribing. So have the 6% of Londoners who told a recent YouGov survey, for the London National Park City movement, that they have experienced social prescribing.

It helps people with both physical and mentail...

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I have heard of Social Prescribing. So have the 6% of Londoners who told a recent YouGov survey, for the London National Park City movement, that they have experienced social prescribing.

It helps people with both physical and mentail conditions. The GP's who agreed to trial it have welcomed the positive impacts and are prescribing less medicine. 

Beth Collier is a nature based Psychtherapist who established the Nature Therapy School in 2015 and runs sessions in the SE24 area of London. She is one of many people now proving that we can boost our health by being more active outdoors or engaging with others in our communities. With more people now living in urban environments rather than rural ones, the importance of good quality, accesible green space has never been higher. The good news is that the more we create, the healthier and happier our populations become.

Bring on more social prescribing; to help make London greener, healthier and wilder.

 

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The health benefits of the natural green environment are now well-researched, but you don't need people running sessions. You just fight to increase the quantity and quality of natural environment in the UK and in cities and towns...

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The health benefits of the natural green environment are now well-researched, but you don't need people running sessions. You just fight to increase the quantity and quality of natural environment in the UK and in cities and towns (volunteering, social engagment, skills development, exercise by marching and placard-waving), and get out in it. One major problem for communities is that the fundamental conditions for community interactions in towns and cities are being planned and developed out of existence. Local communities need to be given much more protection in the planning process, and in local government policies. It should be borne in mind though that while the natural environment and social interaction can help alleviate some problems, this can often only help to a certain degree.  This 'social prescribing' should not be about GP services - rather it should be a way of ensuring that everyone has access to information on what is available to them locally. GP funds should go on the necessary medical treatments. 

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The more you read about it, the more it makes sense. It's about people supporting each other & sharing their expertise & skills. Surely, that's that's what living in a community is all about.

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The more you read about it, the more it makes sense. It's about people supporting each other & sharing their expertise & skills. Surely, that's that's what living in a community is all about.

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I developed the My Guide service for Guide Dogs, which was part of the trial of social prescribing in Rotherham in 2015. It was hugely successful, reducing depression and increasing fitness amongst people with sight loss by matching them...

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I developed the My Guide service for Guide Dogs, which was part of the trial of social prescribing in Rotherham in 2015. It was hugely successful, reducing depression and increasing fitness amongst people with sight loss by matching them with a trained volunteer who helped them to get out and about to do the things that they wanted to do.

The volunteers also reported increased feelings of well being and involvement.

However, it must be remembered that there are costs involved in running voluntary schemes like this (training, safeguarding and ongoing support for both volunteers and service users). This isn't just a way of saving money. We could only run the scheme in Rotherham because of People's Postcode Lottery funding

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I haven't sounds read it all but it sounds like a good idea.

Tackling loneliness, especially those in retirement years, is key to people's mental health.

A few examples of what is already being done is walking football, to tackle fitness...

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I haven't sounds read it all but it sounds like a good idea.

Tackling loneliness, especially those in retirement years, is key to people's mental health.

A few examples of what is already being done is walking football, to tackle fitness, and singing for those with asthma, which helps your breathing.

Will be interested in seeing how this progresses.

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But all this is out there already. It should not be socially prescribed by GPs - just another way of denying people the medical help they need. 

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But all this is out there already. It should not be socially prescribed by GPs - just another way of denying people the medical help they need. 

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I think it's a wonderful idea and I hope it will take off.

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I think it's a wonderful idea and I hope it will take off.

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I've begun to see social prescribing across LB Redbridge and it looks very promising

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I've begun to see social prescribing across LB Redbridge and it looks very promising

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