London Environment Strategy consultation
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1217 Londoners have responded | 26/07/2017 - 17/11/2017

London is a bustling city. This is part of what makes London such an attractive place, but also what makes it a noisy place. Night time activities like pubs, restaurants and clubs, and the people using these make noise. Would you say London is vibrant or noisy? And why?
The discussion ran from 10 August 2017 - 10 November 2017
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Community Member 7 years agoLondon is not too bad for noise but my neighbours think every night is woodstock.
Show full commentLondon is not too bad for noise but my neighbours think every night is woodstock.
Show less of commentJames06henry
Community Member 7 years agoI agree with your point (y)
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Official Representative 7 years agoIt’s exactly one year since the Mayor of London appointed Amy Lamé as London’s first Night Czar, charged with championing London’s £26 billion night-time economy.
Here are some highlights from her first year: https://www.london.gov.uk/city-hall-blog/top-7-things-night-czars-done-…
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Community Member 7 years agoLondon and several other UK cities suffer from the worst use of public service sirens in the world.
I have visited major US and European cities and they severely curtail their siren use.
Screecher/piercers are only allowed or used on the...
Show full commentLondon and several other UK cities suffer from the worst use of public service sirens in the world.
I have visited major US and European cities and they severely curtail their siren use.
Screecher/piercers are only allowed or used on the motorway/highways.
In London the ambulance and police are fitted with 'piercers' and do very little to limit their use in a close, urban setting. Despite having the ability to adjust them - for volume or even tone - they simply don't. The result is we can hear these sirens up to half a mile away, and if they pass by there is no escape as the sound penetrates building walls.
Offices and homes are blighted by this constant blare, which is loud enough to stop talking and interrupt thought, sleep and living.
The drivers keep claiming, near junctions, they need to warn pedestrians. If this is so, why do they use a siren designed to penetrate for drivers in cars with the radio on?
The sirens also blare constantly near to ambulance depots and this is a constant source of stress for neighbours.
On weekends London sounds like a war zone, and the problem is worsened by the cars using sirens whenever they exceed 20mph in Camden, or when 'transferring' patients - sometimes for 10-20 minutes traversing Finchley Road north-south. It is a complete disgrace.
The key point is that other UK cities and even police in Camden regularly go to silent light or use softer tones which don't have the stressing effects of piercer - and it's just as effective for safety.
The ambulances are there to protect health but instead are destroying it with their constant bombardment of the city with constant noise never designed for it.
The strategy needs to include dealing with this issue!
Show less of commentDeborahG
Community Member 7 years agoThe noise produced from motorcycles is extremely loud, especially if they have 'souped up' engines or speed in excess of the speed limit along busy roads. If busy main roads are close to residential housing - as so many are in London - then...
Show full commentThe noise produced from motorcycles is extremely loud, especially if they have 'souped up' engines or speed in excess of the speed limit along busy roads. If busy main roads are close to residential housing - as so many are in London - then the speed limit should be 20-30 mph. Something should be done about the noise from motorbikes which are excessively noisy. Absorbers to reduce to noise from engines so people inside their homes aren't bombarded with noise every time a motorbike or groups of motorcyclists go by. At night time especially, the noise pollution from them can keep people awake or disturb their sleep.
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Community Member 7 years agoI have just read the vision for 24 hour London, and it's good and I support. It's light on detail, but a vision should be. But I wonder if others have views about the rickshaws? I strongly object to them being on our streets. It's visceral...
Show full commentI have just read the vision for 24 hour London, and it's good and I support. It's light on detail, but a vision should be. But I wonder if others have views about the rickshaws? I strongly object to them being on our streets. It's visceral and they provoke such strong feelings in me. It's mostly because I think they rip off tourists, who might think they have something to do with 'London'. I guess it's dodgy business interests behind it; I hate that they hawk for business; they get in the way; and seem to serve no purpose. God knows I'm not defending the black cab trade but at least it's ordered. Am I irrational and need to chill? Or does anyone else feel the same?
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Community Member 7 years agoThe Police Helicopters should be required to meet a prior agreed regulation that their helicopter may only hover for more than two minutes and if they do need to hover for any length of time more than one minute in the fight against crime...
Show full commentThe Police Helicopters should be required to meet a prior agreed regulation that their helicopter may only hover for more than two minutes and if they do need to hover for any length of time more than one minute in the fight against crime the helicopter should be required to be higher height. The excessive noise would be mitigated if the helicopter was required to hover at say 2,000 feet.
Show less of commentDeborahG
Community Member 7 years agoI agree.
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Community Member 7 years agoNight life is essential to making London a vibrant place to live and should not be restricted. Certain areas are clearly very residential and it should not be allowed there at all, but in some neighborhoods (e.g. Shoreditch, Soho, Covent...
Show full commentNight life is essential to making London a vibrant place to live and should not be restricted. Certain areas are clearly very residential and it should not be allowed there at all, but in some neighborhoods (e.g. Shoreditch, Soho, Covent Garden) and on high streets and lively squares, it should not be restricted. I believe designating specific neighborhoods and spots for entertainment/night life (this does not need to be in every neighborhood of course) would help concentrate the noise there and not have it spill out to quieter residential areas. Noise on high streets is to be expected anyway, traffic noise and pollution is much more of a problem there already and people who live directly on high streets cannot claim they did not sign up for that. I do agree however that noise should be reduced starting from 1 block away from high streets. It's also a matter of giving people enough information on what the policies and zones are so they can make an informed decision when renting/purchasing property (not find out after they've moved in).
Show less of commentBy the way, the night life in London still pales in comparison to many other global capitals/cities like New York, but it has gotten a little better over the past 2-3 years.
pukpuk
Community Member 7 years agoIt's both noisy and vibrant. Vibrant when you go out, noisy when you stay in.
I wouldn't like leaving near high street and it's a choice. Don't moan if you've chosen to. It's good to be able to have night life.
BruceLee44
Community Member 7 years agoVibrant, keep it vibrant
reduce traffic noise by mandating electric buses now! electric buses are already cost effective over their lifetime costs and would dramatically improve London noise.
Cam
Community Member 7 years agoSirens are far too loud. They do not need to be nearly as loud to be effective. Louder is not better or more effective, it is simply more annoying. Fire trucks, police and ambulances are all too loud, and very frequent at my intersection...
Show full commentSirens are far too loud. They do not need to be nearly as loud to be effective. Louder is not better or more effective, it is simply more annoying. Fire trucks, police and ambulances are all too loud, and very frequent at my intersection. Also honking horns is annoying.
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Community Member 7 years agoThe most annoying noise lately is from the police and ambulance. What is going on? Everywhere you go around London, this is pretty much all you hear, day and night. It is awful even tourists are asking if it is normal. You do not hear as...
Show full commentThe most annoying noise lately is from the police and ambulance. What is going on? Everywhere you go around London, this is pretty much all you hear, day and night. It is awful even tourists are asking if it is normal. You do not hear as much in NYC in the USA. Often many times they do not necessarily need the sirens on and they are super loud. 2am, very obtrusive and unnecessary. Also who is giving permission for helicopters to hover over residential areas in Newham at 10-11pm at night? I get that maybe there is an even at the Olympic stadium but there are plenty of other places over the QE park that aren't residential where the helicopter can hover. There is no consideration for people down below.
Show less of commentJon889
Community Member 7 years agoPeople living in central London, or around stations and high streets should expect noise. Restricting hours on licenses can be too strict
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Community Member 7 years agoBoroughs, especially Westminster, are far too restrictive on licensing hours. 99.99% of pubs still have to shut at 23.00 hrs. Call ourselves a world city? A 24 hr city? I don't think so. Go to New York, Berlin, Paris, even Brighton and...
Show full commentBoroughs, especially Westminster, are far too restrictive on licensing hours. 99.99% of pubs still have to shut at 23.00 hrs. Call ourselves a world city? A 24 hr city? I don't think so. Go to New York, Berlin, Paris, even Brighton and Edinburgh - you won't find the pubs there having such restrictive licensing hours. I know there are plenty of clubs to go to. But I'm over 60. My clubbing days are long gone, but I still don't want to be sent home at 23:00. Also, distinct lack of live music all over London.
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