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We, London Fire Brigade, are proposing to make some changes to the way we work so that our services are more responsive to local needs and so we can adapt to the ever-changing needs of our city.  

After responding to our consultation about our Community Risk Management Plan, is there anything else you want to add? Have we missed anything critical from our approach? What suggestions, concerns or worries do you have?

Please let us know in the discussion below, co-moderated by Talk London and London Fire Brigade.

The discussion ran from 02 September 2021 - 10 October 2021

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Last questions about sexuality / religion ... Is that really needed ?

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Landlords who won't replace faulty fire alarms!

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I worry that consultations like this on a subject of this importance might result in dumbing down. The Fire brigade has one primary service, the clue is in the name. That is what it must do well.

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"Is your gender the gender you were assigned at birth?" Facepalm.

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"Is your gender the gender you were assigned at birth?" Facepalm.

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I know... this is incredibly ignorant. 'Gender' - whatever they mean by that - is not 'assigned at birth': sex is observed and recorded and is immutable.

So is "What is your gender?" with options 'Man', 'Woman' and 'Other'. And they don't...

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I know... this is incredibly ignorant. 'Gender' - whatever they mean by that - is not 'assigned at birth': sex is observed and recorded and is immutable.

So is "What is your gender?" with options 'Man', 'Woman' and 'Other'. And they don't ask for the sex of the person providing their views, which is surely far more important and one of the nine protected characteristics under the Equality Act 2010. 'Gender' is not one of them.

'Gender' and similar terms rely on demeaning, regressive stereotypical notions of societal roles for the two sexes, concepts with which I'm sure they would not wish to be associated and concepts that, if relied upon, might compromise their Public Sector Equality Duty.

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Developers whose buildings require specialised equipment eg high rise requiring the highest reach appliances should be required to pay for the purchase of each appliance that would be required at their site. Most of these are probably...

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Developers whose buildings require specialised equipment eg high rise requiring the highest reach appliances should be required to pay for the purchase of each appliance that would be required at their site. Most of these are probably sitting around doing nothing for the majority of the time and because there are so few and spread out the response time is too long when required and the money would be better spent elsewhere e.g prevention and inspections.

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I totally agree that the LTNs and cycle lanes (which are definitely excessive) need to go to make London (- the London suburbs, at least) safe again by not impeding LFB vehicles (and LAS ambulances) ,

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I don't agree. Clearly LTNs and cycle lanes make it harder. But equally clearly personal motor traffic must reduce and cycles must be part of that

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Please get rid of these cycle lanes and posts - they are dangerous and create traffic and pollution. And fine the cyclists who use the pavements as their private roads - I have had a few near misses where the cyclists nearly run me over...

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Please get rid of these cycle lanes and posts - they are dangerous and create traffic and pollution. And fine the cyclists who use the pavements as their private roads - I have had a few near misses where the cyclists nearly run me over while I was walking on the pavement.

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How do cycle lanes "create traffic"?
Traffic is created by people deciding to drive motor vehicles when, in many cases, they could use alternative transport methods.

Thousands of people are killed and seriously injured by motor vehicles...

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How do cycle lanes "create traffic"?
Traffic is created by people deciding to drive motor vehicles when, in many cases, they could use alternative transport methods.

Thousands of people are killed and seriously injured by motor vehicles every year, yet you complain about cyclists?

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Main concerns are the TFL restrictions (Cycle lanes) which restrict all emergency vehicles from getting through to people in-need.

Unsafe cladding that is still left on many buildings

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Main concerns are the TFL restrictions (Cycle lanes) which restrict all emergency vehicles from getting through to people in-need.

Unsafe cladding that is still left on many buildings

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I totally agree, the road closures are an additional hazard for all the emergency services

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I totally agree, the road closures are an additional hazard for all the emergency services

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Until ltn’s are scrapped the fire brigade will struggle to get to people in need unless the can use cycle lanes the remain empty most of the day

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Until ltn’s are scrapped the fire brigade will struggle to get to people in need unless the can use cycle lanes the remain empty most of the day

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Why do you need to know whether I was born a woman, am homosexual or not, whether i am married, ? Does that really alter the reception that my survey answers get?
I answered them all, but really is it right and proper that some...

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Why do you need to know whether I was born a woman, am homosexual or not, whether i am married, ? Does that really alter the reception that my survey answers get?
I answered them all, but really is it right and proper that some anonymous computer has me down as I answered ? What would happen if I had said I was a muslim homosexual transgender living in a squat ? Would my comments be more important ?

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It’s a question that appears in all these surveys now. I always look at it as the tick box part so they can show that all society was included regardless of sex, religion class or sexual preference If people find it offensive use the...

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It’s a question that appears in all these surveys now. I always look at it as the tick box part so they can show that all society was included regardless of sex, religion class or sexual preference If people find it offensive use the prefer not to say option but it’s better be honest and show your representation

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It's supposed to enable them to measure whether they are meeting their Public Sector Equality Duty under the Equality Act 2010 in terms of gathering views from all sections of society - but they can only do that if they properly collect...

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It's supposed to enable them to measure whether they are meeting their Public Sector Equality Duty under the Equality Act 2010 in terms of gathering views from all sections of society - but they can only do that if they properly collect data on the protected characteristics under the Act, something they have failed to do.

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Trying to do your job quickly & efficiently with the unwanted road restrictions (LTNs) being introduced across London without proper Impact Assessments being done by single minded councils is a disgrace. Please know the majority of the...

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Trying to do your job quickly & efficiently with the unwanted road restrictions (LTNs) being introduced across London without proper Impact Assessments being done by single minded councils is a disgrace. Please know the majority of the public support you and want these ludicrous schemes ripped out for the safety of all!

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There are many disabled and/or elderly people living in their own homes nowadays who would benefit from help and advice with fire and flood safety (depending on where they live).

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It's more than time that the London Fire Brigade got the credit for the amazing job they do, day in, day out, against ever-increasing odds.

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Provision for mobility or communication impaired residents. Could affect the ability to request assistance, report an immediate threat, and evacuation in an emergency.

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One of the questions towards the end of the survey asked if I had any medical or physical health issues but did not expand on this by asking for relevant details. For example, my wife has serious mobility problems which could cause...

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One of the questions towards the end of the survey asked if I had any medical or physical health issues but did not expand on this by asking for relevant details. For example, my wife has serious mobility problems which could cause problems in an emergency!

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The Fire Brigade is an essential service - it must be funded properly. Councils should play a greater role in ensuring all housing is as safe as possible by monitoring property owners' safety management better.

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Please differentiate in your questions about residential status. I used to believe I was a home owner but this is not true. I am a leaseholder.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN CONSIDERING FIRE RISK.

You had no option to identify...

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Please differentiate in your questions about residential status. I used to believe I was a home owner but this is not true. I am a leaseholder.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN CONSIDERING FIRE RISK.

You had no option to identify a person as a leaseholder. Leaseholders do not own outright as your choice describes, whether or not they have a mortgage.
Our buildings, their external walls, roof and communal spaces belong to the freeholder and are manged by a management company .
We have little say regarding fire safety measures, we just have to pay their bills!

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It would be good for all if common sense was used instead of self interest or protectionism.

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It would be good for all if common sense was used instead of self interest or protectionism.

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