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Sunday 22 September 2019 was World Car Free Day. A large area of central London was closed off for free, outdoor activities and many boroughs were organising activities too. Londoners could request a Play Street from their local council, and close their streets for their own community events.
Did you take part in Car Free Day this year, why or why not? What was your experience? And did you apply for a Play Street?
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Community Member 6 years agoFor those who say 'ban lorries in Central London', I suppose you do not live in Central London. Or you do not shop there. How are supermarkets supposed to be stacked? In small vans? How many small vans will be needed instead of a lorry?
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Show full commentFor those who say 'ban lorries in Central London', I suppose you do not live in Central London. Or you do not shop there. How are supermarkets supposed to be stacked? In small vans? How many small vans will be needed instead of a lorry?
How are any shop supposed to have their deliveries? Are you going to pay a premium because people will have to work at night for deliveries? Have you ever worked in retail to have any idea on how it works?
Do you ever shop on the Internet? Maybe you should stop because that Amazon delivery is not especially good for the environment.
We will soon have the cycle race again. That is always a headache to go anywhere that day. Notting Hill carnival is also a headache. It takes my daughter an extra 1/2 hour to go to work as buses routes are amended.
O joy for all those who work on weekends so that you have the choice to go out either shopping or enjoying yourself.
Show less of commentAnonymous - account deleted
Community Member 6 years agoOne effective and thought provokative way to make the most of the event would be to apply some tactical urbanism principles in the space usually occupied by the cars. I'd like to see temporary cyclehoop sheds, parklets such as the Fitzpark...
Show full commentOne effective and thought provokative way to make the most of the event would be to apply some tactical urbanism principles in the space usually occupied by the cars. I'd like to see temporary cyclehoop sheds, parklets such as the Fitzpark in Fritzrovia, pop up protected bike lanes in where the cars usually park.
The car free day could be considered as a test to help the local community make its mind on how they prefer to have their local space allocated: edge of the kerb for car parkings, public space to provide people-friendly uses, bike lanes to allow clean forms of mobility?
Show less of commentAllt.Banon
Community Member 6 years agoIt's a decent idea in principle but choosing a Sunday for it is just ridiculous. It is the day when there is the least public transport. Hundreds of thousands of people won't even notice it but for the elderly in particular it will be...
Show full commentIt's a decent idea in principle but choosing a Sunday for it is just ridiculous. It is the day when there is the least public transport. Hundreds of thousands of people won't even notice it but for the elderly in particular it will be very inconvenient. A meaningful car free day is one that takes cars off the road when the city is busy, the public transport at its best and when it makes its point to the maximum number of people instead of this gesturism.
With the reasoning behind this Sunday plan a good idea would be a car free hour every Wednesday morning between 3:00am and 4:00am - I can see it now - 'Mayor gives London 52 car free hours a year to fight climate change'. Yawn.
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Official Representative 6 years agoHi Allt.Banon. Thanks for sharing your views and suggestions in this discussion.
The events take place on a Sunday to coincide with World Car Free Day, celebrated around the world on 22 September. A successful London event will help demonstate that encouraging walking, cycling and using public transport is the way to tackle car dependency, traffic pollution and congestion.
Will you take part this year? What kind of events or activities would you like to see in your local area or in the car free zone in Central London?
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christianp
Community Member 6 years agoFantastic idea. Wish every day was a car free day in London. Then my two little kids, my wife and I wouldn't have ot breath toxic fumes on a daily basis. Nor would we have to listen to loud motor sounds.
My recommendations for this day are...
Show full commentFantastic idea. Wish every day was a car free day in London. Then my two little kids, my wife and I wouldn't have ot breath toxic fumes on a daily basis. Nor would we have to listen to loud motor sounds.
My recommendations for this day are
- Enoucrage neighborhood street parties and get togethers
- Biking clinics and sessions on alternative transportation
- City bike tours
- Talks about the environment and climate change
- A city-wide survey to understand how much more pleasant people find London without traffic
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Official Representative 6 years agoThanks for sharing Christianp!
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Community Member 6 years agoI think it's a great idea - I'd like to see this happening more frequently.
Show full commentI think it's a great idea - I'd like to see this happening more frequently.
Show less of commentCatherine Budg…
Community Member 6 years agoI think this is an important initiative but I fear that there will be so many who claim 'immunity' and will do all they can to get around it.
Are you suggesting no vehicles, or just no private cars?
I am shocked at how many cars with one...
Show full commentI think this is an important initiative but I fear that there will be so many who claim 'immunity' and will do all they can to get around it.
Are you suggesting no vehicles, or just no private cars?
I am shocked at how many cars with one driver that come up the rat run just by my house every evening.
Lorries, vans, taxis?? would they be exempt?
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Official Representative 6 years agoHi Catherine and thanks for taking part in this discussion.
Here's the latest info from our policy team on road access to the event in central London on Car Free Day:
- There will be no taxis or PHVs allowed in the Reimagine event area. We are encouraging visitors to travel by walking, cycling and public transport wherever possible. Taxi drop-off zones will be available to access the event. Resident access will be maintained.
- East/west vehicle movement along Lower Thames Street will be allowed to minimise wider disruption. Buses will continue to run in both directions over London Bridge and along Bishopsgate.
- We are working with stakeholders on the details of traffic management plans for the day – including restrictions on freight access - and these will be made available well in advance of the event.
- Emergency access for blue light services is part of the traffic management planning process.
We hope this helps. Will you be taking part this year, why or why not?
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Luigi
Community Member 6 years agoI agree it is a good idea in principle, however, you must give a viable alternative (not by stealth, to make it work) for those who need to travel on the proposed car free day. Can I suggest you give free travel on all Buses and Tubes (on...
Show full commentI agree it is a good idea in principle, however, you must give a viable alternative (not by stealth, to make it work) for those who need to travel on the proposed car free day. Can I suggest you give free travel on all Buses and Tubes (on the car free day) that will show willingness for both parties.
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Community Member 6 years agoHaving a car free day is excellent ... I enjoy it very much. And it is very good that Sadiq Khan is extending it this year.
I would like certain areas to be permanently car-free - for example the whole of Soho, Oxford Street, Regent...
Show full commentHaving a car free day is excellent ... I enjoy it very much. And it is very good that Sadiq Khan is extending it this year.
I would like certain areas to be permanently car-free - for example the whole of Soho, Oxford Street, Regent Street. Access would be permitted for emergency vehicles, delivery vehicles (delivering goods to the shops within the precinct), and residents vehicles. There should be only one entry and exit point to prevent residents using the interior as a through route.
London is far behind other UK cities - for example Cambridge, Birmingham, Glasgow - in having pedestrianises areas, nevermind certain other European cities.
There need to be more measures taken to promote walking, cycling and public transport; and heavier financial disincentives placed on motor vehicles - for example much higher congestion charge, wider area covered by the congestion charge, fewer parking spaces, and higher parking charges. Any revenue raised could be used to improve public transport - either by lowering fares, or by extending the routes.
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Community Member 6 years agoI think this is a brilliant idea. I know that lots of people need to be able to drive but anything that encourages people to drive less has to be a good thing. However, having one day isn't enough. I know there's been the tax on some...
Show full commentI think this is a brilliant idea. I know that lots of people need to be able to drive but anything that encourages people to drive less has to be a good thing. However, having one day isn't enough. I know there's been the tax on some vehicles that's been brought in but so much more needs to be done to reduce emissions and to make the air we breath healthier.
Also, can we try and have an all vehicle free day. In terms of safety, I feel more threatened by push bikes these days. I know the majority follow the rules of the road but there seems to be an ever growing section who don't.
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Community Member 6 years agoThere is a gentler way to get people to use cars less and be happlier. It relies on the idea that if you can easily use a car club, you can make a better decision about whether to use public transport or go by car.
At the moment, car clubs...
Show full commentThere is a gentler way to get people to use cars less and be happlier. It relies on the idea that if you can easily use a car club, you can make a better decision about whether to use public transport or go by car.
At the moment, car clubs like Enterprise and Zipcar are limited by their own costs and prices to customers, and by the number of free parking permits or car club bays they get from councils. At the same time, cars rented via Hiyacar.co.uk Drivy.co.uk or Turo.com tend to have lower costs. They are often rented-out part time and always managed part-time by someone who happens to live nearby.
I suggest that a council - I don't know which one - offers a discount on parking permits in proportion to proven rent-outs of a car in the previous year. So if a car is rented-out a lot, on the same scale as Zipcar, then the owner gets a 100% rebate and a sliding scale down from there to zero rebate. In order to qualify for a rebate, owners would need an easy way of proving the number of rentals which would probably be a calander sychronisation service like carysnc.io that shows past hires on more than one service. I have tried a very tentative version of this on Richmond Council where I live, and got a reply saying that at the moment they only grant car club bays to Zipcar and Enterprise. They would prefer applicants who are members of a trade association. They are wary of allowing free parking permits "by the back door", so they have not considered rebates in proportion to use; they think in terms of special car club bays and 100% use for hire. This is a start.
Just to summerise: if a council somewhere could offer parking permit rebates to P2P car club car owners, there could be a lot less car use and a lot more car club cars available. All that's needed is a fair way to give the rebate.
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philcarey
Community Member 6 years agoWe must stop this simplistic demonisation of the car - they're not usually the most sensible way to get around London, but in some circumstances car use, particularly in outer London, is a perfectly legitimate form of transport - if you...
Show full commentWe must stop this simplistic demonisation of the car - they're not usually the most sensible way to get around London, but in some circumstances car use, particularly in outer London, is a perfectly legitimate form of transport - if you have mobility difficulties, have heavy luggage or work equipment, or simply if there are three or more of you in the vehicle. We certainly shouldn't be 'celebrating' taking rights away from people, even temporarily. Remember that drivers pay substantial sums for the right to use a motor vehicle, and they ought to be getting a refund in proportion to the denial of that right. The less revenue the State gets overall from driving (currently around £40bn a year for the UK as a whole, around four times what is spent on roads for us all), the more that will have to raised from other sources.
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Community Member 6 years agoAbsolutely good idea, I wish we'd get a whole lot more days like this.
Show full commentAbsolutely good idea, I wish we'd get a whole lot more days like this.
Show less of commentRDCH
Community Member 6 years agoI think this is great idea - lets do it more often throughout the year. More infrastructure for safe walking and cycling please
Show full commentI think this is great idea - lets do it more often throughout the year. More infrastructure for safe walking and cycling please
Show less of commentUberRob
Community Member 6 years agoI think this a great idea - I'm just sad it's not much more widespread and won't be anywhere near any of the roads that will be closed.
Obviously cars are needed for some proportion of society and they should be allowed to continue to use...
Show full commentI think this a great idea - I'm just sad it's not much more widespread and won't be anywhere near any of the roads that will be closed.
Obviously cars are needed for some proportion of society and they should be allowed to continue to use them - but the sheer number of vehicles I see every morning and afternoon going around with one person in them, they can't all *need* their vehicles and events that might force people to re-evaluate how they get around can only be a good thing.
More of this across a wider area please.
Show less of commentgeeminor
Community Member 6 years agoAs one of 7,000 Camden residents, living in Covent Garden, in the new ULEZ area, with a Blue Badge, we welcome the prospect of a car free day in Central London. Much of the housing here is social housing, so it will in fact be those with...
Show full commentAs one of 7,000 Camden residents, living in Covent Garden, in the new ULEZ area, with a Blue Badge, we welcome the prospect of a car free day in Central London. Much of the housing here is social housing, so it will in fact be those with less who will benefit from cleaner air and quieter safer streets for a day. The amount of cars curretnly on the streets is unsustainable. Cars and vans bumper to bumper, with idling engines, honking their horns is truly horrible when you work here, let alone live here. We are reducing our own car use and try to take accessible transport routes where possible. So many vans come into to Central London to drop and pick things up, but often it's just a letter or small part - I don't know, but perhaps that could be done without an entire van? Not an obviously practical step, but with a tiny bit of imagination perhpas possible to change? Apart from Blue Badge users with a genuine need to use their car for all journeys (we are not among this group, as we are able to use accessible public transport options for some journeys), I can't understand why any other cars need to drive into Central London. I do wonder how things can move forward so disabled people are not disadvantaged yet again though - I am sure this is being thought through, but I hope disabled people are part of the consultation on this?
I look forward to a car free day, where our children can come out and play with neighbours in the streets around our homes and we can take a walk through our neighbourhood with cleaner air.
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Community Member 6 years agoA car free day is a good idea overall to promote alternative ways of transport people forget about. I switched one leg of a bus commute to walk and it's been great.
Cycling is also another way to get around London these days but one has to...
Show full commentA car free day is a good idea overall to promote alternative ways of transport people forget about. I switched one leg of a bus commute to walk and it's been great.
Cycling is also another way to get around London these days but one has to be careful and buy insurance not to end up paying £100k lawsuit cost in case a pedestrian steps onto the road at their fault. Crazy!
Show less of commentLaurattt
Community Member 6 years agowe definitely need a car free day and much more. People have become very lazy and jump in their cars when they really don’t need to. Our air is poisonous not to mention the noise, space cars take, how they ruin a nice high street, for...
Show full commentwe definitely need a car free day and much more. People have become very lazy and jump in their cars when they really don’t need to. Our air is poisonous not to mention the noise, space cars take, how they ruin a nice high street, for instance Blackheath, Penge and Sydenham high streets just to name a few are basically noisy car parks and cars are ruining the community feel of high streets.
Perhaps this event should also be run on a weekday so that schools can take part and all the children can play out in the street.
I also think car driving is too cheap and if it were more expensive and public transport were cheaper then they may think twice about doing it.
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Community Member 6 years agoSadiq Khan dhould spend more time making traffic flow better and less time on daft schemes like thuis.
Show full commentSadiq Khan dhould spend more time making traffic flow better and less time on daft schemes like thuis.
Show less of commentHelen Hook
Community Member 6 years agoYes, I shall be taking part in this year’s World Car Free Day on 22 September. Very easy for me to do as I do not own a car, and I do not depend on a car to travel around London .
Carbfree zone events, central London
- charities with an...
Show full commentYes, I shall be taking part in this year’s World Car Free Day on 22 September. Very easy for me to do as I do not own a car, and I do not depend on a car to travel around London .
Carbfree zone events, central London
- charities with an interest in nature & the environment having stalls;
- car manufacturers showcasing electric vehicles;
- David Attenborough giving a key-note speech about Climate Change;
- one of the junior Royals present;
- air quality monitoring, so you can see the difference between the air on ‘car’ days versus the car free day;
- lots of physical activities: bikes, scooters, trampolines, bouncy castles, signs for walking routes, directions to exercise areas (such as on Victoria Embankment Gardens)
- LOTS of GOOD food
- lots, and lots, and lots, and lots of recycling bins.
Our local campaign group (SOS - Save Our Streets) is attempting to establish Play Streets, but it is proving an uphill battle with Lambeth Council.
And of course we need to ensure that ALL travellers are included in any initiative to make such a radical change in transport. Current studies provide clear evidence that traffic pollutants are now as great a danger to people’s health in London as smog was in the 1950s, with an increasing cost to the NHS. Make the air cleaner = less cost to the NHS = more taxpayers’ money available to fund step-free access, electric vehicle charging points, blue badges & cycle routes.
I have lived in central London for 27 years now. My travel time to work - using public transport - has increased from an average of 12 minutes to 43 minutes. Main feeder routes into central London from Lambeth are grid-locked twice a day for 2 hours at a time. It is the same story across London. The cost to the economy is enormous and, in the long-term, unaffordable.
Action needs to be taken before it is too late.
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Official Representative 6 years agoThanks Helen, for sharing your views and suggestions! We'll pass them on to our policy teams and to Transport for London.
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Anonymous - account deleted
Community Member 6 years agoHow do you expect people to get to church, family, friends, even work??? Don't we suffer enough traffic chaos already???
We don't all own a car. Some of us use THE BUS. The bus requires a road. If the other roads are closed, the bus...
Show full commentHow do you expect people to get to church, family, friends, even work??? Don't we suffer enough traffic chaos already???
We don't all own a car. Some of us use THE BUS. The bus requires a road. If the other roads are closed, the bus won't go anywhere.
How are we supposed to get anywhere if the train lines have engineering work and the roads are *%$*-ed up by some stupid "car free" nonsense???
The roads of south-west London are a nightmare because Hammersmith Bridge is closed. Nobody can get anywhere in the car because the traffic is so bad. If we ever needed an incentive to not use a car (or bus), we've got a big one already!
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