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Where should new homes be built to maximise the benefits for Londoners?

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In order to meet the needs of its rapidly growing population, it is estimated that London will need to build new homes at roughly double the current rate over the coming years.

What challenges do you think this poses for London? What do you think new homes need to deliver for London?

Where should new homes be built to maximise the benefits for Londoners?

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What challenges do you think this poses for London? The main challenge is to make delivery bodies efficient and to give a chance to a new innovative delivery entities. Another challenge is managing costs making them public.
What do you...

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What challenges do you think this poses for London? The main challenge is to make delivery bodies efficient and to give a chance to a new innovative delivery entities. Another challenge is managing costs making them public.
What do you think new homes need to deliver for London? new homes have to be the kind of homes where individuals and families want to live and remain for ever and not as a step towards getting the ideal home. Creating communities by this way.
Where should new homes be built to maximise the benefits for Londoners? in every single brown site available, over the sites where Housing Associations have old homes (demolishing them and building up to five levels buildings), over one main road or more in every single ward (for instance, making residential Gloucester Place in Marylebone area in London), over current tube stations.

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Make the planning process quicker and make those on planning committees more accountable when they oppose the recommendations of the councils own professional planning advisers. If they cannot give a valid reason for refusing an application...

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Make the planning process quicker and make those on planning committees more accountable when they oppose the recommendations of the councils own professional planning advisers. If they cannot give a valid reason for refusing an application when the applicant complies with council/government policy then their position on planning committees should be reviewed. I live in Barnet and in my experience planning decisions are partisan rather than voting on what is needed/allowed. Also build on brownfield sites, and allow granny flats/studios to be built in rear gardens. London is one of the greenest city's in the world and there is plenty of room for new homes.

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A critical question not asked is what other alternative courses of action. exist ? Should not the state at local and national levels be seeking to utilize the properties that already exist. In the aftermath of the Grenfell fire Jeremy...

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A critical question not asked is what other alternative courses of action. exist ? Should not the state at local and national levels be seeking to utilize the properties that already exist. In the aftermath of the Grenfell fire Jeremy Corbyn advocated the compulsory requisitioning of the many high value properties that are known to stand empty in Kensington and Chelsea. Unfortunately this a line that has not been pursued. After all, it would never do to offend the principle of private property right, would it, even when confronted by an actual emergency ??

In addition it is worth pointing out that, since the 1970's at least, there has never been a national shortage of housing. What does exist are mismatches caused by the vagaries of the market, which manifest themselves in at least two respects ie
(1).There are plenty of empty homes in the deindustrialised regions of the UK. What does not exist are the jobs to match. More particularly, the work that does exist consists predominantly of the deskilled low wage variety that makes even renting property difficult., on a long term basis.
(2) The scandal created by using housing as investment, rather than as places to live. This is a problem not limited to London. It exists in "areas of national beauty" throughout the UK, where properties have been bought as holiday homes and dried up the supply of housing to local people.

What is demanded is a redistribution of resources away from the South East such that they are redirected towards the relatively impoverished regions of the UK. Furthermore, the Labour Party should put in its banner :

"Property for social utility not private investment"

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Before we draw up plans to build more homes (not that these are not required in significant numbers), we must ensure that all existing homes are occupied. Unfortunately the neo-liberal practice of putting developers and their profits first...

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Before we draw up plans to build more homes (not that these are not required in significant numbers), we must ensure that all existing homes are occupied. Unfortunately the neo-liberal practice of putting developers and their profits first, to the detriment of Londoners on low and modest incomes - the majority - has meant that many homes are built to remain empty. Their rents are far beyond the means of most, and they end up being purchased by wealthy individuals and companies located abroad. This must end. No dwelling should remain unoccupied for more than six months. When this period has elapsed empty properties should be requisitioned by the local authority to be let out at a low rent to those on the housing waiting list. As a society we must no longer be prepared to tolerate a housing situation in which we have the obscenity of long council waiting lists of desperate people in acute housing distress, plus an ever growing toll of street homelessness whilst newly constructed and older homes stand empty.

However, we must ensure that we utilise all 'brownfield' land in London (and other cities and towns) before encroaching on the green belt, a precious resource bequeathed to us by the past which MUST be preserved for the use and benefit of present and future generations. It is truly the 'lung' of London. Part of this utilisation of 'brownfield' land must be via the re-use of public land for public purposes. e.g. council housing. Far too much public land is being lost to us forever, being quietly sold off to private developers to erect unaffordable properties. Land now available after the closure of Holloway Prison in north London should be used to build the council homes greatly needed by those on the local authority waiting list. Other prison sites in London and elsewhere should also be retained for public and community use.

I would also point out that all new homes should be safe: the tragedy of Grenfell bears this out a thousandfold.

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The main problem causing the 'housing shortage' in London is migration from abroad or from other parts of the Uk. The law of 'supply and demand' operates, so this pressure keeps house prices and rental costs rising. Building more houses and...

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The main problem causing the 'housing shortage' in London is migration from abroad or from other parts of the Uk. The law of 'supply and demand' operates, so this pressure keeps house prices and rental costs rising. Building more houses and flats does very little to make housing available to Londoners, as it just encourages more people to move to London. This is the same with all prosperous cities. Those who can afford more will occupy the available housing. The Right to Buy scheme should be ended, and newly built housing should be reserved for people who have lived in London for at least 5 years.
'Grenfeil Tower' has shown that it is not desirable to build tower block housing for safety reasons, the lack of quality of life they provide, and the fact they are nearly all very ugly and age badly,
Housing in the London surburbs should be at a much lower density and height than in the Inner London boroughs to preserve the larger gardens and greener environment that keeps them pleasant places to live.
Developers want to make a profit so do not build houses and flats to meet the housing demand, which will be properties of different sizes and styles, many with gardens, especially in the suburbs. They will build the largest number of very small units of accommodation on each site. They will build them as cheaply as possible so they are not elegantly designed, which they could be.

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Where I live, there are lots of green spaces. Set against the obvious benefits, the drawback is that this means is not the density of houses to support local shops and pubs, which means many people pollute everyone around them by driving to...

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Where I live, there are lots of green spaces. Set against the obvious benefits, the drawback is that this means is not the density of houses to support local shops and pubs, which means many people pollute everyone around them by driving to the supermarket every week. So - counter-intuitively - we end up more polluted and unhealthily reliant on our cars, because the houses are too spread out.

To my mind, having more flats and houses near our tube station will help make a viable business case for a greengrocer, butcher, fishmonger etc, leading to a thriving parade of local shops and obviating the need to drive to the supermarket. Many of my neighbours only hang on to their polluting old car for the weekly supermarket shop. They'd love the opportunity to get rid of their cars and instead walk to the shops without breathing everyone else's pollution.

Therefore to my mind, building more houses and flats in my area, as long as car use is discouraged, will actually improve the quality of life for everyone. The most important thing in my view is that they are built to be zero-carbon - i.e. properly insulated so that they do not need any heating - and that they have bike racks and an electric car sharing scheme instead of car parking spaces.

Owning a car in a city is fast becoming obsolete. Soon, cars will be driverless and a sharable asset. If I were designing housing programmes, I'd want to future-proof them.

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Thanks for all your ideas so far. The London Housing Strategy includes the following ideas for increasing the rate of housebuilding:

1. Increasing the density of new developments (e.g. by making new buildings higher or closer together)
2. Building more homes on brownfield land, including developments that mix homes and workplaces
3. Creating more homes in existing residential areas close to train stations and town centres

Do you support these proposals? How effective do you think they will be?

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What challenges do you think this poses for London?
The challenges are that we need to start turning down for-profit developers building things we don't need even though they funded our mayoral candidates.

What do you think new homes need...

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What challenges do you think this poses for London?
The challenges are that we need to start turning down for-profit developers building things we don't need even though they funded our mayoral candidates.

What do you think new homes need to deliver for London?
Genuine affordability for people on low or average salaries and proper urban design.

Where should new homes be built to maximise the benefits for Londoners?
People on average salaries use public transport so we need to use what we've got and try to improve these services. For example London Overground could run more trains than it currently does.
I think we should stop building huge office towers over the next 5 years and use all available space for homes.
The site near the olympic aquatic centre is being wasted on such developments - it has been designed with very little consultation.

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I think that growth should be sustainable. We can often see overcrowded properties that are not built for the purpose. When a state gets overcrowded, I think that is sensible to allow it to expand vertically. This expansion should be...

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I think that growth should be sustainable. We can often see overcrowded properties that are not built for the purpose. When a state gets overcrowded, I think that is sensible to allow it to expand vertically. This expansion should be followed by an increase of public infrastructures such as schools, police or hospitals. Furthermore, I think that is important that any new built gets rapidly occupied. I think that makes very little sense to build a state, where the people who are meant to be there, cannot afford to live there. Investors might buy the property but it won't help the problem. I think that wherever new homes are built, the price of these needs to represent the population who work and live in the area.

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Who do you care for first? Well it's family ain't it? As well as caring for them I would hope that you also take an interest in your neighbours' welfare. Neighbourhoods together from communities and communities coalesce into a society. Well...

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Who do you care for first? Well it's family ain't it? As well as caring for them I would hope that you also take an interest in your neighbours' welfare. Neighbourhoods together from communities and communities coalesce into a society. Well my neighbourhood on the Isle of Dogs is being devastated and strangled by rampant overdevelopment uncontrolled by Tower Hamlets council and without proper or prospective infrastructure. Mayor Khan often uses the clarion call "You are a Londoner". He seeks to represent Londoners. Well I am proud to be a Londoner but I am also an Islander [by which I mean a resident of the Isle of Dogs for 35 years; London is dumping its housing problem on us on the Isle of Dogs without solving it and we cannot take the strain. The builds are not for anything anywhere near adequate social housing but for skyscrapers with sky-high prices. Mayor Khan needs to show he understands what’s happening to us on the Island and the looming series of catastrophes that we are facing. He should come and visit us and see for himself what his policies have done. He needs to release some Mayoral CIL money to help us. The largest part of the hundreds of millions that he now has in that fund was raised here at our cost.
These issues extend beyond gentrification/manageable growth/development into a looming transport crisis and infrastructure breakdown. Tfl are already calling the situation “challenging”: a euphemism for “we are not going to be able to cope”. Thames Water can't cope now; water pressure here is a joke; mains burst often; taps run dry. Mayor Biggs says he has limited ability to act due in part to Mayor Khan's policies. Mayor Khan blames Westminster. My local MP refuses to get involved. At a recent PQT I asked Mayor Khan to come and see us on the Isle of Dogs and release some CIL money for infrastructure. He claimed not to know which particular development I was talking about, claimed he had been here several times and he diverted the CIL issue to HIF.

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2 options exist that have been successfully repeated many times in history:

- 1. Build over the railway lines, while building over stations has been discussed recently, building over the railway lines would unlock a lot more space at a...

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2 options exist that have been successfully repeated many times in history:

- 1. Build over the railway lines, while building over stations has been discussed recently, building over the railway lines would unlock a lot more space at a lower cost and is available immediately. Modern building methods and the value of housing make this viable.

- 2. Lower the roads and build over the top. Again modern building methods and the value of housing make this viable.

Both will make London quieter, open up green spaces for walking and cycling lanes, while allowing traffic to flow and pollution to be controlled.

Through planning control and the volume of housing created means that these homes can be targeted to meet the needs of all of London's social housing requirements and the needs of families and professionals alike.

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This is exactly what is being done at Twickenham Rail Station, but instead of a builing in keeping with the local area a massive block equivalent to 9 storeys is turning the town centre into little Croydon. It totally ignores all the people...

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This is exactly what is being done at Twickenham Rail Station, but instead of a builing in keeping with the local area a massive block equivalent to 9 storeys is turning the town centre into little Croydon. It totally ignores all the people living in 2 story houses that are going to have less natural light and of course the Ancient Lights privileges were part of the 1980's sweep away of old laws, just like the usary law, hello payday loans.
We should not be building "affordable homes", this appears in almost every planning application, we need social housing that enables the population to be mobile around the country, most of the Continent rents, but we have this obsession with owning to the detriment of social and privately rented housing and with landlords behaving like Peter Rackmann.

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I genuinely believe that the Government should create their own nationwide building company, with London being the ideal area to start it.

London Borough Councils already employ a number of building services engineers and facilities...

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I genuinely believe that the Government should create their own nationwide building company, with London being the ideal area to start it.

London Borough Councils already employ a number of building services engineers and facilities management to design-check and survey consultancy and contractors work, so this would be taking it one step further and cutting out the middle men so to speak.

Why spend money checking something that you can build yourself?

With Central Government running their own complete housing projects "in-house", e.g. Conceptual Studies, Design & Build, Fit-Out etc, they would save an absolute fortune.

Not only would there be a massive reduction in invoices to pay from their currently outsourced "buildings & facilities" supply chain, but there would also be a greatly reduced need to rent properties from "3rd parties" private landlords, housing associations etc.

They could get excellent discounts on materials too, as they would be sourcing in bulk, plus they would generate hundreds of jobs and could go on to create training schemes along the way.

I want to add more too about how they could sell these homes in a more affordable and safe way, but I'm running out of space, so I'll post a reply to this to add further info.

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Continued.....

The Government / Council could then offer a variety of new innovative ways for people to buy these homes, such as:

Low deposit "rent to buy" schemes: Deposit of say £5000 purely to show some commitment, then shared...

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The Government / Council could then offer a variety of new innovative ways for people to buy these homes, such as:

Low deposit "rent to buy" schemes: Deposit of say £5000 purely to show some commitment, then shared ownership (50/50 with council), with the ability to buy fully at any time or when the first half is purchased to continue with the 2nd half at the same rate.

The innovative part is with regards to minimising the amount of homeless, whilst limiting the risk to the government.

How?

Well, firstly this will allow more people to afford their own home, hopefully resulting in far less homeless in the first place, but as a safety net should a buyer fail to pay the mortgage for X amount of months, then instead of simply evicting them and seizing their home like a bank would, the government buys whatever percentage they currently own back from them.

This allows anyone that finds themselves in such an awful situation to still walk away with enough money hopefully to rent a property long enough for them to sort out their situation, instead of potentially joining the homeless.

In situations like this, the government can then simply enter a 50/50 scheme with another 1st time buyer, or, should there be a need to recoup potential losses for annual budgeting reasons, they could choose to sell any "re-purchased" homes at full market value on the private market, but NOT to overseas buyers under any circumstances.

Regardless of Government, it would be great to see banks offering these types of mortgages to a much wider audience.

E.G.:

- People who may suddenly be unable to afford their current home (buy % back, don't kick them out).
- Low income public servants (nurses etc).
- Time served emergency services and armed forces personnel.
- Families going through divorce (sudden need for two homes).

I'm sure there are lots of other good example the good people of the UK can add to this, but that's my thoughts for now.

Please make this happen Sadiq!

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i agree with solving large problems like this in-house or at least not for profit. Also you know that everyone who gets paid from a government job will pay taxes back . Also government building projects enable proper coordinated design...

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i agree with solving large problems like this in-house or at least not for profit. Also you know that everyone who gets paid from a government job will pay taxes back . Also government building projects enable proper coordinated design with proper community feedback.

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Thank you for sharing your ideas.

What do you think new homes will mean for your neighbourhood?

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Incrementally remove house building restrictions on land that is within 15 minute walk of a train station, unless it's a public accessible park or area of outstanding natural beauty. This is only about 3% of London's 'green' land, and would...

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Incrementally remove house building restrictions on land that is within 15 minute walk of a train station, unless it's a public accessible park or area of outstanding natural beauty. This is only about 3% of London's 'green' land, and would provide 1M homes at medium density:

https://www.adamsmith.org/news/press-release-new-paper-reveals-where-lo…

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This may be politically difficult initially, but eventually, as the supply of housing increases, the cost of both renting and buying will go down, improving the living standards of millions.
I am sure these people will be politically...

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This may be politically difficult initially, but eventually, as the supply of housing increases, the cost of both renting and buying will go down, improving the living standards of millions.
I am sure these people will be politically grateful to whomever enabled this. Remember there was once a time when both parties competed on the number of houses they would build.

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"This is only about 3%" and that is the start of the slow slippery slope downwards.
This reminds me of a comment made during the referendum, while complaining about the EU being responsible for our housing crisis, the young man who was...

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"This is only about 3%" and that is the start of the slow slippery slope downwards.
This reminds me of a comment made during the referendum, while complaining about the EU being responsible for our housing crisis, the young man who was with his wife and 2 children and stated "we should build all over Richmond Park and Twickenham Green", so he could afford to buy a house, since public spaces were only there for the oldies, focusing on me at the time. Oh dear.
Twickenham Green is the last bit of Hounslow Heath in the borough and was protected, and still is subsequently, by the Enclosure Acts and while I applaud the using of empty buidlings, obtaining them by very high penalty rates if required while developing brownfield sites that no developer wants to touch, I do not agree with any loss of common land, it is owned by all the people and not for government to decide that they have the right to do what they wish with it, it belongs to the community, in perpetuity, we are its custodians NOT its owners.
www.ukmaburbanforum.co.uk/docunents/papers/allthingldesign.pdf

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I have explained how you can build 250,000 homes (affordable too) a year without it costing a penny of taxpayers money. Read my article - 'The Garden of Eden, a guilt free solution to the housing crisis' in Septembers MATURE TIMES on line...

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I have explained how you can build 250,000 homes (affordable too) a year without it costing a penny of taxpayers money. Read my article - 'The Garden of Eden, a guilt free solution to the housing crisis' in Septembers MATURE TIMES on line or in the paper if you can get it. Too much to explain here. The solution is simple, its criminal on the young people of our country, for the Goverment not to impliment it immediatley.

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Since working to try save a large area of Green Belt (21 acre site) here in London NW7 from an ill conceived plan to concrete it and turn it into a built environment, I have come to realise that many organisations wish to flatten and...

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Since working to try save a large area of Green Belt (21 acre site) here in London NW7 from an ill conceived plan to concrete it and turn it into a built environment, I have come to realise that many organisations wish to flatten and develop what is a local and national asset, our Green Belt and MOL (Metropolitan Open Land).

Its seems these irreplaceable areas of land are in the sights of some.

So far the Mayor has stood by his pledges to protect the Green Belt from such, by refusing the application here (Case Ref 4155), having been approved by our local council.
Whilst this particular application was not housing, it does throw into question, if the Mayor had not acted to protect the Green Belt from our councils decision to overrule its own officer's recommendation to refuse, then another slice of Green Belt would have gone, lost for future generations to enjoy.

It is peace meal destruction of our Green Belt and MOL, and with London's population growing the pressure will only increase.

It seems most of the housing being developed on Green Belt is not affordable.

I guess we have to make a choice in how we deal with the housing pressure, do we preserve our Green Open Spaces and be more innovative in how we provide housing, or do we allow councils and property developers to flatten it, to build executive homes, theme parks and golf courses.

Its our choice, get involved or lose it - once its gone, its gone !

'425,000 houses now planned for Green Belt, of which more than 70% are unaffordable':
http://www.cpre.org.uk/resources/housing-and-planning/green-belts/item/…

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Would you be ok with relaxing height restrictions?

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Well done, please continue working to preserve the Green Belt!

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Thanks everyone for sharing your views so far. We've shared these with our policy team here at City Hall.

Do you think inner London can support more homes? Why or why not?

Do you think there is space for development in the suburbs or not?

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Do you think inner London can support more homes? Why or why not?

Potentially, if we relax height restrictions. For example, I understand the King Henry's Mound view corridor extends all the way from Richmond to st Paul's, yet very few...

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Do you think inner London can support more homes? Why or why not?

Potentially, if we relax height restrictions. For example, I understand the King Henry's Mound view corridor extends all the way from Richmond to st Paul's, yet very few people see it.

Do you think there is space for development in the suburbs or not?

Undoubtedly yes, there is space to build 1M homes at medium density on land that is within 15 minute walk of a train station, that isn't a publicly accessible park or area of outstanding natural beauty. This is only about 3% of London's 'green' land.

https://www.adamsmith.org/news/press-release-new-paper-reveals-where-lo…

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On brownfield sites.

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no mention that all these flats being built are leasehold? I.e. you are still a tenant even though you are spending £ hundreds of thousands on it? #leaseholdscandal

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Almost half of London is green space, made up of public open space and private/residential gardens. The ide that London is a concrete jungle is nonsense. Take a look at Google Earth and you will see how different London is to many other...

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Almost half of London is green space, made up of public open space and private/residential gardens. The ide that London is a concrete jungle is nonsense. Take a look at Google Earth and you will see how different London is to many other cities around the world. London is an economic and social magnet, people choose to move here because of the opportunities the city provides, providing suitable and sustainable housing is the only way to keep London a centre of trade and society. Brown-field sites must be used for proper houses, not bland and soulless towers of glass! A really radical idea would be to review the green belt, London has a very obvious border, the M25. Developing and improving transport links within this border would enable the development of new suburbs, with space for family homes, employment and social infrastructure. Containing the city within the M25 is far more sustainable than turn the entire South East into a vast commuter region. Radical and forward thinking ideas are needed.

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I don't agree with this at all.