Brexit and moving London forward
London voted to stay in the European Union, but the country voted to leave. The coming months will bring the start of negotiations that will steer its way forwards through a ‘Brexit’ process and beyond.
Membership of the European Union meant access to the single market - meaning no trade restrictions or tariffs and free movement of services, goods and people between the UK and member countries. What follows could therefore shape future trade, establishment, investment and possibly civic life in general in the capital.
What do you think are the key issues for the capital through this negotiation process and beyond? What are the conditions needed for London to move forward with the UK no longer part of the European Union? How can we unite to build towards a strong future for the capital?
The discussion ran from 28 June 2016 - 28 September 2016
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Community Member 9 years agoSore losers should put a sock on it. All Leave voters are not xenophobic racists. London deserves no more say than any other area of the country. Although many Remsin supporting Londoners feel entitled and used to getting their own way...
Show full commentSore losers should put a sock on it. All Leave voters are not xenophobic racists. London deserves no more say than any other area of the country. Although many Remsin supporting Londoners feel entitled and used to getting their own way they need to cease the bitterness and sour grapes and grow up.
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Community Member 9 years agoWhat is not grown-up, and not grown-up enough to be allowed to vote at all, is voting just to sock one to the elite thinking it would have no effect. What is not grown-up is voting for a party that is supported by the far-far-right racist...
Show full commentWhat is not grown-up, and not grown-up enough to be allowed to vote at all, is voting just to sock one to the elite thinking it would have no effect. What is not grown-up is voting for a party that is supported by the far-far-right racist organisations and pretending not to be xenophobic or racist. Something like those who voted for Hitler but 'not because of the Jews'? It might have seemed OK back then, but society is wiser now. Were the non-racist Leave voters really so incredibly ignorant and naive? Because I am sure the Exit campaigners were not. I am as concerned as anyone about UK population increase being beyond sustainability, but would have cut my own throat before voting Brexit.
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Community Member 9 years agoRidiculous hyperbole and hysteria, the sour grapes and sore losing go on and on. Meanwhile the 17.5m go around with a broad smile on their faces. The Bremainer thought police drone on and on, meanwhile life goes on and those who don't...
Show full commentRidiculous hyperbole and hysteria, the sour grapes and sore losing go on and on. Meanwhile the 17.5m go around with a broad smile on their faces. The Bremainer thought police drone on and on, meanwhile life goes on and those who don't feel as entitled look forward to the future.
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Community Member 9 years agoYes our Mayor should be part of the EU negotiating team.He should also be made a Privy Councillor and probably a Life Peer.London needs to ensure for its own sake that the negotiations protect our interests as the leading city in Europe...
Show full commentYes our Mayor should be part of the EU negotiating team.He should also be made a Privy Councillor and probably a Life Peer.London needs to ensure for its own sake that the negotiations protect our interests as the leading city in Europe,even if we cannot play football
At some stage following on the Referendum results the boundaries of London need to be extended to cover all the four points of the compass which should be regarded as being London on employment,economic,transport,cultural and social.For example in the west,where I live,Elmbridge,Mole Valley,Epsom,maybe as far as Brighton,Reading,St.Albans,Tunbridge Wells. I wish the rest of the country would stop moaning about London and do something about their own regions. Europe needs us.
At some stage we should try and lead like minded nations in Europe against the German/French unreal monolith.The Germans like the euro because without it they could not export.Europe needs to be reaslistic ,re-arrange its bureaucracy,as do we in the Un ited Kingdom.
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Community Member 9 years agoI think that the referendum should have only been for people with UK citizenship only. Not dual nationals
Show full commentI have spoken to many people who are immigrants to this country from the EU and have stayed here long enough to have obtained UK...
I think that the referendum should have only been for people with UK citizenship only. Not dual nationals
Show less of commentI have spoken to many people who are immigrants to this country from the EU and have stayed here long enough to have obtained UK citizenship.
Some of them voted leave. Of course they are not so affected as UK only citizens as they still have their alternative EU country passport and so still have freedom of movement throughout EU.
Makes the referendum vote unfair.
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Community Member 9 years agoI get your point. But I think it's more that British Citizens living in areas like Spain and France sent in postal votes, which they are fully entitled to do, with obviously a remain vote in them. Take the number of offshore votes out of...
Show full commentI get your point. But I think it's more that British Citizens living in areas like Spain and France sent in postal votes, which they are fully entitled to do, with obviously a remain vote in them. Take the number of offshore votes out of the equation, and you get a higher percentage of leave voters.
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Community Member 9 years agoI get your point. But I think it's more that British Citizens living in areas like Spain and France sent in postal votes, which they are fully entitled to do, with obviously a remain vote in them. Take the number of offshore votes out of...
Show full commentI get your point. But I think it's more that British Citizens living in areas like Spain and France sent in postal votes, which they are fully entitled to do, with obviously a remain vote in them. Take the number of offshore votes out of the equation, and you get a higher percentage of leave voters.
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Community Member 9 years agoThe UK is a Democracy, as is London and London is part of the UK and has to abide by the result and accept that we are now no longer ruled and restricted by an unknown, faceless, technocratic, elite. I believe in the right of everyone to...
Show full commentThe UK is a Democracy, as is London and London is part of the UK and has to abide by the result and accept that we are now no longer ruled and restricted by an unknown, faceless, technocratic, elite. I believe in the right of everyone to live how and wherever they wish and in their innate Democratic right to have a referendum, to start moaning that, 'it's not fair' is demeaning the very nature of Democracy.
I voted to leave and if it had gone against me I would NOT have thrown MY rattle out of the pram, instead I'd have demanded that there be a General Election, accepted the fact that the UK had held a referendum and that I'd voted for the losing side, I didn't and those who did should feel lucky that at least in the United Kingdom we have DEMOCRACY, which is more than many countries (such as Russia, Syria, Turkey, Macedonia etc,.) have, which is why so many people have to face the death traps of the people smugglers to come and live here.
If France, the Netherlands and Italy also want to have a referendum and vote on 'IN' or 'OUT', then they should, however their governments are not restricted by 'the will of the People'.
We live in a FREE country and the unelected elite of Brussels have steadily been eroding this over the last 40 years, along with the machinations of the secretive Bilderberg group.
If people are so keen on staying in the EU, then (without Googling) who's your MEP ?
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Community Member 9 years agoI have signed petitions for a second referendum, not involving Article 50 and for an independent London. I also believe that because 52% of those who voted were in favour of Leave does not mean they were right. In a democracy we must have...
Show full commentI have signed petitions for a second referendum, not involving Article 50 and for an independent London. I also believe that because 52% of those who voted were in favour of Leave does not mean they were right. In a democracy we must have every right to challenge decisions and I fundamentally disagree with those who say we have to shut up and accept the outcome of the vote. We all need to have a voice in what happens next and the right outcome may well be closer to Remain than Leave. Having said all that I am not convinced an independent London is really the way to go. In many ways such a direction would be counter to the Remain philosophy of “we’re better off together”. I don’t think London will be a better place to live if it alienates the rest of the UK. I therefore advocate Londoners focusing on the best deal for the country as a whole.
Access to a single European market with minimal trade restrictions is paramount. If that means free movement of people, preferably labour, free movement it should be. We must be mature in our negotiations and not act like a petulant child because if we do we will lose – in other words there will be some give and take to protect and enhance the interests of the UK in Europe.
Given the uncertainty we have created not only for ourselves but for existing and potential investors around the world, a priority for Government is to provide favourable market conditions to maintain and attract investment. Given London’ status as a powerhouse with iconic qualities recognised across the world, then a significant focus should be on ensuring it is highlighted as an investment magnet.
You can’t beat the Olympic Games but London should incessantly keep itself on the map by bidding for as many prestigious sporting and cultural events as possible.
Brexit should not be an excuse to delay a decision on a new runway for London. A decision that a new runway is required must be ratified and a vote taken as to where it will be THIS YEAR. The arguments have been aired time and time again – even those who stand to lose out want a definitive outcome so that they can move on. To delay sends a message to the rest of the world that we don’t know what we are doing.
There are other things London can do to promote the UK without harming the provinces. We should continue investment in anything that improves quick, safe and pleasant access around London – night tube, CrossRail, Garden Bridge, more pedestrianisation and cycling with incentives to restrict non-essential traffic, and please a co-ordinated effort to reduce littering and increase recycling.
The size and power of London, which let’s remember has a much bigger economy and population than Scotland, means it must be at the table in all negotiations on our relationship with the EU – but at the table to negotiate the best for the whole UK.
Additional autonomy for London should be sought but not across the board as it is important that the rest of the UK does not suffer from London’s buoyancy.
Even in London 40% of voters were in the Leave camp. As with the rest of the country, we need to find out why people really voted Brexit – some of the answers may be unsavoury but we cannot allow prejudice or falsehood to become further entrenched. A starting point would be a statement explaining what “Taking Back Control” means – control of what?
Perhaps the real way to grab victory from the jaws of defeat is to have a second referendum on the resulting negotiated deal with the EU but can we trust ourselves?
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Community Member 9 years agoPerhaps even thought 48% voted to remain does not mean they were right.
it is now time to cut out all the whinging and pull together as we did during WW2 when we were facing unbelievable odds of life, death, slave labour or conversion to...
Show full commentPerhaps even thought 48% voted to remain does not mean they were right.
it is now time to cut out all the whinging and pull together as we did during WW2 when we were facing unbelievable odds of life, death, slave labour or conversion to bars of soap and no freedom of speech.
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Community Member 9 years agoIt was about 32% of the electorate that voted to leave the EU. It was not a democratic decision because the population was not properly informed and educated about what the options are, and campaigns deliberately used disinformation, lies...
Show full commentIt was about 32% of the electorate that voted to leave the EU. It was not a democratic decision because the population was not properly informed and educated about what the options are, and campaigns deliberately used disinformation, lies and dirty tricks. All of which should be banned before we vote again on anything. The referendum was not binding - it was advisory.
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Community Member 9 years agoThe result in London was interesting. Having read the comments by some of the posters, it would appear that in general the common denominator is that the majority are all very well paid or distinctly affluent and not particularly interested...
Show full commentThe result in London was interesting. Having read the comments by some of the posters, it would appear that in general the common denominator is that the majority are all very well paid or distinctly affluent and not particularly interested in the financial problems of others. I can only hope that they are ensuring that their parents are sharing in their affluence, bearing in mind that any money they have managed to save during their working life is from taxed income and is now receiving very little interest. Remember that for many the only other income is the State Pension for which they can and should thank Winston Churchill and Lloyd George.
Very many north of Watford are not so fortunate, no one objects to skilled workers coming here to a job what is hurting our workforce is the economic migrant who is prepared to work for less than the living wage in terrible living conditions, no wonder UK citizens voted lose Brussels interference in every day life.
Now get on and ensure that Great Britain prospers, remember as fore as trade is concerned Europe exports more to us than we do to them. This factor should control and stupidity on their part and if not they will be the ones hurt.
personally I would not send another penny to Brussels until they have signed off correctly on all their accounts and seriously tackled the rampant fraud within the EU system.
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Community Member 9 years agoThe result underlines the differences in views particularly in London and Scotland and these need to be respected as key economic and political influencers. The referendum was advisory, so given the regional differences and the post result...
Show full commentThe result underlines the differences in views particularly in London and Scotland and these need to be respected as key economic and political influencers. The referendum was advisory, so given the regional differences and the post result schadenfreude and lack of planning exhibited by the leave campaign and the grim realities shown by the global market place, we should delay any final decision, which is the prerogative of parliament, till there is new leadership(s?) in place and ideally a general election has been called - any move to speed up the process will leave us struggling as the rest of the EU 'punishes' the UK so that we do not 'encourage others'. We should await the views of other current members, wh are due p vote in elections next year - as this may lead to the very end desired; of a review and revision to current policies within the EU - at that point we will have achieved a step that will benefit all members over the longer term.
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Community Member 9 years agoYes, absolutely agree. The voice of reason.
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Community Member 9 years agoIn order to maintain London as the great city it is then we need to retain access to the single market and free movement of people. Our open society is what makes us so great and it's been heart warming to see Londoners outpouring of love...
Show full commentIn order to maintain London as the great city it is then we need to retain access to the single market and free movement of people. Our open society is what makes us so great and it's been heart warming to see Londoners outpouring of love for Europe and our European friends since the Brexit vote. I do think London is in danger of being seen as a separate unity from the rest of the country, and may be wrongly perceived as more privileged, which is something we may need to work on. I want London to stand up for our ideals, but somehow that needs to be balanced against uniting us with the rest of the country. I think it is important that we continue to unite against any acts of racism or aggression and not allow Brexit to take us backwards in our social acceptance of others.
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Community Member 9 years agoLondon has been seen as separate by most of north of Watford Gap for some decades, and our ideals should absolutely not be sacrificed. I have lived up north (as well as east, and west), and was shocked at the northern attitudes to anyone...
Show full commentLondon has been seen as separate by most of north of Watford Gap for some decades, and our ideals should absolutely not be sacrificed. I have lived up north (as well as east, and west), and was shocked at the northern attitudes to anyone who is not from their locality and not exactly like them in behaviour, clothes, sexuality, colour, etc. Not to mention some appalling sexist attitudes. It is like stepping back in history - a long, long way back. This is even in some university towns. In some ways people are more friendly in the north and midlands, but really you have to camouflage yourself in dress,habits and accent to be safe.
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Community Member 9 years agoBrexit has serious implications for our food and our environment. London needs to make sure that Brexit isn't an excuse not to tackle the dangerous air pollution problem in the city. We need to preserve the Nature and Habitats protections...
Show full commentBrexit has serious implications for our food and our environment. London needs to make sure that Brexit isn't an excuse not to tackle the dangerous air pollution problem in the city. We need to preserve the Nature and Habitats protections. We need to make London's food more self sufficient - more space for community gardens, supporting city farms and keeping our green spaces, alongside supporting UK farmers who feed the city to get a good, environmentally friendly and sustainable deal.
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Community Member 9 years agoLet's hope Sadiq Khan carries these principles forward. Wouldn't have stood a chance under Boris Johnson.
Show full commentLet's hope Sadiq Khan carries these principles forward. Wouldn't have stood a chance under Boris Johnson.
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Community Member 9 years agoRise above this and learn from the negatives and change them to positives for all race, culture and HUMAN BEING. I highlight human being.
Show full commentAt the end of the day we are all going to LEAVE when we die and not REMAIN forever regardless of race...
Rise above this and learn from the negatives and change them to positives for all race, culture and HUMAN BEING. I highlight human being.
Show less of commentAt the end of the day we are all going to LEAVE when we die and not REMAIN forever regardless of race, culture, faith. Get real and think how we can continue to be Human and Humane. At the end of the day to "Err is Human". To forgive is "Humane".
manup253
Community Member 9 years agoI am an immigrant in London and while I still feel as welcome today as I felt for the past 5 years, I am worried about the episodes of racism and anti-immigration that have been happening throughout the country. I really appreciate the...
Show full commentI am an immigrant in London and while I still feel as welcome today as I felt for the past 5 years, I am worried about the episodes of racism and anti-immigration that have been happening throughout the country. I really appreciate the messages of support of the Major and other personalities but I think it will be important to reprimand these episodes rather than letting them go, to insure that people don't feel that the outcome of this referendum has endorsed racism and intolerance.
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Community Member 9 years agoI think our Major is handling this very well. A seat at the negotiations table for London is fundamental. Free market and free circulation of people are too.
Show full commentI currently worry a lot about the economic situation, however I do not know what...
I think our Major is handling this very well. A seat at the negotiations table for London is fundamental. Free market and free circulation of people are too.
Show less of commentI currently worry a lot about the economic situation, however I do not know what the solution to that would be, if not a quick U turn regarding Brexit.
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Community Member 9 years agoI'm in the Imperialist enclave of the South Hams. I feel that the attitude and prosperity from London 2012 should spill out of beyond the M25. Yes Mayor you must be included in negotiations. Will there be any? or will it be like the last...
Show full commentI'm in the Imperialist enclave of the South Hams. I feel that the attitude and prosperity from London 2012 should spill out of beyond the M25. Yes Mayor you must be included in negotiations. Will there be any? or will it be like the last EU trip where Dave was victorious in getting 3/8th of effall?
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Community Member 9 years agoWell England has engaging on a new dimension all we need is togetherness. If you divided we will fall apart .I am a strong believer in the words of the God and his words said that a kingdom divided by itself will fall. The people has spoken...
Show full commentWell England has engaging on a new dimension all we need is togetherness. If you divided we will fall apart .I am a strong believer in the words of the God and his words said that a kingdom divided by itself will fall. The people has spoken but we need to call on the Creator of creation for His help so that we do not faint while carry out His plans and purposes here in this country. We seek help on our own but we have to remember who is in control and who has the final say in our day to day lives.I think that the country should start recognize the purposes of the church. In olden days God did speak to his people through His true prophets. Let us all work together to build a better United Kingdom and stand up and fight for the integrity of this nation. Let the people taking part in building this country, what had done is already gone tomorrow is a new day so let us work for progress and failure. Thank you for allowing me to have my say, GBU-God bless you all .
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Community Member 9 years agoWith people in Hackney afraid to go out because of racist abuse being hurled at them, with 'foreigners' shop windows smashed in Lewisham, children suffering racist abuse - you have a hard task ahead of you. Because Brexit will not bring...
Show full commentWith people in Hackney afraid to go out because of racist abuse being hurled at them, with 'foreigners' shop windows smashed in Lewisham, children suffering racist abuse - you have a hard task ahead of you. Because Brexit will not bring togetherness, and the racist genie is not so easy to back in its bottle.
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Community Member 9 years agoAlthough I believe the EU has many faults I feel this is not the best result for the UK. We were starting to get somewhere with concessions from the EU, and it's better to be inside trying to change things than on the outside shouting.
I...
Show full commentAlthough I believe the EU has many faults I feel this is not the best result for the UK. We were starting to get somewhere with concessions from the EU, and it's better to be inside trying to change things than on the outside shouting.
I accept the result of the referendum, but am amazed by the attitude of the Scots, who are now looking to remain, despite the referendum saying leave. On that basis, surely London, with a larger GDP and greater tax contribution should have a voice in any future discussions.
The whole campaign was ugly and if retailers told as many lies as the leave people they would be prosecuted.
Anyway, we have to make the most of it, so let's pull together and try and make this country great again. Even with worries over a recession and currency collapse as a result
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Community Member 9 years agoWhen was this country last 'great', in what ways, and why? I am always puzzled by this. Are people harking back to the days of Empire and slavery, or just to the brief period in the last century when we had a bit of money. Don't forget that...
Show full commentWhen was this country last 'great', in what ways, and why? I am always puzzled by this. Are people harking back to the days of Empire and slavery, or just to the brief period in the last century when we had a bit of money. Don't forget that much of our 'greatness' was PR and puff, not reality - a UK-centric interpretation of history.
The campaign was certainly very ugly indeed, and because the exit campaigners focused on immigration in order to win, the racists have taken the result as permission to harass almost anyone, children, people with slightly 'un-English' surnames, whatever. Whichever way the vote went this would have happened, and it is not so easy to fix. The Brexit campaigners knew exactly what they were doing, and did not care.
There should be a major clean-up of politics and politicians. It should be illegal for politicians and campaigners to lie, and using dirty tricks and advertising techniques in campaigning should be banned.
I don't accept the result of the referendum because the electorate was not educated and informed enough for making the voting decision rationally. Not only that, they were deliberately disinformed. It is not a democratic result under these circumstances. It was an advisory referendum, so the government should not go galloping willy-nilly into Brexit.
First it should do what should have been done a year ago, which is to clearly and in detail set out the Brexit and Stay options and scenarios, with realistic models and projections of the economic requirements, and pros and cons of each. To include the social, legal, geopolitical and other outcomes of the various options. And only then should the electorate be asked to choose. With voting made mandatory, and extended to at least 17 years old people.
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Community Member 9 years agoScotland is one of the two Kingdoms, with its own devolved and elected government under its own legal system. I am not surprised in the least when one Kingdom wants to remove all the constituent parts from the EU. This has reminded me why...
Show full commentScotland is one of the two Kingdoms, with its own devolved and elected government under its own legal system. I am not surprised in the least when one Kingdom wants to remove all the constituent parts from the EU. This has reminded me why the Blair government never followed through with English devolution, the North didn't want it but there was a growing resentment that London didn't have what Scotland did, it is all coming up again, quelle surprise!.
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Community Member 9 years agoI voted leave, love in London and stand by that decision. It was made before the leave campaign used the NHS and immigration as their main campaigning issues. Furthermore, I currently work on Financial Services, have worked for the NHS in...
Show full commentI voted leave, love in London and stand by that decision. It was made before the leave campaign used the NHS and immigration as their main campaigning issues. Furthermore, I currently work on Financial Services, have worked for the NHS in admin and recently had major surgery on the NHS and also worked in France and some other countries in the EU.
Of course Sadiq Khan needs a seat. London remainers seem to be thoroghly selfish here and need to recognise that leave won and that some people in the rest of the country have already seen their job go to the EU and some even elsewhere. London is in England which also has the same laws as the rest of England and Wales. We would love to keep Scotland with us, but you can't have London in the EU and ditch the rest of England cos that would probably mean even less money for the rest of the country.
I see a London mayor's seat as a pivotal one. Work to keep jobs not just in Financial Services but also across other sectors. We also need him to build bridges as in other areas of the country. Only weeks ago we were asking, "when will the bubble burst" well we might have just done that, the Chancellor, by introducing tax increases for landlords, hasn't been able to stop rents and house prices spiralling upwards. The mayor needs to ensure this is used to Londons advantage and also get people into the empty homes and use the flats that have been bought by overseas investors and ensure these are rented to Londoners and not left as a an empty investment.
NHS -this needs to be fairer. Ever been kept waiting for 2 weeks for an appointment with a GP that you actually need pre surgery? This needs addressing and not making London such a highly attractive place to live immigration wise (not just from the EU) might take some pressure off our surgeries and hospitals. If the NHS is broken up then the mayor has work to do here to abd also each London based medical member of staff has far, far too many patients to see. Not that other places don't but in London the issue is more prevalent than in some other areas of the country.
Above all, he needs to be keeping the peace in London. Marches and demonstrations will be taking place very soon. There are lots of people concerned about war. There has never been so much political and social unrest here and social media sites are just fuelling the anger. Racism, or to be called racist or any other similar comment is not welcome to the average leave voter and this needs stamping out as much as is humanly possible and Brexit needs to go through as quickly and smoothly as possible, working together peacefully so we can all get on with things.
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Community Member 9 years agoHow do you feel now the 'cash for the NHS' promised by the leave team is being denied by Boris and Farrage?
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Community Member 9 years agoIt was total rubbish from the start. As I said I'd already made my mind up before they started to use the NHS and immigration as their campaign issues. If I'd have known the usages faced at the start of my treatment I would have gone...
Show full commentIt was total rubbish from the start. As I said I'd already made my mind up before they started to use the NHS and immigration as their campaign issues. If I'd have known the usages faced at the start of my treatment I would have gone private. Although they could respond to my formal complaint they couldn't actually resolve it.
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Community Member 9 years agoWe are following the European Council over on our homes live in London, need to top of the city is our world without racist, fascist & nationalism only. Yes to London is out of the Brexit fixed to up 4 years. 16 Millions civilization must...
Show full commentWe are following the European Council over on our homes live in London, need to top of the city is our world without racist, fascist & nationalism only. Yes to London is out of the Brexit fixed to up 4 years. 16 Millions civilization must to following our EU Referendum would be greater suffers beyond the FX Traders across the UK. Part of the England & Wales must to return to the EU's Commission based @ Independence by Lib Dems & Labour. Labour would be return to the unity without Division states, Corbynism would be upgraded to new the UK & EU integration replaces by disintegration.
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Community Member 9 years agoThought it was ironic that Wales, a nett receiver of EU cash, and subsidised by taxes from hard working English and London taxpayers, voted out
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Community Member 9 years agoI am sorry, but I have read this many times and still cannot understand what you are actually saying, let alone the points you are trying to make?
Please keep it simple and it will be easy to read and understand. Thank you.
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Community Member 9 years agoI am disappointed by the referendum result. But we need to respect the will of the people. The referendum result provides a mandate to the government to negotiate on Brexit.
However, given the range of Brexit views expressed it is not...
Show full commentI am disappointed by the referendum result. But we need to respect the will of the people. The referendum result provides a mandate to the government to negotiate on Brexit.
However, given the range of Brexit views expressed it is not clear what actually the people want. The Leave campaign made a range of mutually exclusive promises about what Brexit would look like. And it relied on forecasts of how other countries would respond that may or may not be realised. Angela Merkel does not seem inclined to give access to the single market without accepting free movement of people.
The new Prime Minister should immediately invoke article 50 and move to negotiate the key heads of agreement: single market, contribution, freedom of movement.
Not all voters - whether Leave or Remain - will be happy with their referendum choice once they know what the actual negotiated deal is. Therefore the public should be given a chance to vote Leave or Remain once the terms of Brexit are known. That would not be a re-run of the referendum, but the answer to a different, concrete question.
So the Mayor should campaign for Parliament to vote now for a second referendum eighteen months after Article 50 has been triggered.
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Community Member 9 years agoHow could people vote leave when they didn't know under what basis we would leave, and how that could affect trade, immigration and everything else?
Whole campaign on both sides was poor, lots of misinformation, untruths and downright lies...
Show full commentHow could people vote leave when they didn't know under what basis we would leave, and how that could affect trade, immigration and everything else?
Whole campaign on both sides was poor, lots of misinformation, untruths and downright lies.
Cameron screwed it up. Should have been a definite sizeable majority to enforce leave. Ended up with half the country at odds with the rest.
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Community Member 9 years agoI am disappointed by the referendum result. But we need to respect the will of the people. The referendum result provides a mandate to the government to negotiate on Brexit.
However, given the range of Brexit views expressed it is not...
Show full commentI am disappointed by the referendum result. But we need to respect the will of the people. The referendum result provides a mandate to the government to negotiate on Brexit.
However, given the range of Brexit views expressed it is not clear what actually the people want. The Leave campaign made a range of mutually exclusive promises about what Brexit would look like. And it relied on forecasts of how other countries would respond that may or may not be realised. Angela Merkel does not seem inclined to give access to the single market without accepting free movement of people.
The new Prime Minister should immediately invoke article 50 and move to negotiate the key heads of agreement: single market, contribution, freedom of movement.
Not all voters - whether Leave or Remain - will be happy with their referendum choice once they know what the actual negotiated deal is. Therefore the public should be given a chance to vote Leave or Remain once the terms of Brexit are known. That would not be a re-run of the referendum, but the answer to a different, concrete question.
So the Mayor should campaign for Parliament to vote now for a second referendum eighteen months after Article 50 has been triggered.
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Official Representative 9 years agoThanks all for your comments so far. There are lots of very insightful posts here, which are all being fed in to our thinking at City Hall.
Keep them coming!