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London voted to stay in the European Union, but the country voted to leave. The coming months will bring the start of negotiations that will steer its way forwards through a ‘Brexit’ process and beyond.

Membership of the European Union meant access to the single market - meaning no trade restrictions or tariffs and free movement of services, goods and people between the UK and member countries. What follows could therefore shape future trade, establishment, investment and possibly civic life in general in the capital.

What do you think are the key issues for the capital through this negotiation process and beyond? What are the conditions needed for London to move forward with the UK no longer part of the European Union? How can we unite to build towards a strong future for the capital?

The discussion ran from 28 June 2016 - 28 September 2016

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When I look at the comments here, it is Christmas clear to me that Brexit happened because most people are clueless about what it means exonmically to have free access to the nulber one market in the world which represented half of our...

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When I look at the comments here, it is Christmas clear to me that Brexit happened because most people are clueless about what it means exonmically to have free access to the nulber one market in the world which represented half of our exports. And'how long this will take to change. I don't think asking the population is a good way to go about it because this isn't a very technical issue only experts and highly educated people can grasp. Of course we could listen to the experts but somehow this country "has had enough of experts". Well here we are.m in this mess now. The best way to go forward is to negotiate free access which will come with freedom of movement. Limited freedom of movement will come with limited access, which will hit us hard. When it comes to london, financial passporting is in the balance. I think your best bet is to activley lobby for freedom of movement for Europeans. Or you ll lose a ¼ to a ½ of the city. Emmanuel Macron and many MEPS and heads of state or governments have been racheter clear about this so far. And it was expected. Let's cut to the chase and stop being in denial
And let's try to fix this.

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Our financial markets must be protected. This has to be achieved with a continuation of the European advantage in trade being accepted under the present trade agreements - even if this means slowing new trade agreements with other parts of...

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Our financial markets must be protected. This has to be achieved with a continuation of the European advantage in trade being accepted under the present trade agreements - even if this means slowing new trade agreements with other parts of the world

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Our financial markets must be protected. This has to be achieved with a continuation of the European advantage in trade being accepted under the present trade agreements - even if this means slowing new trade agreements with other parts of...

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Our financial markets must be protected. This has to be achieved with a continuation of the European advantage in trade being accepted under the present trade agreements - even if this means slowing new trade agreements with other parts of the world

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Whether or not I voted for Sadiq Khan is neither here nor there, the fact is I had a vote and on the ballot paper the name 'Sadiq Khan' was there for me to choose or not, however in all the years that the UK has been in the EU I've never...

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Whether or not I voted for Sadiq Khan is neither here nor there, the fact is I had a vote and on the ballot paper the name 'Sadiq Khan' was there for me to choose or not, however in all the years that the UK has been in the EU I've never seen any of the Euro MP's on a ballot paper.
I've never seen the name 'Donald Tusk' on any ballot sheet and really don't recall voting for any of those in the UK who stood for election.
The faceless people who infest the Brussels building and still haven't had their expenditure audited and signed off for the last 50 years and this makes me wonder as to what is going on there and why can't they sign off the accounts ?
Any business that refused to sign off its' accounts would have the taxman taking them to court and the people that were running this business being either imprisoned or fined or both and yet this hasn't happened in Brussels, I wonder why ?
An unaccountable and unelected parliament is the way that dictators such as Adolf Hitler, Franco, Robert Mugabe and many others ran and, in some cases, still run their countries, my father fought against Franco and Hitler because he believed in the right of People to live in democratic freedom or to put it simply, 1 person, 1 vote.
I do not wish to live in a dictatorial super state with an unelected head, an unelected commission and unelected commissioners, all of who decide how I should live day to day.

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I have always voted in the EU elections, for UK MEPs. Using a ballot paper. The last time I did this was Thursday May 22, 2014. I voted Green, and gee, Green Jean Lambert got in as one of the eight London MEPs. There are parties to vote...

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I have always voted in the EU elections, for UK MEPs. Using a ballot paper. The last time I did this was Thursday May 22, 2014. I voted Green, and gee, Green Jean Lambert got in as one of the eight London MEPs. There are parties to vote for, and independent candidates.

And that business about the accounts not being signed-off. Every year since 2007 they have been given a clean bill of health as being an accurate record of payments made. This is signed-off. But the European Court of Auditors also reports on the 'regularity' of the EU accounts - the degree to which they are free of significant errors. Signifcant means above 2%. In 2014 for eg the level of errors was 4.4%. Errors does not mean fraud or waste, it means payments made without rules being strictly followed. This is the aspect that people call the accounts not being signed off. It takes time, but the EU claims money back in these cases. So the EU accounts are signed off as being an accurate account of what was spent, and the report indicates where there were errors in how payments were made. These are then checked and money claimed back where necessary. The UK has a particularly complex way of doing its EU accounts, making it easy for the UK to delay making payments back when there are errors that require this. And the whole 2014 EU expenditure was apparently about the same as the UK spent on the NHS in 2014, to get it in perspective.

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For electoral reasons HMG are going to restrict freedom of movement from EU (and other) countries. Therefore there is no prospect that we shall have full access to the Single Market. Eventually there will be an enormous haggle on the extent...

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For electoral reasons HMG are going to restrict freedom of movement from EU (and other) countries. Therefore there is no prospect that we shall have full access to the Single Market. Eventually there will be an enormous haggle on the extent of our future access, which to some extent will be conducted sector by sector. For London the main consideration is that we should negotiate hard on the financial and services sectors.

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At a time when the world is so divided, with Russia annexing territory, China trying to expand towards Japan and the Middle East in flames with no restraint offered by 'the West'; we decide to pull out of a union of European countries....

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At a time when the world is so divided, with Russia annexing territory, China trying to expand towards Japan and the Middle East in flames with no restraint offered by 'the West'; we decide to pull out of a union of European countries. Whilst I accept that there is much to be criticised about the EU, I just hope we can salvage at least part of our relationship with our European partners. For London this is particularly important with a million small businesses and our financial centre depending on business without borders (or tariffs).

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I was bitterly disappointed with the result; in London I feel it is vital that we emphasise the value of our mixed heritage (both historic and more recent) I worry that the result will be seen as endorsing all sorts of racism and reaction...

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I was bitterly disappointed with the result; in London I feel it is vital that we emphasise the value of our mixed heritage (both historic and more recent) I worry that the result will be seen as endorsing all sorts of racism and reaction.
On a less eu related area I really think that County Hall should consider a vigorous campaign to reverse the right to buy scheme. This has been the predominant underminer of social housing over the last thirty odd years and while it remains in place I can't see much point in encouraging councils to build homes which will just be bought out of the community as soon as humanly possible. Addressing the London housing problem(obviously in other ways too) just might begin to change the mindset of the disadvantaged brexiters.

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We have left the un-democratic cartel so we must now focus on being part of wider world trade - not the introverted, self-interested federal state that was being created by un-elected bureaucrats that has caused so much damage to...

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We have left the un-democratic cartel so we must now focus on being part of wider world trade - not the introverted, self-interested federal state that was being created by un-elected bureaucrats that has caused so much damage to the Mediterranean economies.

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But out there in the wider world it is even less democratic when it comes to negotiating trade agreements. Governments sign up to agreements that hand over their sovereignty to other states or to large corporations without even mentioning...

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But out there in the wider world it is even less democratic when it comes to negotiating trade agreements. Governments sign up to agreements that hand over their sovereignty to other states or to large corporations without even mentioning it to their citizens. This has led to countries being sued in secret international courts by other countries or by companies, for enacting legislation that negatively affects that country's or company's profits. Increasing the minimum wage led to Egypt being taken to court by Veolia (who have the contract for Westminster council waste etc services). Developing countries trying to improve appalling workers' work conditions are sued, and are ordered to pay fines greater than their economy can bear. Democratically elected governments are prevented from protecting their citizens from serious health and safety threats via legislation. As another example, a Mexican local council refused a US company planning permission for a toxic waste dump because they and the local population did not want water and land to be polluted by toxins. So the US corporation sued the Mexican government in the secret corporate tribunal and got over $15 million awarded for loss of profit or reduced investor income. These trade agreements are a carte blanche for corporations to milk non-compliant states for billions of dollars if they won't accept the corporation effectively controlling their legislation. I am sick of hearing about the EU & sovereignty issue - at least European citizens were able to get together to lobby against the offending clauses in the TTIP, and there was consultation (with a huge negative response from citizens and groups). Outside the EU there is no democratic input at all into the UK negotiation process - the government will not be telling the public about the terms they are negotiating. And our democracy and sovereignty will be signed away again and again, with each trade agreement.

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London is the largest economy within the UK. London assembly should demand equal rights with Scotland, N Ireland and Wales. Taxation raised in London should be spent in London.

London has voted to remain in the EU. London should demand a...

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London is the largest economy within the UK. London assembly should demand equal rights with Scotland, N Ireland and Wales. Taxation raised in London should be spent in London.

London has voted to remain in the EU. London should demand a say in the terms to be negotiated with the EU. The other parts of the U.K. and the Brexit negotiators (from the central government ) are not symphatetic to London interests. If we do not speak up for ourselves, we shall be ignored.

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In the Independent earlier this week it was announced that the Mayor was actively seeking devolution for London. He has set up a working group of academics and business leaders to develop a strategy to implement. According to the report he...

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In the Independent earlier this week it was announced that the Mayor was actively seeking devolution for London. He has set up a working group of academics and business leaders to develop a strategy to implement. According to the report he has met the new chancellor who is open to the idea of devolving powers from the UK to London. The devolved government maybe shaped along current Scottish lines who have their own laws, tax raising powers and how it goes s spent. The article didn't go into that level of detail but it would be reasonable to conclude that that's the direction we're heading

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Why do I feel nervous about the Mayor (any Mayor) getting more powers?

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It is important that all the country moves forward not just one part of it. London may currently create much of the wealth for the country, but perhaps now is the time to put efforts into increasing earnings outside London. Aim for a...

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It is important that all the country moves forward not just one part of it. London may currently create much of the wealth for the country, but perhaps now is the time to put efforts into increasing earnings outside London. Aim for a balanced London economy where the extremes of wealth & poverty are reduced. Improve quality of life. There is no point in having a city so expensive that the people needed to provide council services, police, hospitals etc cannot afford to live & work there. Even less point in making it even more expensive.
Build some prefab housing to house those currently necessary for London at affordable prices but discourage new businesses which will rely on people commuting long distances. Aim to provide a good work life balance for Londoners. Let people have time and incentive to provide some of those things which are better provided by family or volunteers rather than spending their time commuting.
Now is a chance to move forward with new industry throughout the country making things for the world rather than having to buy goods where the EU standards they are made to is for the benefits of industry rather than consumers. It would be good to make wealth for the country by innovating and making things rather than taking money for moving money around.

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Dear Mayor, the Prime Minister has talked to the Scotish and to the Nothern Irish leaders about involving them in negotiations with the EU, but not to you. You need to raise your profile and demand to represent the views in the Londoners...

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Dear Mayor, the Prime Minister has talked to the Scotish and to the Nothern Irish leaders about involving them in negotiations with the EU, but not to you. You need to raise your profile and demand to represent the views in the Londoners. When will you be meeting Mrs May to put our case? Are you preparing a plan to defend the interests of London? You have not been visible. It's the time for you to stand up on our behalf.

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Two areas to protect, research funding and banking across borders.

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Refer two comments above:
Well said, Rosemary! The EU referendum was much better than a general election because it was nationwide, each and every vote counted, the result was unambiguous with a clear win with over a million vote lead, and...

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Refer two comments above:
Well said, Rosemary! The EU referendum was much better than a general election because it was nationwide, each and every vote counted, the result was unambiguous with a clear win with over a million vote lead, and most of all, the turnout was much higher than in any local or general election.
Kronen. Yes indeed, Mayor lied! The election promise was clearly stated as "No increase in fares until 2020!". Don't get much plainer, does it? A clear and definate statement! Oh, but hold on. A few days after he wins, he says the costs of certain travel cards WILL increase because he has no control over those type of fare rises!
But I don't feel democracy died many years ago. I think that history reveals that we have never really had it at all in this country!

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If there were lies (by either side) and the lies come to light before the triggering of Artical 50 (which they have) then the result should NOT count whatsoever and Article 50 should NOT be triggered. you buy something from a store and it's...

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If there were lies (by either side) and the lies come to light before the triggering of Artical 50 (which they have) then the result should NOT count whatsoever and Article 50 should NOT be triggered. you buy something from a store and it's not as advertised you would take it back and quite rightly so, This you cannot take back, if you feel like you were cheated by falsehoods they have illegally got your vote on such an important issue, but alas nobody is listening to these people, the Tory party just want out and say it was democratic, Well if lies are involve the democracy goes right out of the window

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You would need to define what you mean by 'lies'.

For example, the Leave camp would claim that the claim of £350 million per week was exactly true. It is if one ignores that 2/3 of that sum returned immediately to the UK as subsidies and...

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You would need to define what you mean by 'lies'.

For example, the Leave camp would claim that the claim of £350 million per week was exactly true. It is if one ignores that 2/3 of that sum returned immediately to the UK as subsidies and that some of the rest comes back in the form of 'special projects'.

In teh UK we claim that work done to improve transport is an investment, the whole basis of the HS2 project is that the return on investment will be significant. So other money spent abroad on the European infrastructure projects (TENS etc) could be loked at as an investment of 'our money' in enhancing our ability to transport goods cheaply acros Europe to the point of sale.

The point of the 'lie' was that the words were truth, but those uttering them knew that the majority hearing them would be unable or unlikely to search out 'the truth', finding the countervailing arguments and reaching a balance.

the other problem is that so much of this was a game between players, who knew a different set of rules. So we had Alex Salmond who openly said that he was in the Remain camp only because Scotland believed in the EU, but was actually a supporter of Leave because it gave Scotland a cause for a new referendum.

And one might suspect that people in the political parties were playing the old party game of "Insert the Knife". Is Boris' position a test of his abilities or a reward for inserting the knife?

But, as I've said before, this doesn't mean that lies have been told, in exactly the same way that football players regard 'not getting caught' as being part of the game, whereas the average onlooker might simply see it as 'cheating'.

Is it a defence when someone makes a true statement that isn't 'the whole truth' that those receiving the statement have a duty to find out other arguments and weigh them up?

It is all down to presentation. The way that Leave presented the absolutely factual statements from the Remains (factual but perhaps overly-pessimistic) as 'Project Fear' was clever presentation. Any defence of those statements which most people didn't understand as being true would simply have seemed like more dirty laundry, regardless of the fact that they could have come true if it wasn't for large numbers who worked hard to stave off disaster...and are still working.

So both parties will claim that what tehy said was exactly the truth and if a person misunderstood what was said as being the whole truth then that's not their problem.

And on that twist they would claim that democracy, the tyranny of the mis-understanding, has been served.

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This is exactly where politics should be cleaned up, for once and for all. The point was the intent to deceive. Whether outright direct lying was used, or whether mendacity, speciousness, spuriosness, telling partial truths, cunning...

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This is exactly where politics should be cleaned up, for once and for all. The point was the intent to deceive. Whether outright direct lying was used, or whether mendacity, speciousness, spuriosness, telling partial truths, cunning psychological advertising tricks, whatever - all should be banned in politics and campaigning. And of course the referendum was undemocratic, and should be ignored.

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Just a few polite corrections and comments on Rosemary Pettitt posting above.

Being born into, and living until my teenage years in the most deplorable private renting under Rachman in the East End of the 50's and 60's, I can speak with...

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Just a few polite corrections and comments on Rosemary Pettitt posting above.

Being born into, and living until my teenage years in the most deplorable private renting under Rachman in the East End of the 50's and 60's, I can speak with authorization and experience on "degredation of property". A four room house, split into two flats, two up two down, for two seperate families with kids, a shared outside toilet and a tin bath brought in from the garden for a bathroom etc. Then, as now, this wasn't because of rent capping, but sheer greed on the part of Landlords! This was only cured by compulsory purchase (rightfully for next to nothing) by local councils who demolished them and replaced them with new builds of mass social housing which lead to elimination of slums with a giant improvement on society as a whole.

As for the woman you know who rented in a smart area when on benefits, this does smack of "know you're place and move out into and among your own kind!". WHY is she on benefits? Maybe disabilities, mental health issues, necessary family help in the area?? You don't know no more than I. If the H.A. was unpoliced, then why did she have to move into lower price? We must agree that it wasn't out of choice! So that makes the statement that it is unpoliced total nonsense!

How is social housing financed by those paying market price? In some areas, 80% of private properties are bought and owned by foreign nationals, not to live in, but left empty as pure investments! This, when my own council has only 7,000 properties and 15,000 on the waiting list for a roof over their head! Still, you are "private" so what do you care about the homeless or the low paid? You're all right, Jack!

Totally wrong about council and housing assoc not being assessed! Haven't you heard of something called "The Bedroom Tax"? £40 per week deduction per room from your allowance? You quote people you know, and so will I.
1) A 87 year old pensioner who will not be given the second room her health demands for her oxygen cylinders and other paraphanalia that keeps her alive. So she has spent the last 3 months in hospital, bed blocking, simply because no suitable accomadation available for her!
2) Another 66 year old pensioner, again denied the second room needed for her dialysis equipment that keeps her alive (if you can call laying there all day having your blood changed living!) because they won't bother with a kidney doner at her age!
If I sound bitter and resentful of the injustice of those examples, maybe it is because I am!

You speak of those, like yourself, who have supposedly "worked for" and now own your home as if you are something special, and it is something that everybody could and should do! Or do you own it yet? Are you one of those idiots who state indignantly "No, I'm in no debt whatsoever! I only have my £400,000 mortgage."

As for being someone "special" in having a mortgage, I too once had a large four bedroom house, circle driveway, an Italian sports car each for me and the wife, conservatory and all the trimmings. I think I can safely say I too "worked for it" after 9 years in the parachute regiment, including a 21 month tour, plus eleven further "emergency" short tours in Northern Island in IRA bandit country, followed by TWO battles across the Falklands, i.e. at Goose Green and Wireless Ridge! Leaving in disgust after the Falklands, I then went through 15 promotions from carriage cleaner to Depot Manager on the railways for 32 years! I feel that qualifies me as "working for it". However, at the age of 58, my wife decided to divorce me, getting 90% of the home I alone had worked and paid for, plus everything else I had, while at the same time, getting compulsoraly redundant from my Railway career. This left me homeless at age 59.

By the way, when was private housing last assessed for council tax? In 1992, that's when! If they did that now, long overdue, could you afford the 500% rise that would match the £400,000 house prices you are now so proud of? God help you if they went back to the rateable system, before poll tax. The average rates in London would be about £40,000 to £50,000 P.A. How would you afford that, may I ask?

So don't get too complacent, Rosemary, of being "Private" and having your own home. You never know when it will be taken away from you and you will then literally beg for social housing and benefits to live, and to not be cast onto the streets with the other thousands of homeless in London! Can you guarentee you will not suffer a stroke, or become so disabled where you will need to sell you home to pay that money to a greedy landlord at over £3000 per week for the constant 24 hour care you will then need? You will soon find the house that you "own" will soon dwindle to owning nothing should you live long enough in the care home. No, you cannot guarantee that will not happen, the same as any other home owner cannot guarantee it won't happen to them!

So be careful before you judge, lest yee be judged! For Judgement Day may come sooner than expected.

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Your comment about council tax is wrong. If the values were rebased to current values the percentage payable would be much less than values based on 1992 values. There might well be a small upward adjustment in the total amount payable but...

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Your comment about council tax is wrong. If the values were rebased to current values the percentage payable would be much less than values based on 1992 values. There might well be a small upward adjustment in the total amount payable but still approximately £1500 per annum on an average valued property.

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The key issues for the capital, like any major city, revolve around generating money. Trade then is a topic which must be considered as a priority. The UK has always had strong links in this respect with Europe and therefore these trade...

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The key issues for the capital, like any major city, revolve around generating money. Trade then is a topic which must be considered as a priority. The UK has always had strong links in this respect with Europe and therefore these trade links must be strengthened and kept. Also, looking into developing new SMEs and supporting entrepeneurs who want to start and /or expand their businesses. I believe in giving aswell as generating money and so part of the revenues generated from these business schemes should go towards social care and adult education.

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Answer to Christine & Talk London Team

My 3 top priorities are:

1) Housing. Please, please, please fight for the right to cap rents in London. With the new Government law on Housing Allowance Caps, many vulnarable people including...

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Answer to Christine & Talk London Team

My 3 top priorities are:

1) Housing. Please, please, please fight for the right to cap rents in London. With the new Government law on Housing Allowance Caps, many vulnarable people including pensioners in care homes, will be kicked out onto the street and become homeless. This is because the difference between housing allowance and the cost of rent in the real world in London is so great that ordinary people simply do not have the income to make up the financial gap.
Secondly, London is desperate for new social housing. I do not want to hear about 50,000 new homes being built with a PERCENTAGE being "affordable" which means an income of at least £30,000 p.a. What good is that to people beneath that salary??

2) Health: Due to the overcrowding in London, we must have more funding for our NHS across the board. Totally unacceptable that it is 4 weeks to see a G.P., cannot find any dentist that will take on NHS patients (too busy earning thousands pumping Botox into rich faces), with emergency A&E being kept in ambulances for 3 hours because the hospitals need to "tick the boxes" that no patient waited in the A&E dept for more than 4 hours! That's immoral, hypocritical and a downright lie!

3) Please face the reality of so called "community policing"! Please tell the truth, that PCSO's are NOT police officers, and have only as much power as a civilian! Less power than a traffic warden in fact, because they cannot even issue a parking ticket! They are not authorized to take a crime report, a witness report, make an arrest, - or anything else you would expect from a police officer. They merely do (for a handsome salary) what society should, would and could be doing for itself, i.e. reporting anything that may need police attention! Couple of weeks training in First aid and Health and Safety DOES NOT equate to six months of residential police training at Hendon, burning the midnight oil in order to pass the police exams. Yet they dress them up in identical and full police uniforms to fool the public that we have "Bobbies on the beat"! PCSO's were a con trick by Tony Blair that should be recognized, admitted and disbanded. For 2 PCSO salaries, we could employ another one fully trained and qualified response officer, which London truly needs! When cuts in police are mentioned, please acknowledge this difference between Community service officers and police officers!

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Capping private rents hasn't worked before and leads to the degradation of property over time. Housing allowances - which made up the shortfall - were not properly policed otherwise why would a single person (known to me) in a large flat in...

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Capping private rents hasn't worked before and leads to the degradation of property over time. Housing allowances - which made up the shortfall - were not properly policed otherwise why would a single person (known to me) in a large flat in a smart area be subsidised when she could have rented a smaller flat within her budget? The rent is going up again and at last she is taking the plunge and moving on. As to proportions of social housing one way or another this is financed by those paying a market price.

Council and housing association property is not continuously assessed either. A three-bedroom house in my street is occupied by a single woman (on benefits). That house could be for a small family. I know this is all rather sensitive but those of us who worked for, and paid mortgages, may view this as over-protective and not a fair allocation of resources.

Health - I think I'm right in saying that 25% of the NHS budget goes on compensation to patients for treatment that went wrong. Clearly, if someone has been disabled by the NHS they have to be looked after - but 25% ! Please correct me if I am wrong.

Agree on PCSOs. We love them and they do good work but they don't match up to a PC.

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Housing: Most social housing is not financed by those paying a market price. People in social housing pay taxes too, and most social rent housing was paid for hundreds of times over, long ago. It is the case that these days the major HAs...

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Housing: Most social housing is not financed by those paying a market price. People in social housing pay taxes too, and most social rent housing was paid for hundreds of times over, long ago. It is the case that these days the major HAs finance the tiny quantity of new social housing (if there is any growth in it at all) via the profits they make from their new developments throughout London, and via raising money on the markets against their property portfolios. And don't forget that social rent tenants pay taxes too. The 2016 Housing Bill was designed to kill-off social housing, and did a pretty good job of it. New social housing tenants only get 2 to 5 year tenancies, there are provisions for HAs to monitor their tenants' incomes and put up their rents or evict them if their income goes up above a level below which social rents are warranted. People who become homeless, for example through relationship breakdown or just because they cannot earn enough to pay the market rent levels, are now very likely to be rehoused in the midlands. Even if this means the individual loses a job, has to move away from support networks or from a family member whose carer they are. You mortgage payers have already won this battle. The result is that all those people - a substantial proporition of the population - who will never have the earnings capacity to afford market property prices will always be living in temporary accommodation. They will never feel secure, their children's schooling will always be at risk of being disrupted through repeated forced moves, their health will suffer through the stress. People are being punished for not being high earners. This is grossly unfair, and makes it even harder for families to break the generational low-earnings cycle. I suppose it is just the middle classes entrenching themselves and keeping out the lower classes, but frankly it is downright nasty.

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Thanks all for your thoughts so far. In terms of increasing autonomy for London, which many of you have mentioned, last week Sadiq Khan hosted a summit of political and business leaders from across the capital to discuss further devolution. In the aftermath of the EU referendum result, the Mayor is aiming to reach some agreement on what London Government should be calling for - from more control over taxes raised in London to how some public services are run. In particular, the Mayor has said that he’d like London government to more directly run skills training and further education and would like further powers over housing and planning, transport, health and policing.

What do you think? Should London Government have more control over public services? Which, if any, powers do you think should be devolved to London?

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I'm not at all keen on London having more planning powers. The 'relaxation' of planning standards has already resulted in permission being given to many more huge and tall developments along the Thames - they just haven't been built yet...

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I'm not at all keen on London having more planning powers. The 'relaxation' of planning standards has already resulted in permission being given to many more huge and tall developments along the Thames - they just haven't been built yet. Labour does not have a good record in this respect either.

I would be interested in hearing about proposals for other public services.

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Free Trade Zones are well established and proven constructs for incentivizing businesses to remain or to set up in particular location. In the foreseeable future and whilst new trade deals are thrashed out a number of factors will work...

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Free Trade Zones are well established and proven constructs for incentivizing businesses to remain or to set up in particular location. In the foreseeable future and whilst new trade deals are thrashed out a number of factors will work against the Capital over which London has little or no control. Therefore, if London is to retain its leading role in Europe then London should explore counter-measures that global business leaders will consider as imperative.
The Mayor has said that he’d like London government to more directly involved in running a number of initiatives including transport, health etc and to be semi-autonomous over tax raising capabilities. There are two sides to that initiative. Whilst under the circumstances this is necessary it needs to be balanced, on the one hand in the best interest of London and not to the detriment of regions outside London. Therefore, it will need its own unique form of governance and trade development (as the Mayor suggests) without being tied to regional strictures of governance and trade development of the UK as a whole.
Under consideration should be minimal regulation and administration; simplified labour laws; mechanisms to reduce the effects of currency fluctuations; fiscal and tax incentives, and optimised infrastructure and secure communications. 
Hence, perhaps he should consider a Free Trade Zone regime whereby London will be able to aggressively compete with the main centres in Europe and thereby safeguarding the ‘Business of London’.

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What a bunch of frightened pussys the generations of under 50's are!
Going back to the original questions:
1) London is part of Great Britain, which voted out of the EU. So suck it up and accept we are leaving, and the sooner the better...

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What a bunch of frightened pussys the generations of under 50's are!
Going back to the original questions:
1) London is part of Great Britain, which voted out of the EU. So suck it up and accept we are leaving, and the sooner the better! Stop talking bull with Independence for London. What next, Canvey Island to form its own government?
2) Being in EU didn't mean just access to single market. Started that way, but became a political ideal of a Unified Europe, with Germany calling the shots. Wake up and get real! 28 different nations would never agree on the bleeding colour chairs they sit on! We are (or will be, if and when it happens) a free and independant Nation and Sovereignty where we can and will determine our own future in the world!! W'll do our own trade deals, as and when!
3) Key issues etc. Bloody simple stupid! We have to change the dog eat dog world of Thatcherism by returning politically to the real values of a Socialist Party according to Kier Hardie, which is needed today as much as it was in the 19th century. This is the biggest challenge, as getting into power is far more important to most Labour MP's than principles, values, integrity, honesty, fairness and equality for which the Party was needed to be formed for in the first place.

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2) We no longer have trained or experienced trade deal negotiators. Major risk to sovereignty if we sign up to trade agreements that include Investor-State-Dispute resolution clauses - these permit multinationals to sue states that enact...

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2) We no longer have trained or experienced trade deal negotiators. Major risk to sovereignty if we sign up to trade agreements that include Investor-State-Dispute resolution clauses - these permit multinationals to sue states that enact legislation that damages their profits. Such as upping the minimum wage or doing away with zero-hours. I would not trust Tory or most current Labour MPs to ensure UK sovereignty is not signed away in the new trade deals.

3) Yes.

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"3) Key issues etc. Bloody simple stupid! We have to change the dog eat dog world of Thatcherism by returning politically to the real values of a Socialist Party according to Kier Hardie,"

Whiel you are at it, why don't you legislate that...

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"3) Key issues etc. Bloody simple stupid! We have to change the dog eat dog world of Thatcherism by returning politically to the real values of a Socialist Party according to Kier Hardie,"

Whiel you are at it, why don't you legislate that Pi=3, just to make it easier for the children! ( There's a precedent for it).

Socialism doesn't work because it requires 100% co-operation not just between everyone in the country, but also all other countries with which one trades as well. Nor does Socialism repeal the effect of 'market forces', the world of competitive advantage.

You have frequently advocated a return to the 1950's and 60's, a time of puynitive, confiscatory taxation, politicians blindly thinking that they could set the world price for any good ( not that it is dead, Miliband suggested that he would control the price of imported fuel at 40% below market price.)

"This is the biggest challenge, as getting into power is far more important to most Labour MP's than principles, values, integrity, honesty, fairness and equality"

However there is no point in having high principles, values, integrity etc if they aren't coupled to a sense of realism. The Greeks believed that they could declare 'anti-austerity' simply by refusing to repay the money they had borrowed. Reality demonstrated that if you refuse to honour the terms of your agreement with the anyone, then their sense of principle, values and integrity tell you to find another source when you want to borrow more money simply to pay your employees.

It might be a nice dream to say that we can raise wages (or artificially lower prices) to the level that everyone can have a bulging bank account, 12 holidays a year and at least two homes, but the truth is that it would raise our prices to the point of unsustainability.

One has to point out thet the Trades Unions favourite movie franchise, Jurassic Park, is entirely fiction. No matter how hard you try, dinosaurs are past their sell-by date.

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Blog article in the Guardian about increasing independence for London & etc.

"The case for a more independent, post-Brexit London is gaining strength"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/davehillblog/2016/jul/11/the-case-f…...

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Blog article in the Guardian about increasing independence for London & etc.

"The case for a more independent, post-Brexit London is gaining strength"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/davehillblog/2016/jul/11/the-case-f…

Interesting on the possibility of having London-only visas - asymmetrical immigration rules for a more devolved UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/davehillblog/2016/jul/11/the-case-f…

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