Environment, transport and clean air

Have your say on the proposed spending plans for the environment, transport and clean air in this year's Budget 2020-21.

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The environment is a priority area for you, ranked as the 4th highest area for improvement. Clean air is your biggest concern, with two thirds of you dissatisfied with air quality (67%). Your next biggest concern is the provision of low carbon and renewable energy sources, followed by reducing waste and increasing recycling.

In the Priorities for Londoners survey, you ranked transport as London's third highest performing area overall, behind culture and sport and inclusivity. 44% of you are satisfied with the city’s transport offer. You are most satisfied with the frequency, safety and reliability of public transport; meanwhile, affordability and the provision of greener public transport are your two biggest areas for improvement.

Over the last three years:

  • The Mayor has frozen Transport for London (TfL) fares for the fourth year running, and introduced the unlimited Hopper bus fare
  • The ultra-low emission zone (ULEZ) has been introduced, with the aim of reducing air pollution and congestion in central London. The first stage of the ULEZ is already having real impacts on air quality, with roadside nitrogen dioxide pollution reducing by around a third in the central London zone

The discussion ran from 07 January 2020 - 24 February 2020

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These are all great, but targets need to be more ambitious. There won't be a London to live in by 2050 if we continue to leave as we are. What can we do in the next 5 years to prevent that from happening?

- Tree planning

- Food recycling...

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These are all great, but targets need to be more ambitious. There won't be a London to live in by 2050 if we continue to leave as we are. What can we do in the next 5 years to prevent that from happening?

- Tree planning

- Food recycling mandatory for every building, even if it is a flat

- Recycling being consistent between boroughs

- No expansion in airports

- More incentives to switch to electric cars and/or leave car at home

-Incentives for businesses to cut their same/next day delivery trucks passing through London. What if same day delivery doesn't exist for any e-tailer? 

As it's been said, no one should be allowed to pollute, regardless of how much money the can spend.

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Prohibit all polluting vehicles from town. Full stop. You shouldn't be allowed to pollute our air, even if you are rich.

A few weekends ago in Piccadilly, there was a large gathering of supercars (Ferraris I think), which were revving...

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Prohibit all polluting vehicles from town. Full stop. You shouldn't be allowed to pollute our air, even if you are rich.

A few weekends ago in Piccadilly, there was a large gathering of supercars (Ferraris I think), which were revving extremely loudly, just showing off and then promenading up Regent Street. No police in sight to voice our concerns to. This brazen display of privelege and pollution was sickening. Please take measures to stop it.

 

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I have No idea Who the Mayor gets his information from regarding the Fuel emissions. This new Charge is Just another way to Penalise  Motorcycles . Which Do not cause much Polution. Vehicles that are Stuck in the Traffic cause The Polution ...

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I have No idea Who the Mayor gets his information from regarding the Fuel emissions. This new Charge is Just another way to Penalise  Motorcycles . Which Do not cause much Polution. Vehicles that are Stuck in the Traffic cause The Polution ! . Just another way to  Take money from Motorcycles and those with historic vehicles. Those that Cause the most Polution are Lorries , which of course bring in the Goods and things to keep the infrastructure going . Which in turn with his Polution charges will increase the Price of Goods , But perhaps He can afford the mass increase on The prices of All Goods . In our Household it will be a struggle.  

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ULEZ is very strict with cars and vans but not with motorcycles and mopeds. Motorcycles bought before 2006 can actually circulate without paying ULEZ charge. Small electric vehicles such as mopeds and motorcycles are already cost effective...

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ULEZ is very strict with cars and vans but not with motorcycles and mopeds. Motorcycles bought before 2006 can actually circulate without paying ULEZ charge. Small electric vehicles such as mopeds and motorcycles are already cost effective and more competitive than petrol ones, considering running costs and product price. Hundreds of mopeds and motorcycles are driven by food delivery chains (pizza Hut, Papa John,s - Domino's ect and food delivery drivers (deliveroo/ubereats etc) all the day around London contributing to air pollution.  The Mayor Of London team please consider to make more strict ULEZ also for these kind of vehicles. 

Also Petrol mopeds and motorcycles are very loud and they cause noise pollution. In some Borough nights delivery are not allowed with petrol mopeds and motorcycles, it could be interesting to prohibit evening and night delivery with petrol vehicles and to allow just electric ones

 

Thanks a lot

 

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How about you stop boasting that you've frozen fares when travel cards continue to go up far more than inflation every year. The people that benefit most are those who live outside London, not those of us who live here and  rely on public...

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How about you stop boasting that you've frozen fares when travel cards continue to go up far more than inflation every year. The people that benefit most are those who live outside London, not those of us who live here and  rely on public transport to get to work everyday which has become a lot harder since a load of bus routes were cancelled/shortened last year (the 45 bus being a good example of a terrible one to shorten). Londoners voted for you based on the promise of fare caps and we've had nothing to help those of us who use it the most

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The city would benefit from:

- Transforming the half or more of the current streets with traffic in green-streets, with no access to petrol vehicles, and much wider pavement area plenty of trees and plants.

- Promoting the use of electric...

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The city would benefit from:

- Transforming the half or more of the current streets with traffic in green-streets, with no access to petrol vehicles, and much wider pavement area plenty of trees and plants.

- Promoting the use of electric vehicles including bicycles and scooters, creating narrower and safer roads for those vehicles.

- Promoting or rewarding somehow people moving closer to their workplace or school/university, so they reduce the level of traffic.

- Promoting a widespread warehouse network or system, to support the growth of e-commerce and reduce the distance the drivers need to cover.

 

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The plans look good overall - with one notable exception that could affect a huge part of London: the proposed third runway at Heathrow.

An estimated 740,000 additional flights a year will seriously pollute the air we breathe: London's...

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The plans look good overall - with one notable exception that could affect a huge part of London: the proposed third runway at Heathrow.

An estimated 740,000 additional flights a year will seriously pollute the air we breathe: London's skies are already full of air traffic. In addition, there's noise pollution, affected sleep for anyone under the flight paths, the potential for disaster is greatly increased, and then there's the massive cash injection it'll take to make this a reality.

Please, please address this urgent issue. We don't need a third runway at Heathrow: what we actually need is more flights to other parts of the country - to help spread the wealth around the country and make it more accessible both for people living in the UK and international travelers. (After all, today's news doesn't inspire much confidence in HS2...)

London is already super congested on the ground and in public transport. Let's at least prevent the skies from turning into a simulation of Back To The Future II's overcrowding... Thanks

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The Mayor Of London team have not come up with a comprehensive plan to ensure adoption of Electric Vehicles. Instead, over 20 private companies have set up independent charging networks, many of which require annual subscriptions, however...

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The Mayor Of London team have not come up with a comprehensive plan to ensure adoption of Electric Vehicles. Instead, over 20 private companies have set up independent charging networks, many of which require annual subscriptions, however those networks are often limited to specific geographies like Marylebone only, or Camden only. It means people investing in new EV cars have a major challenge to figure out where to park, and where to charge, and to factor in the range of their vehicles when using them, and uncertainty as to whether charging is actually possible. Whilst having multiple charging vendors is good for consumer competition, over time we will end up with a city that has a huge number of networks and it will be chaotic and hard for consumers to use. If you take the Santander "Boris Bike" scheme, we can learn from it's success ie: having one network, the same bikes, the same terminals, the same way to pay and rent, and it's city wide and easy to use. Surely Mayor Of London should begin investment in a city wide electric network, modelled perhaps on BT Open Reach, that then allows multiple private vendors and operators to buy the charging network and sell it commercially to consumers? That way the charging esperience would be unform, city wide, and we could actually be WORLD LEADERS in EV charging, putting tax payers and consumers and the consumer experince first, helping adoption of EV and low emission vehicles, and reducing complexity and the barriers to adoption. Further more, the network could also be a revenue earner for the city over time, with profits available for further investment in clean air, and aiding the mayor's objectives to achieve a cleaner London. We know EV cars are the future. Why aren't we gearing up for it? There doesn't appear to be a plan. Happy to engage and discuss and share my experiences of working with BMW on their BMW i3, i3S, i8, i8 roadster models to name just a few.

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The Mayor should take the initiative and get all London councils to get together to produce a coherent London wide policy on recycling. It's so stupid that one borough will have one policy, e.g. blue wheelie bins for recycling and green for...

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The Mayor should take the initiative and get all London councils to get together to produce a coherent London wide policy on recycling. It's so stupid that one borough will have one policy, e.g. blue wheelie bins for recycling and green for non-recycling stuff, while the borough next to it uses green bins for recycling, black for non-recycling, etc. In some boroughs you can recycle almost everything while the borough next to it will only allow limited things. People who live in London often move from a home in one borough to another home in a different borough and it's pathetic that each borough has different recycling policies. No wonder many people can't be bothered with recycling. This is a good opportunity for the Mayor of London to support the people who live in this city at minimum additional cost to the budget.

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Totally agree with you Rrihard. Lack of consistency in policy is a big issue. There needs to be consistency between London boroughs and also in the departments within each council. It would be great if the boroughs that are performing well...

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Totally agree with you Rrihard. Lack of consistency in policy is a big issue. There needs to be consistency between London boroughs and also in the departments within each council. It would be great if the boroughs that are performing well could teach other boroughs so they can learn from each other. As you mentioned it would be much more efficient if they had one policy (such as a recycling policy) tried and tested and then rolled out across all boroughs. 

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I cannot believe that you are ignoring the people of East London and South East London by going ahead with the Silvertown Tunnel.  Four lanes of motorway will not go into two.  The pollution will. E appalling. Schools will be heavily...

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I cannot believe that you are ignoring the people of East London and South East London by going ahead with the Silvertown Tunnel.  Four lanes of motorway will not go into two.  The pollution will. E appalling. Schools will be heavily affected and those of us with breathing problems will be made to endure even more filthy air.

 

Your fine words mean nothing until this folly is cancelled. 

 

And then you need to reinstate the planned  Rotherhithe pedestrian and cycle way over the river.  

 

 

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Londoners are dying from dirty air. Urgent action needs to be taken. Why not ban diesel? Or at least tax it so heavily that diesel vehicles disappear from the roads. Make all buses electric as soon as possible - why wait till 2037? Build...

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Londoners are dying from dirty air. Urgent action needs to be taken. Why not ban diesel? Or at least tax it so heavily that diesel vehicles disappear from the roads. Make all buses electric as soon as possible - why wait till 2037? Build green walls around schools. Stop idling by imposing fines. Let us breathe.

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Roads - I understand the need for deliveries, taxis and buses for people ( I was on crutches last year for an injury and got a real flavour of how challenging it is with mobility issues trying to move around London as public transport didn...

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Roads - I understand the need for deliveries, taxis and buses for people ( I was on crutches last year for an injury and got a real flavour of how challenging it is with mobility issues trying to move around London as public transport didn't work needed to use taxis).

However the rest of the cars? Do we really need them all.  I sometimes walk from Charing Cross to Marylebone to avoid the bad air quality underground, but so much traffic, fumes and roads to cross not sure if walking is better? Less cars please soon!!

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It would be good to also consider the air quality in the underground stations and on trains. Commuting for work we have no choice but to spend significant amounts of time down there. I would like to see a plan for underground trains and...

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It would be good to also consider the air quality in the underground stations and on trains. Commuting for work we have no choice but to spend significant amounts of time down there. I would like to see a plan for underground trains and stations. I travel on the bakerloo line, the air quality is quite bad and trains very old.  I understand it's expensive so needs to be in phases but when? 

 

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The Business Plan indicates that fares income is expected to rise at around RPI which ignores the fact that Sadiq Khan has already promised to continue to freeze public transport fares if he gets re-elected, at least for 2020. So the...

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The Business Plan indicates that fares income is expected to rise at around RPI which ignores the fact that Sadiq Khan has already promised to continue to freeze public transport fares if he gets re-elected, at least for 2020. So the Business Plan may be totally unrealistic.

In summary the Business Plan and Budget demonstrate an incompetent Mayor and senior management at TfL who wish to get us all cycling, walking or using public transport while the road network gets worse. This results in more traffic congestion and more air pollution which most Londoners would prefer them to fix. The persistent financial mismanagement by the Mayor will also come home to roost sooner or later.

A good example of the result of his policies is actually shown in a photograph of an east London street in the Business Plan document. A long queue of traffic in one lane with the bus lane unused and few cyclists in the cycle lane!

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Everyone agrees that 99% of the problems with pollution is caused by traffic. 
Reducing the speed of traffic to 20mph is definitely not the solution, as cars have to use a lower gear to progress... Therefore more bangs in the engine to...

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Everyone agrees that 99% of the problems with pollution is caused by traffic. 
Reducing the speed of traffic to 20mph is definitely not the solution, as cars have to use a lower gear to progress... Therefore more bangs in the engine to travels the same distance.
Something else that really doesn't help is the insane number of traffic lights that are not in sync with each other. After Ken Livingstone introduced longer holds on the lights the traffic in London has been chaotic at best since.
Sort out the traffic light problem and get traffic moving more efficiently and smoothly 

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No they don't agree. Most air pollution comes from other sources than traffic. But your are right about the polluting impact of 20 mph speed limits.

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No they don't agree. Most air pollution comes from other sources than traffic. But your are right about the polluting impact of 20 mph speed limits.

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Thanks everyone for your views and helpful suggestions and ideas in this discussion on environment, transport and clean air.

The Budget Consultation is closing on Wednesday next week. If you have any other thoughts or comments to add, please let us know.

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Your proposals are great but the problem of air pollution is not solved quickly enough with capital investment only. In particular in outer London where there is still an engrained car culture, you need to win hearts and minds to buy into...

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Your proposals are great but the problem of air pollution is not solved quickly enough with capital investment only. In particular in outer London where there is still an engrained car culture, you need to win hearts and minds to buy into your policy. teach people how to cycle. have car free days and street parties. gradually increase parking permit charges for non electric cars. remove all charges for bicycle parking (in some local authorities renting a bike hanger costs just as much as a parking permit). teach parents at school about the benefits of walking and cycling (we still have loads of parents doing school runs by car in our area!). incentivise public sector employees to switch modes of transport. outlaw all car parking for new developments. introduce a car parking tax for retailers or companies providing car parking. there needs to be a real campaign to tackle air quality and before we get everyone on board, we have children growing up in toxic air.

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£12 for driving in central London at anytime and this fare goes from 12 to 12 so if I want to go at 11pm (when there is no traffic) and get out of the city center at 1am I have to pay double for 2 hours rather than if I drive in central...

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£12 for driving in central London at anytime and this fare goes from 12 to 12 so if I want to go at 11pm (when there is no traffic) and get out of the city center at 1am I have to pay double for 2 hours rather than if I drive in central London from 12am and 24 hours after. This system is just ridiculous, does my car not contaminate after Tower Bridge? This is a completely rip off. I would like to know if all the public cars are paying too this ridiculous amount E.g official cars, ambulances, buses, taxi drivers, police cars, etc... or maybe these cars doesn't contaminate. The elections are coming soon Mr Khan. Thank you! 

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The planned Silvertown Tunnel project will likely accomplish the precise opposite of its aims. Please reconsider pursuing this project further. Even losing some of the contractual agreed amount of the £1bn would ultimately improve the...

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The planned Silvertown Tunnel project will likely accomplish the precise opposite of its aims. Please reconsider pursuing this project further. Even losing some of the contractual agreed amount of the £1bn would ultimately improve the environment and transportation situation for Londoners. City planning studies have repeatedly shown that introducing more roads and other infrastructure such as tunnels simply 'induces demand' [source provided below], generating more traffic flows in order to fill this newfound capacity. The outcome is that this tunnel will give further route options for drivers, the most polluting transportation per person in London. This will generate localised air pollution for those local communities and work against aims to reduce the number of cars on our roads.

I can appreciate that in the run up to an election, backing out of a contracted agreement could appear 'weak', but what would be a stronger message for an open London than doubling down spending on cycle lanes, pedestrianised areas and electric buses? The cycleway project that is reshaping one of Southwark's main roads costs £50m, imagine what could done with the tunnel budget.

Source: CityLab's article 'CityLab University: Induced Demand'

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Can we please have more RED ROUTES for buses. BigBren, Holland Park.

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Can we please have more RED ROUTES for buses. BigBren, Holland Park.

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