Adult education courses
Have you ever taken or considered taking an adult education course? Why or why not?
City Hall now has control of London’s share of the Adult Education Budget (AEB), which is over £300 million and funds education and training for adults aged 19 and older.
The AEB funds basic skills qualifications, including English, maths and English for speakers of other languages; in addition, the budget subsidises courses and learning opportunities across a range of other focuses, such as: foreign-languages; sports; business; or creative courses like writing or art.
Have you ever taken or considered taking an adult education course? Why or why not? What do you think are the main benefits of taking an adult education course? If you have already been on a course, how did it benefit you?
Tell us in the discussion below. To tell us what kind of courses you’d be interested in, join our other discussion.
The discussion ran from 02 March 2020 - 02 June 2020
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Log into your accountBruce Dickson
Community Member 5 years agoI remember the good old days of Floodlight when I first came to London in the 1970s. A great opportunity to further one's knowledge and meet people. Sadly those days of enlightened government have been destroyed by austerity.
I'm now...
Show full commentI remember the good old days of Floodlight when I first came to London in the 1970s. A great opportunity to further one's knowledge and meet people. Sadly those days of enlightened government have been destroyed by austerity.
I'm now retired and have time to continue increasing my knowledge
Show less of commentalggomas
Community Member 5 years agoI would take a course if I could pay in interest free instalments or if it lead to an interview and a job, this would encourage me to apply.
However although many courses are offered if there are not enough people applying then the...
Show full commentI would take a course if I could pay in interest free instalments or if it lead to an interview and a job, this would encourage me to apply.
However although many courses are offered if there are not enough people applying then the course is not given.
There should be a discount for residential pensioners or people on benefits. If on benefits then course must be job related rather than hobby .
Show less of commentVeryBerry
Community Member 5 years agoI would like to to a course to help me find employment but I don't want to take the loan to pay for the course. It would be good if courses could be offered where there are particular labour shortages with the course leading to guaranteed...
Show full commentI would like to to a course to help me find employment but I don't want to take the loan to pay for the course. It would be good if courses could be offered where there are particular labour shortages with the course leading to guaranteed employment.
Show less of commentrose.galvin
Community Member 5 years agoI agree that gaining a qualification is often not necessary and is not the reason I would do a course. Also [in the case of a course I have recently completed] the need to provide detailed lesson plans etc is a disincentive to the tutor -...
Show full commentI agree that gaining a qualification is often not necessary and is not the reason I would do a course. Also [in the case of a course I have recently completed] the need to provide detailed lesson plans etc is a disincentive to the tutor - the course is good and the tutor skilled but the amount of time the paper work takes compared to the fee she gains from running the course has put her off running courses next year.
One barrier is in actually finding out about courses - some are run by local councils but many others are run by other organisations and finding out about these can be a random mix of coming across leaflets, google searches which have inadvertently led to links to courses, word of mouth etc etc - a central register would be very useful. Other barriers can be location - even with local borough courses - years ago these were located in a number of school/ community buildings across the borough- but now they are usually located 1 one location within a borough which is not always easy for everyone within the borough to access.
irene1810
Community Member 5 years agoGetting a qualification can definately help but in my field of the art and creative industry is not always necessary.
Show full commentGetting a qualification can definately help but in my field of the art and creative industry is not always necessary.
Show less of commentTalk London
Official Representative 5 years agoThanks everyone for sharing your thoughts on and experience with adult education courses in this discussion.
A few of you have mentioned qualifications as a benefit, while others thinks that qualifications shouldn't be the only focus of taking a course.
While the Adult Education Budget supports the statutory entitlements, it is also used to support a range of other courses that offer strong social benefits. Such courses may help learners engage in learning, build confidence, and/or enhance their wellbeing, as well as encouraging social integration amongst different groups.
Are there any other benefits you could think of? Or have you come across any barriers? If so, what were they?
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Concerned1
Community Member 5 years agoI have taken and will continue to take adult education course as long as I am able to. To look into a subject that is totally new to me, to review a favourite pastime in a different way with a different tutor and group of learners the same...
Show full commentI have taken and will continue to take adult education course as long as I am able to. To look into a subject that is totally new to me, to review a favourite pastime in a different way with a different tutor and group of learners the same subject/topic becomes fresh and new. Any course I do keeps my brain ticking over, encourages my thinking, forces me out of my shell, encourages me to speak up, and has other benefits when I am able to make new friends or share what I have learnt with others or recommend a course!
Show less of commentksmt
Community Member 5 years agoThe courses I have taken at the City Lit over the years have benefitted me greatly and given me great joy. I was able to progress to an arts degree and post degree went back to learn new skills which have helped me develop my art practice...
Show full commentThe courses I have taken at the City Lit over the years have benefitted me greatly and given me great joy. I was able to progress to an arts degree and post degree went back to learn new skills which have helped me develop my art practice. Unfortunately the courses have become more an more expensive due to subsidy cuts. Adult education is incredibly important for older people to keep mentally active and to meet people but they are being priced out of it in many cases.
Show less of commentMichael_Young
Community Member 5 years agoAs a lifelong learner, who started at 16, I agree entirely. The cost of this element of 'further eduction' has become prohibitive, due to short-sighted short-term budget cuts. The 'sales' projection is that courses will lead to better...
Show full commentAs a lifelong learner, who started at 16, I agree entirely. The cost of this element of 'further eduction' has become prohibitive, due to short-sighted short-term budget cuts. The 'sales' projection is that courses will lead to better earning power, but that ignores the much wider benefits derived from a larger number of individuals' broader understanding of the world and its people, plus keeping the mind sharp as the years roll by. These are benefits that accrue to society as a whole.
Stephen Singleton
Community Member 5 years agoNot convinced that those courses that don't offer a measurable qualification needs all the form filling and measuring mechanisms. It's a waste of time and money. And to be quite frank I think it puts people off.
Show full commentNot convinced that those courses that don't offer a measurable qualification needs all the form filling and measuring mechanisms. It's a waste of time and money. And to be quite frank I think it puts people off.
Show less of commentCaro1000
Community Member 5 years agoI have retired from the workplace but strongly believe in lifetime learning. I always attended courses of some sort, either to improve my skills in the workplace or to keep my mind active, to learn new skills, take up new hobbies and to be...
Show full commentI have retired from the workplace but strongly believe in lifetime learning. I always attended courses of some sort, either to improve my skills in the workplace or to keep my mind active, to learn new skills, take up new hobbies and to be motivated. Sadly there are very few available now and the cost is prohibitive for many especially those on a pension., There used to be a large choice of options but exceedingly few now. I recently started Silversmithing did one term and then the class shut down, such a shame! At another institution I also started warm glass, that class shut down and the institution also. Our library talks have stopped!, Cutbacks again and revamping of libraries. Very difficult now to keep one's mind active, There are a few groups on basic digital technology but they don't progress any further! I am forever being asked how to carry out certain tasks by older people. Once retired we are now left to stagnate apart of course from the usual luncheon clubs and tai chi but sorry, I want more than that. We don't even have a sports hall in the 2 leisure centres in the part of Barnet I live in, almost 7 miles and an hours journey to the nearest sports hall in the other leisure centres!
Show less of commentNigelw101
Community Member 5 years agoI'm recently retired. I have never been to an adult education class.
I would like to know more about what is available for me that is free or wouldn't cost too much. I have the time, I want to keep active (so a sport or keep fit option...
Show full commentI'm recently retired. I have never been to an adult education class.
I would like to know more about what is available for me that is free or wouldn't cost too much. I have the time, I want to keep active (so a sport or keep fit option would be attractive), perhaps learn a new skill (e.g. pottery, spoken Spanish) or become better at something (e.g. spoken French, art appreciation).
I also want to learn about my local area and find options where I can volunteer somewhere and make a difference (perhaps a charity, local school or hospital).
Show less of commentAnonymous - account deleted
Community Member 5 years agoI have taken several adult education courses in the distant past, they are a great way to learn new skills whether vocational or just as a hobby. It's also a good setting to meet other like-minded people. I am a firm believer in lifelong...
Show full commentI have taken several adult education courses in the distant past, they are a great way to learn new skills whether vocational or just as a hobby. It's also a good setting to meet other like-minded people. I am a firm believer in lifelong learning. My current work pattern would make it difficult to attend a course now but I am likely to start taking courses again when I retire.
Show less of commentDandareman
Community Member 5 years agoThe £300 miliion would be unarguably be better used on More Police in London tjis would Help Reduce CRIME RAPES DEATHS IN LONDON
Show full commentThe £300 miliion would be unarguably be better used on More Police in London tjis would Help Reduce CRIME RAPES DEATHS IN LONDON
Show less of commenttamaragalloway
Community Member 5 years agoI've really enjoyed taking courses in songwriting and creative music, for example at Morley College and the City Lit.
They prevented me getting really depressed after I lost my job.
Now I have my own YouTube channel and put my own songs...
Show full commentI've really enjoyed taking courses in songwriting and creative music, for example at Morley College and the City Lit.
They prevented me getting really depressed after I lost my job.
Now I have my own YouTube channel and put my own songs on it!
Show less of commentMichael_Young
Community Member 5 years agoCongratulations.
Didn't know that such courses existed.
Show full commentCongratulations.
Didn't know that such courses existed.
Show less of commentarte1misia
Community Member 5 years agoFrom 2004 to 2011 I gained a bachelor and postgraduate degrees. I miss the commitment.
Studying is amazing! Even at an older age . I used different skills than when I was young like being persistent and constantly on the books rather than...
Show full commentFrom 2004 to 2011 I gained a bachelor and postgraduate degrees. I miss the commitment.
Studying is amazing! Even at an older age . I used different skills than when I was young like being persistent and constantly on the books rather than use my ( gone now) good memory and I'd be happy to start to study again
Show less of commentRugbygirl
Community Member 5 years agoChanges to the pensionable age means I now need to work for much longer than anticipated. My experience is that age is most definitely a barrier to continued working in a useful or fulfilling role - despite the government commentary. Re...
Show full commentChanges to the pensionable age means I now need to work for much longer than anticipated. My experience is that age is most definitely a barrier to continued working in a useful or fulfilling role - despite the government commentary. Re-training and continued learning seem a logical step in my head to remaining employable - but the real experience has been something completely different. Learning is a life-long love for me - so even if it does absolutely nothing to assist in the workplace it keeps my mind active and provides a feeling of achievement. Access to low cost learning or re-training for adults of any age seems a no brainer to me if we are to utilise our available workforce appropriately - particularly with the continued 'brexit' saga. Learning is a human thing - not a youthful thing.
Show less of commentudeogu
Community Member 5 years agoI am approaching retirement age and my destiny is severe poverty in my old age. Since immigrating to the UK 37years ago, i am severely restricted because of my disabilities and other challenges and therefore have been unable to hold down a...
Show full commentI am approaching retirement age and my destiny is severe poverty in my old age. Since immigrating to the UK 37years ago, i am severely restricted because of my disabilities and other challenges and therefore have been unable to hold down a job.. I do need any training that will help me to be more competitive in the job market, otherwise i will die in abject poverty.My faith is in the hands of human being and that of the almighty God.
Show less of commentDavid Chung
Community Member 5 years agoHave you ever taken or considered taking an adult education course?
I have taken several adult education short courses in computing and Spanish for beginners. Because I am a firm believer in lifelong learning.
What do you think are the...
Show full commentHave you ever taken or considered taking an adult education course?
I have taken several adult education short courses in computing and Spanish for beginners. Because I am a firm believer in lifelong learning.
What do you think are the main benefits of taking an adult education course?
The main benefits of taking adult education courses is to keep my mind active and to meet people in these settings.
I have already been on a course,I benefited from these courses you in progressing my understanding of these subjects and going on to do futher work.
Show less of commentDolphin
Community Member 5 years agoI would like to learn Italian but there are no local courses and the specialized colleges charge a prohibitive amount. Exams should be voluntary as I don't necessarily need more qualifications, just the enjoyment of learning something new
Show full commentI would like to learn Italian but there are no local courses and the specialized colleges charge a prohibitive amount. Exams should be voluntary as I don't necessarily need more qualifications, just the enjoyment of learning something new
Show less of commentlemongranita
Community Member 5 years agoGiven my level of educational privilege (I have a degree and professional qualifications) I'd mainly rather the AEB was spent on people with less access to self-teaching or private tuition.
I would agree with the comments that engaging...
Show full commentGiven my level of educational privilege (I have a degree and professional qualifications) I'd mainly rather the AEB was spent on people with less access to self-teaching or private tuition.
I would agree with the comments that engaging with learning and finding personal satisfaction and progress are important and valid aims with or without qualifications. Adults should be allowed to learn things without always having to subject themselves to exams unless they want to.
As a sports club chair, what I would love to see is funded courses that support volunteers, such as first aid courses/refreshers, charity/club governance skills (basic accounting, safeguarding etc) -- this would save our budgets for actual activities and open up possibilities.
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