• Question by: Angie Bray
• Meeting date: 12 December 2007

They obviously have a knock on effect.

• Question by: Angie Bray
• Meeting date: 12 December 2007

Would you agree with me, and I would think Peter Hendy too, that the proliferation of these traffic lights, whoever is responsible for putting them in, is actually a cause of the fact that congestion levels are creeping back to very high levels again?

• Question by: Angie Bray
• Meeting date: 12 December 2007

The problem is of course that traffic lights causing congestion equals traffic lights causing unnecessary pollution.

• Question by: Angie Bray
• Meeting date: 12 December 2007

I am saying there should be a balance.

• Question by: Angie Bray
• Meeting date: 12 December 2007

We have talked about the number of traffic lights but another issue of course is the re-phasing of traffic lights. I hear what you say about national standards and we have had this before, you and I: `Ken equals red lights' and all that back in 2002, when the re-phasing started. The key to good traffic management and the responsibility of TfL, may I suggest, is to get the balance right. Yes, of course pedestrians need to cross safely but also you need to keep the traffic flowing. Would it not be fair to say that in many ways, because...

• Question by: Angie Bray
• Meeting date: 12 December 2007

Are we not in a position where you are meeting one set of targets and failing on another? The fact is that they are not able to be pursued in the same way. You have to get a balance between getting people safely across the road but you have to get the traffic moving.

• Question by: Richard Barnes
• Meeting date: 12 December 2007

On others it would be more dangerous. Can I refer you to a particular road where you would be almost committing suicide if you crossed with your eyes closed; that is Horn Lane in Acton where, sadly, a gentleman was killed only last week. In 2005 TfL promised the then Labour administration that a crossing would be put in on Horn Lane. It has not happened. It was relatively recently voted one of the worst roads in the whole of the country. When is Transport for London, which you chair, going to live up to its responsibilities and bring Horn...

• Question by: Mike Tuffrey
• Meeting date: 12 December 2007

I would agree with that, but the former point, given that it has to be a partnership with the boroughs, and you have acknowledged there is a role for the boroughs, to then demand to have control of the board was not a partnership.

• Question by: Mike Tuffrey
• Meeting date: 12 December 2007

The Government offered you the Chair and four places on the Board and you have taken your bat and ball and will not play. It is a bit rich to then complain in your report to us what a shambles it is, if you will not actually join in, however unhappy you are about where ultimate responsibility sits. Can I ask you specifically about funding, because on Monday the Government announced £60 million of money that already goes to the boroughs. They have recycled it, but the original plan was that you were going to put in £6 million a...

• Question by: Geoff Pope
• Meeting date: 12 December 2007

How much is all that going to cost? When will we know?