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Strategic Health Authority (Supplementary) [3]

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Meeting: Plenary on 18 June 2014
Session name: Plenary on 18/06/2014 between 13:00 and 15:00
Question by: Joanne McCartney
Organisation: Labour Group
Asked of: Lord Darzi, Chair of the London Health Commission

Question

Strategic Health Authority (Supplementary) [3]

Joanne McCartney AM:  I just want to come back to the role of strategic oversights of health services in London.  Lord Darzi, you said earlier that issues cannot be dealt with by local boroughs and commissioning groups or the health and wellbeing boards.  You gave estates as an example.  You have also stated that one of the legacies of the strategic oversight for London was the reconfiguration of stroke services.  I am just wondering, in the future, given that we have national and local, what is there now in London to deliver that pace of change?  If we do not have that we are going to be failing patients.

 

When answering that, one of the things that was very good about the London Strategic Health Authority was that we saw a lot less of the postcode lottery that we had seen before because there were priorities set for our city as a whole.  Where is that leadership now on that level if we do not have some other body in place?  Are we going to go back to postcode?  Where is the accountability as well?  We have seen with the debacle with Lewisham Hospital; the intervention of the Secretary of State has actually not provided any confidence to local residents down there, in fact it has done exactly the opposite.

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Answer

Date: Tuesday 17 June 2014

Professor the Lord Darzi (Chair, London Health Commission):  You have thrown a large number of questions there, which in many ways I did touch on before. 

 

Firstly to say we do have a NHS England office in terms of managing the estate.  Coming back to the stroke and trauma, that was the output of London: A Framework for Action.  The people who made that change were the clinicians on the ground.  It was not a Strategic Health Authority who banged heads around and made sure that it was happening. 

 

Joanne McCartney AM (Chairman):  Where is that city-wide oversight in future?  Where is the accountability?

 

Professor the Lord Darzi (Chair, London Health Commission):  It is a different world.  It is not just health.  It is not just one organisation called the Strategic Health Authority.  It is a different world.  It is a world in which local government has a big say and boroughs have a big say in what happens at a local level.  It is a bit like saying, “Who is going to co-ordinate the 32 boroughs?” 

 

Joanne McCartney AM (Chairman):  There is.  It is London Councils.

 

Professor the Lord Darzi (Chair, London Health Commission):  We are seeing clusters of CCGs in certain parts, coming in and working together.  I absolutely agree with the question.  I am trying to find out does that actually give the following answer is the issue.  I still have four months to think about this.

 

Simon Weldon (Regional Director of Operations and Delivery, NHS England (London)):  I would add to that, to think that 32 CCGs sit in splendid isolation and do not talk to one another is, of course, not the case.  They collaborate together all the time.  Look at north west London.  The eight CCGs have worked entirely together to deliver Shaping a Healthier Future.  That is not something that could be led by one CCG.  It is something that has been led by them altogether.  Look at the South East London CCGs.  Despite the issues around the Trust Special Administrator process, what was really evident in that was that the CCGs came together to provide leadership for their local community, and try to make the best of what they found in that process. 

 

The fact is that CCGs are working together, not only in their local systems; they are developing much stronger relationships.  When I ask CCGs what has been a big benefit of the new system, they say they have immeasurably strengthened their relationships with local government.  That has been a real benefit for them.  They would absolutely own to that.  They also recognise that to get some of the changes that they need to happen, they are going to have to work together. 

 

The second point I would make is that they are often collaborating together around clinical standards and around how they set frameworks to make sure that clinical care, when it is delivered, like we did with stroke, like we did with trauma, is delivered in the same way across London.  We work with them regularly as a group, right across London, to deliver that.  We are embarking upon a piece of work, for example, to look at how we can improve the quality of mental healthcare; again, doing that collaboratively between NHS England and the CCGs.