London Environment Strategy consultation

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London Environment Strategy consultation

Food waste and recycling

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To what extent do you think about the environment when making food choices? Do you tend to recycle packaging or food waste? If not, why not? What would encourage you do to more?

The discussion ran from 10 May 2018 - 29 August 2018

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I've definitely been making more conscious choices recently, but haven't always been successful:

- It's difficult to weigh up the environmental impact of a product given that one may be plastic-free, but another may be from a local source...

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I've definitely been making more conscious choices recently, but haven't always been successful:

- It's difficult to weigh up the environmental impact of a product given that one may be plastic-free, but another may be from a local source and therefore have a smaller carbon footprint, or another may contain chemicals that impact on the environment as waste. It would be good to have agreed summary ratings for how eco-friendly products are in order to help inform decision-making.

- I have no access to composting, so food waste is binned. I'm not sure people would adhere to recycling/composting rules in my local area.

- Local recycling is very limited compared to my parents' local council, so I tend to stockpile washed plastic waste and get them to take it down to their house when they visit by car.

- Supermarkets have very limited selections of items without plastic packaging, I try to choose these wherever possible, and reuse plastic bags for bin liners / lunch bags. I would definitely welcome more plastic-free packaging, or the ability to bring your own receptacle / return plastic to shops for reuse.

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I live in a block of flats and people don't always follow the rules of the recycling.  We're always getting bin bags and clothing dumped in the recycling bin.  The council locked the recycling bin once and piled up the black sacks next to...

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I live in a block of flats and people don't always follow the rules of the recycling.  We're always getting bin bags and clothing dumped in the recycling bin.  The council locked the recycling bin once and piled up the black sacks next to it.  I suppose the message must have got through, but there are always new tenants moving in anyway.  They don't always educate themselves on the rubbish rules.

The same is true with public recycling bins.  People throw anything in.

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If Britain, indeed the developed world, was GENUINELY serious about the environment and, in particular, the damage being wrought by air travel, then here's a radical thought. Put a stop to the year-round availability in supermarkets of all...

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If Britain, indeed the developed world, was GENUINELY serious about the environment and, in particular, the damage being wrought by air travel, then here's a radical thought. Put a stop to the year-round availability in supermarkets of all manner of fruit and vegetables imported from every corner of the earth. During the 1950s and 1960s, shoppers bought was was seasonally available in their own country. But now ... yes, it's great I can eat rasperries and strawberries throughout the year - BUT AT WHAT COST TO THE ENVIRONMENT? That's why I urge politicians to start putting a stop to this nonsense NOW and persuade the public that, in putting the environment first, shoppers and supermarkets must change their ways.

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Well start making the jams, then.  And make friends with your dentist!

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The welfare/wealth/convenience/emotional upset of humans should NEVER be considered in food policy.

Only animal welfare, the environment & food quality, in that order.

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Does that mean it's OK for humans to starve?  Surely human welfare has SOME significance!

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I think about the environment all the time. It is important to my being. I try to grow vegetables and when I buy try to buy locally at Turkish greengrocers without packages. When I do have packaging I recycle it and food waste too. I think...

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I think about the environment all the time. It is important to my being. I try to grow vegetables and when I buy try to buy locally at Turkish greengrocers without packages. When I do have packaging I recycle it and food waste too. I think plastic packaging should be banned on food.

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I live in Hackney and we have recycling collections every week for food waste and other recyclables, and every two weeks for garden waste. One of the main problems with food waste recycling is storing it. If you leave the caddies outside...

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I live in Hackney and we have recycling collections every week for food waste and other recyclables, and every two weeks for garden waste. One of the main problems with food waste recycling is storing it. If you leave the caddies outside, foxers tend to come and get into it, and if you have it indoors, it gets smelly by the end of the week and takes up too much space. I know quite a few of my neighbours do not recycle food waste for these reasons. Personally I think food waste should be recycled, but I wonder if there is a more effective and efficient way of doing it. I also think it would be good to try to stop people wasting food in the first place.

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I find the whole system complicated and unworkable - i try to empty things into the correct bins, food and garden is the easiest to work out - but the unrecyclable and the recyclable are not very clearly marked, and in every single borough...

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I find the whole system complicated and unworkable - i try to empty things into the correct bins, food and garden is the easiest to work out - but the unrecyclable and the recyclable are not very clearly marked, and in every single borough in the UK the rules seem to be different about what you can mix up!

UK needs a clear unified national system......to be instigaged...so everyone body knows what they need to do, including marking of plastic  / reclyclable items, where to put them, and a national system of separating things....ie what goes in what bin.....even a national colour code for bins would be useful.

The food I eat is not defined by the packaging, although I prefer not to eat processed food where possible. 

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How insane is it that every council seems to have it's own recycling scheme, done in a differenct way to everyone else?

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I choose to buy my fruit and vegetables from a local vendor. No plastic involved. And I also support local farmers by having a fruit/vegetable box delivered to us. It works better for us: cheaper and more enviromental-friendly. I have also...

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I choose to buy my fruit and vegetables from a local vendor. No plastic involved. And I also support local farmers by having a fruit/vegetable box delivered to us. It works better for us: cheaper and more enviromental-friendly. I have also switched to making my own laundry/washing cleaners with natural products.  Thanks God our borough takes recycling from us every 2 weeks (for how long? no idea). Food waste is composted for our garden so we also save money on buying products for the garden. The truth is that as we have to tighten our belts because of the economy uncertainty, we have devised ways of saving money that result in minimum waste at our household.

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A fruit and vegetable box is EXPENSIVE.  It requires van delivery to your door, as well.  Buying fruit and veg at the supermarket is much, much cheaper.  Buy the loose ones and re-use the bags you use to weigh them.

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I do try to recycle everything. Unfortunately there is a lot of packing materials that are nonrecyclable and that\s the problem we have to attack. Packaging should be done in a way that it can be recycled so people does'nt have to throw it...

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I do try to recycle everything. Unfortunately there is a lot of packing materials that are nonrecyclable and that\s the problem we have to attack. Packaging should be done in a way that it can be recycled so people does'nt have to throw it to the normal garbage. On the other hand, I believe that yes, compost should be mado and maybe used in order to lower the pricing of the ones sold in the street.

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As already stated London needs a city wide composting scheme, We do not have a container for food waste, so my food waste goes in the public bin, I would keep it for the dustman for unfortunently they only collect once a week.

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As already stated London needs a city wide composting scheme, We do not have a container for food waste, so my food waste goes in the public bin, I would keep it for the dustman for unfortunently they only collect once a week.

Also the packageing on fresh fruit and veg is just disgraceful, I go shopping once a week and end up with a carrier bad full up with wrappings from the food I have just bought, all the good things we are suppose to eat like fresh fruit and veg, are all covered in plastic, and some of them 2 coats of plastic, it is a nightmare !!!!

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Can't your food waste wait a week for the dustman?  Mine does.

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I do my best to buy fruit and vegetables produced in this country hoping that less energy is used transporting them. I also have a compost bin which works very well and put meat, bones, bread in to the food waste bin provided by my local...

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I do my best to buy fruit and vegetables produced in this country hoping that less energy is used transporting them. I also have a compost bin which works very well and put meat, bones, bread in to the food waste bin provided by my local council. Glass, plastics and paper and general rubbish are also taken away by the council having been sorted in to the appropriate containers.We have six bins in total.

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Yes but, if other countries can't sell us their goods, their people get on the plane and come here instead. 

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Recycle - always - but not able to compost.

A facility where this is possible would be welcome. Where I buy food a lot of the packing is now compostable.

plastic packaging is a plague

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Packaging: I try to buy produce that is not packaged although this is increasingly difficult to find - in particular with online deliveries where the retailers want us to buy a pack of 4 items and so on.  This should be prohibited as much...

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Packaging: I try to buy produce that is not packaged although this is increasingly difficult to find - in particular with online deliveries where the retailers want us to buy a pack of 4 items and so on.  This should be prohibited as much as possible.  All produce should be unpackaged or packaged only in fully recycable packaging, which mostly is not. All small rolls of plastic bags in grocery retailers (used to put your produce in) should be replaced by cheap recycled paper bags or with recyclable food bags (such as those used for refuse collection food bins.

Food waste: Again the multipack drive means that you might be forced to purchase more than you need - increasing food waste.  Similarly there are a lot of 2 for 1 offers etc. which again encourage consumers to buy larger quantities and create more food waste. I think the 'Best Before' date should eliminated as consumers perceive that to be a date after which they should be discarding the produce.  Often that's not necessarily the case. An example of that is milk / dairy products, which can be find several dates past those dates.

I believe we should be forcing retailers/manufacturers to do more to invest in recyclable packaging / having no packaging by having heavy tax on those products that do.  This would make the products with recyclable packaging/ without packaging the cheaper alternatives driving consumption for the mass consumer into the right direction.  Typically money speaks.  Education would be nice but we know from other debates such as healthy nutrition that the impact is far lower on actual behaviour.

Agree that all boroughs should also recycle food waste and collect food waste.

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Re: Best Before dates.

I stopped buying grapes at Poundland because they had no best before dates and they didn't always seem that fresh.  I still don't buy fruit at Poundland because I don't have much confidence in the freshness of it.

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Re: Best Before dates.

I stopped buying grapes at Poundland because they had no best before dates and they didn't always seem that fresh.  I still don't buy fruit at Poundland because I don't have much confidence in the freshness of it.

It's difficult for staff and consumers to sort food if it has no date on it.   I don't know which milk bottle to drink first if I can't compare dates.  There was a programme on TV a few years ago about fruit and veg rotting on the shelf at Aldi.  None of it had a date on it.

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Food choices are made on what i like, want and can afford.  My council has a 5 bin collection which is difficult to manage but has to be done.  Then the council where i work has a 3 bin collection - both are operated by Veolia - and i...

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Food choices are made on what i like, want and can afford.  My council has a 5 bin collection which is difficult to manage but has to be done.  Then the council where i work has a 3 bin collection - both are operated by Veolia - and i wonder if all the waste goes to the same operational plant for processing.  Recycle packaging and food waste at home and work would be 'yes' but i am not sure if Veolia resort the waste at the processing plant.  

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We recycle as much as possible along with compost. In Southwark we have a great recycle centre for all the big or large items. 

Napkins could do with a change. Currently a napkin comes in two half's. We cut in half and one use half each...

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We recycle as much as possible along with compost. In Southwark we have a great recycle centre for all the big or large items. 

Napkins could do with a change. Currently a napkin comes in two half's. We cut in half and one use half each. Don't need more. If simple and has little impact except on ribs night. 

Encourage more bars and restaurants to stop serving with plastic straws. 

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I bought some cotton napkins in Woolworths years ago and I'm still using them (washing them in the washing machine, of course).

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There needs to be a push to ensure that healthy food is more affordable for people. Also plastic packaging should be removed - most of it, especially the film, cannot be recycled.

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We recycle as much as we can.  However, the packaging of ALL food stuffs needs to be reduced to the absolute minimum.  What is wrong with selling foodstuff loose like we used to do many years ago?  There was very little food poisoning and...

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We recycle as much as we can.  However, the packaging of ALL food stuffs needs to be reduced to the absolute minimum.  What is wrong with selling foodstuff loose like we used to do many years ago?  There was very little food poisoning and the like then.  There is no justification for excessive wrapping of these products.

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A lot but choice is limited. We have a greengrocer who sells mainly loose fruit in brown paper bags and veg, but is not open outside working hours. We have our own compost (smelly but rewarding) and the Council collect bones, cooked and...

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A lot but choice is limited. We have a greengrocer who sells mainly loose fruit in brown paper bags and veg, but is not open outside working hours. We have our own compost (smelly but rewarding) and the Council collect bones, cooked and baked food etc weekly. 

Could not supermarkets (who are open when we want to shop) use cardboard packaging and brown bags ? Is there no clear packaging that is recycable ?

How about reusable or swappable packaging ? It seems absurd to throw away egg containers, and why not have similar for other loose fruit. Plastic is acceptable when it is reused and eventually recyclable,

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We live in a larger modern tower in Tower Hamlets and the council doesn't seem to provide composting options for us. So the organic waste just goes into the normal waste - which really hurts. I think it should be mandatory for councils to...

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We live in a larger modern tower in Tower Hamlets and the council doesn't seem to provide composting options for us. So the organic waste just goes into the normal waste - which really hurts. I think it should be mandatory for councils to provide organic waste collection.

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I always think about the environment when buying food, and recycle wherever possible.

I do my main grocery shopping online and it's nigh on impossible to get vegetables in anything other than plastic wrapping. 

All plastic wrapping should...

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I always think about the environment when buying food, and recycle wherever possible.

I do my main grocery shopping online and it's nigh on impossible to get vegetables in anything other than plastic wrapping. 

All plastic wrapping should be scrapped, especially as we now know there are viable alternatives. 

 

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