Delivering Healthy Streets schemes [1]

Session date: 
February 7, 2019
Question By: 
Susan Hall
Organisation: 
GLA Conservatives
Asked Of: 
Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London) & Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner, Transport for London)

Question

Susan Hall AM:  Mr Mayor, in regard to Vision Zero, can you just tell us what your targets in terms of bus deaths will be by 2020?

 

Answers

Delivering Healthy Streets schemes [1]

Delivering Healthy Streets schemes [1]

Answered By: 
Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London) & Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner, Transport for London)

Sadiq Khan (Chair, Transport for London):  To hand I do not have the figure by 2020.  Do you have that figure?

 

Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner of Transport for London):  No, I do not have a specific target.  What I would say is and what it is worth saying is that there are a number of measures we are putting into play on buses with bus operators to ensure that we deliver a continual improvement.  Very unfortunately, the first pedestrian this year died this week because of a collision with a bus at Camden.  I am of course very sorry that that happened.  There are things like the type of technology that applies speed restrictions to buses automatically so that the bus drivers do not ‑‑

 

Susan Hall AM:  Yes, we applaud Vision Zero, we do, but it will be the end of the Mayoralty and it would be super to see just how well this Mayor has done.  Assembly Member Pidgeon has already said that it is difficult to get interim targets and the pace of delivery is slow, and I agree with her.  Given that and given it is the end of the Mayor’s term, what are you aiming for?  What would you like to see?

 

Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner of Transport for London):  I would like to see zero.  Let me be very clear.  Any single death or serious injury on London’s road network, whether it involves a bus or anything else, is one too many and so ‑‑

 

Susan Hall AM:  Yes, we all appreciate that.  Do you not have a figure?

 

Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner of Transport for London):  Everything that we are doing to ensure that bus driver training, for example, the next phase of London-wide bus driver training is applied with ‑‑

 

Susan Hall AM:  No, that is not the question.  With respect, yes, I appreciate all of that, but that is not the question.  Mr Mayor, I asked you what figure do you hope to get to or what are you aiming for by the end of this Mayoralty in 2020?

 

Sadiq Khan (Chair, Transport for London):  I am aiming for a reduction in the amount of deaths and serious injuries there are ‑‑

 

Susan Hall AM:  Of course, but by how much?

 

Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner of Transport for London):  A 70% reduction in deaths and serious injuries by 2022 is the aim from the current level.  I cannot quite compute that back to what it would mean by 2020, but that is the trajectory that we are seeking to do.

 

Susan Hall AM:  Given it is the end of the Mayoralty in 2020, do you think you could get us some figures so that we can all see how well - or not - you have done?

 

Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner of Transport for London):  I work on a continual basis, with the greatest of respect.  I do not work to Mayoral terms.  I work to deliver the right outcomes for a safer London.

 

Susan Hall AM:  No, but the Mayor does, with respect, and you are working to the Mayor.  Perhaps you can look at that to see if we could have some figures because we do want to hold you to account and it would be nice to see just how well - or not - you are doing on that particular thing.  Thank you, Chairman.

 

Delivering Healthy Streets schemes [1]

Delivering Healthy Streets schemes [1]

Answered By: 
Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London) & Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner, Transport for London)

Sadiq Khan (Chair, Transport for London):  To hand I do not have the figure by 2020.  Do you have that figure?

 

Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner of Transport for London):  No, I do not have a specific target.  What I would say is and what it is worth saying is that there are a number of measures we are putting into play on buses with bus operators to ensure that we deliver a continual improvement.  Very unfortunately, the first pedestrian this year died this week because of a collision with a bus at Camden.  I am of course very sorry that that happened.  There are things like the type of technology that applies speed restrictions to buses automatically so that the bus drivers do not ‑‑

 

Susan Hall AM:  Yes, we applaud Vision Zero, we do, but it will be the end of the Mayoralty and it would be super to see just how well this Mayor has done.  Assembly Member Pidgeon has already said that it is difficult to get interim targets and the pace of delivery is slow, and I agree with her.  Given that and given it is the end of the Mayor’s term, what are you aiming for?  What would you like to see?

 

Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner of Transport for London):  I would like to see zero.  Let me be very clear.  Any single death or serious injury on London’s road network, whether it involves a bus or anything else, is one too many and so ‑‑

 

Susan Hall AM:  Yes, we all appreciate that.  Do you not have a figure?

 

Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner of Transport for London):  Everything that we are doing to ensure that bus driver training, for example, the next phase of London-wide bus driver training is applied with ‑‑

 

Susan Hall AM:  No, that is not the question.  With respect, yes, I appreciate all of that, but that is not the question.  Mr Mayor, I asked you what figure do you hope to get to or what are you aiming for by the end of this Mayoralty in 2020?

 

Sadiq Khan (Chair, Transport for London):  I am aiming for a reduction in the amount of deaths and serious injuries there are ‑‑

 

Susan Hall AM:  Of course, but by how much?

 

Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner of Transport for London):  A 70% reduction in deaths and serious injuries by 2022 is the aim from the current level.  I cannot quite compute that back to what it would mean by 2020, but that is the trajectory that we are seeking to do.

 

Susan Hall AM:  Given it is the end of the Mayoralty in 2020, do you think you could get us some figures so that we can all see how well - or not - you have done?

 

Mike Brown MVO (Commissioner of Transport for London):  I work on a continual basis, with the greatest of respect.  I do not work to Mayoral terms.  I work to deliver the right outcomes for a safer London.

 

Susan Hall AM:  No, but the Mayor does, with respect, and you are working to the Mayor.  Perhaps you can look at that to see if we could have some figures because we do want to hold you to account and it would be nice to see just how well - or not - you are doing on that particular thing.  Thank you, Chairman.