Ultra Low Emission Zone consultation responses

MQT on 2018-03-22
Session date: 
March 22, 2018
Question By: 
Caroline Russell
City Hall Greens
Asked Of: 
The Mayor


How many responses were received from a) individuals and b) organisations in response to your consultation on changes to the Ultra Low Emission Zone and Low Emission Zone that closed on 28 February 2018?


Answer for Ultra Low Emission Zone consultation responses

Answer for Ultra Low Emission Zone consultation responses

Answered By: 
The Mayor

Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London):  Air pollution is one of the biggest issues facing London today.  I am determined to tackle it.  Can I, again, thank you, Assembly Member Russell, for your support on this issue?


Since being elected Mayor I have introduced the T-Charge in central London, brought forward the start date of the Ultra-Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) to April 2019 and invested in cleaning up London’s buses so that a third of all buses are cleaner Euro VI vehicles. 


The ULEZ has an important role to play to help tackle London’s toxic air, reduce emissions and protect people from harmful pollution.  The recent public consultation on our plan to expand the ULEZ and tighten the Low Emission Zone (LEZ) received over 40,000 responses.  I am delighted that so many Londoners responded to this consultation.  Indeed, Chairman, I understand that is the largest ever response to a TfL consultation.  In addition, around 100 responses were also received from stakeholder organisations.  TfL is currently analysing the responses and preparing a detailed report that will be published on TfL’s website.  I am keen to read the report, although I will not read all 40,000 responses.  This will inform my decision on whether to confirm the proposals, with or without modifications.  I am grateful to everyone who has got involved in the consultation, including at many stakeholder events.


Caroline Russell AM:  40,000 is a massive response and really shows how much Londoners care about air pollution.  Obviously, we cannot speculate on what they have said and I appreciate you cannot go into any detail on that. 


The Green Party Group has recently commissioned YouGov to carry out a survey asking about your inner London ULEZ, in particular this is up to the North and South Circulars, and when it should come in.  Ten per cent of the respondents agreed with your proposal for 2021 but 42% of them wanted it to start much earlier.  Will you consider these YouGov results alongside your latest ULEZ consultation response?


Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London):  There are deadlines in relation to consultations.  There are criticisms and challenges if you consider things outside the deadlines.  Therefore, I have to be careful in relation to agreeing to accept things that are outside the consultation period.  Let us wait and see the report that is presented as a consequence of the consultation.


I should say it is welcome if it is the case that Londoners are trying to put more pressure on us to improve things faster and go further.  That is fantastic.  However, it is worth giving ourselves a small pat on the back - not celebrating too early - about the progress we have made so far in just two years.  We are going faster than originally planned.  It does provide challenges because nowhere else in the world has the ULEZ that we want, the scale is going to be massive. 


A word of caution, we think we have gone as fast as we possibly can in relation to 2019 for central London, 2020 for all of London with the buses, coaches and lorries, and 2021 up to South and North Circular with everyone else.  The short answer is I am not sure that it is possible technically to go any faster.  I will wait and see what the response is.


Caroline Russell AM:  You are right to point out that London is moving faster, certainly than the Government is moving.  We had four Parliamentary Select Committees just last week condemning the Government for their ‘box ticking’ response to tackling this public health emergency.  The Select Committees recommended bringing forward the date by which manufacturers must end the sale of conventional petrol and diesel cars from the Government’s 2040 target.  I am wondering if you will talk with the car manufacturers - like Ford in Dagenham - to accelerate their switch from fossil fuel vehicle production so they are part of the clean-air solution and create secure long-term work for their thousands of employees in their factory.


Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London):  It is worth reminding ourselves that - fortunately or unfortunately - the cars that Londoners drive are not all Ford and the engines are not all made in Dagenham.


Caroline Russell AM:  No, however, a lot of Londoners work for Ford and Ford produces tonnes of diesel engines for all across Europe.  Can you use your influence to get them to think towards the future, to switch earlier to making non-diesel vehicles in their factory so you protect those jobs for Londoners?


Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London):  Chairman, I am not sure exactly what is made currently at Dagenham.  My understanding is they are making Euro VI engines, but I am happy to go away and look at that.  You will be aware Euro VI is ULEZ compliant.


Caroline Russell AM:  Of course. 


Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London):  To reassure you, I am always encouraging manufacturers, innovators and businesses to invest in the future, which means clean energy is really important. 


Caroline Russell AM:  The Government has a Clean Air Fund.  It is a really small pot of money in transport terms, it is £220 million.  London has no access to it.  Rather than asking for a slice of that very small pot of money, do you not think we should be looking at the tools we have available to us already and seeing how we could use those?  I am thinking here about traffic reduction through road pricing.  That could tackle congestion, reduce pollution and provide revenue to reinvest in walking, cycling, public transport and helping to switch to cleaner vehicles. 


In your Transport Strategy, in proposal 21, you say through TfL you will investigate road pricing.  I understand Mike Brown [MVO, Commissioner, TfL] is reporting back to you in 2020.  Can you get him to report back sooner?


Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London):  We have to be realistic about where the technology is.  I have not seen road pricing used on any scale anywhere in the world.  We are already spending a huge amount of time, effort, energy and monies in the technology around ULEZ in 2019, 2020 and 2021.  However, of course, TfL continues to look at and explore technology all around the world, drones are a good example.  We saw the horrific example last week of a fatal injury with autonomous vehicles.  We will explore all technology, including how we can use mini-consolidation centres in relation to deliveries at people’s place of work and home. 


Caroline Russell AM:  Thank you very much, I am totally out of time.


Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London):  Thank you.