London Plan (Supplementary) [4]

Session date: 
December 14, 2017
Question By: 
Shaun Bailey
GLA Conservatives
Asked Of: 
The Mayor


Shaun Bailey AM:  Let us see if we can change the trend.  In your draft London Plan, you give quite a clear indication that you would like to support councils that are using joint ventures (JVs) to deliver on housing because housing is a big issue in London.  Lots of councils of all different colours are using JVs to get things done.  Is this still the case?  Are you still willing to support councils that are looking to use JVs to deliver housing in London?


Supplementary To: 


Answer for London Plan (Supplementary) [4]

Answer for London Plan (Supplementary) [4]

Answered By: 
The Mayor

Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London):  Most councils have no other way of getting the revenues in to build the homes they need because of the huge cuts made by central Government and so, unless the Government were to allow them to lift the cap on borrowing or to allow them to borrow prudentially, it is very difficult for a council to regenerate housing in their boroughs.  A JV is one way of doing that.


Shaun Bailey AM:  Absolutely.  I could not agree more.  Could I ask you to support the JV in Haringey?  There are lots of people in Haringey now who are worried that the Council is under quite serious political pressure not to deliver on a JV that it has planned, which will deliver over 5,000 new homes and a brand-new town centre in a part of London that really needs these developments.  Could you give us an assurance now that you will support that Council in achieving that goal?


Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London):  It could come to me for planning consideration and is probably quasi-judicial, and so I have to be very careful what I say about schemes at this stage.  I will be watching the Haringey JV, like other JVs, but it is not wise for me to comment on these because it may come to me for planning.


Shaun Bailey AM:  Let me rephrase that.  Will you support the Council Leader, then, in her pursuit of this goal?  Let me put it that way because that is not quasi-judicial, is it?  You can say yes or no about supporting this person.  The reason I ask, Mayor, is because councils all across London will take a clear steer from this that in times of trouble, when they are trying to deliver your housing target, our London housing target, they can rely on you to be above the politics and deliver.  Will you support her?


Jennette Arnold OBE AM (Chair):  No, Assembly Member Bailey, we have had the answer. 


Shaun Bailey AM:  The Mayor does not even look particularly upset about what I am saying.


Jennette Arnold OBE AM (Chair):  No.  I am making a ruling. Your question relates to a borough Leader’s intention about a particular matter that will be referred to the Mayor.


Shaun Bailey AM:  No, that is not necessarily true ‑‑


Jennette Arnold OBE AM (Chair):  He is not in a position today to talk about support to that particular Leader.  Can you rephrase or come back with a different way of getting to the bottom of your question?


Shaun Bailey AM:  Hold on, Chair.  I think you have slightly wrongly interpreted ‑‑


Jennette Arnold OBE AM (Chair):  That is my ruling.


Shaun Bailey AM:  I accept your ruling, Chair.


Jennette Arnold OBE AM (Chair):  Thank you.


Shaun Bailey AM:  Thank you for your ruling.  I would just like to say that the Mayor did not look particularly upset and he now looks pleased that you have thought to rescue him.


Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London):  Chair, can I, if it helps, Chair ‑‑


Jennette Arnold OBE AM (Chair):  No.  That is enough.  Listen.  We just ‑‑


Shaun Bailey AM:  Chair, let me put you out of your misery.


Jennette Arnold OBE AM (Chair):  I am not in misery.


Shaun Bailey AM:  I certainly am.


Jennette Arnold OBE AM (Chair):  Chairs do not get in misery; they just make rulings.  Now, do you have another question?


Shaun Bailey AM:  Will you be supporting JVs across London?


Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London):  It is a sweeping question.  It is horses for courses, Chair.  What I will say - and it is really important in the context of Haringey and all across London - is: vote Labour!


Shaun Bailey AM:  Which Labour, Mayor?  


Jennette Arnold OBE AM (Chair):  Assembly Member Bailey ‑‑


Shaun Bailey AM:  Sorry, I am just conversing with my Mayor.  He does not seem particularly upset about talking to me, but, Chair, I am going to leave it there because I do not want you to bully me afterwards.  Thank you.


Jennette Arnold OBE AM (Chair):   Thank you.  As if I would.  We will now go on to a question from Assembly Member Hall on the Night Czar.  We are talking about the role here, rather than the individual, and I say this because it is my understanding that, according to our rules, the individual holding this position is not at head of unit level or above and it is not our practice to talk about individuals in public.  I will take a question on the post.