Should we not start being more intelligent with public money and investing it in real lifetime skills rather than paying for people not to work?
Boris Johnson (Mayor of London): I understand that and it is the same logic, by the way, that led us to set up the Day One support thing we did with Chris Grayling [Secretary of State for Justice], which was when you had a 16 to 24-year-old who was just coming on to JSA. Mandatory employment was a condition of their getting the JSA. It is a variant of that kind of idea. I think it is well worth exploring. We have not yet evaluated the Day One support programme.
Andrew Boff AM: I very much appreciate that. I appreciate your commitment, as I understand, to looking into this idea and, should it become favourable, could we jointly present it to the Department for Work and Pensions?
Yes. I am very keen to look at it in more detail. I think we need to think through the consequences of continuing to pay JSA for a long time when somebody is effectively in work; we need to work out how that would work.