Congestion Charge (Supplementary) [2]

Session date: 
February 26, 2014
Question By: 
Steve O'Connell
GLA Conservatives


Unsurprisingly I speak to support Roger’s comments in that I would support, very much, removal of the existing limits around outer London.  I am not sure - and remain to be persuaded - of the benefits to those areas in outer London, but in view of the fact that you are not able to remove that outer London surrounding barrier that you consider reviewing the boundaries because there are certain areas where it really does not make a great deal of sense.

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Answer for Congestion Charge (Supplementary) [2]

Answer for Congestion Charge (Supplementary) [2]



Steve O’Connell AM:  I have written to you particularly about a charitable riding centre, the Diamond Riding Centre, that is strangely like 300 yards within the boundary and 90% of their trade is the horse trade, which is coming in from Surrey.  Those people out there in Surrey are not adapting their vehicles.  I know the horse box comment argument has been well rehearsed but these are an example where they are there to support disabled young people through riding, through Riding for the Disabled centres all around London, and their ability to raise funds is severely limited.


That is just one example of the fact that when the original boundary was placed, I am not sure that there was a lot of thought around it.  I would certainly be supporting Roger that where we have a central congestion area that makes loads of sense, and we should be at least reviewing the existing boundary now.


Boris Johnson (Mayor of London):  On the horse box problem and the current operation of the Low Emission Zone, actually by 2020 most of the vehicles that are coming into London will be naturally compliant anyway as a result of the improvements in technology.  As we have said, if you have a vehicle that is currently non-compliant with the Low Emission Zone ‑‑ we went to huge efforts to show how you did not have to buy an entirely new machine, you could go for a second-hand vehicle of such and such a vintage and you would be all right.  I have been very struck how most people have got it.  Most people actually have not had that much difficulty in conforming to it.  Most Londoners would see that when a vehicle comes into London it circulates freely and if it going to cause an aggravation of pollution in the city, most people would want to see standards to protect us against it.


Steve O’Connell AM:  I am just seeking a balance, Mr Mayor, where we should be considering some examples of where people are affected.  The argument is lost on many of the horsey fraternity out in Surrey and Sussex who have no mind to adjust any of their vehicles because they are not coming into London other than perhaps to support a disabled charitable event.  I will leave it there but I would really continue with Roger to press you on this.


Boris Johnson (Mayor of London):  Yes.  If you are asking for a total abolition of the Low Emission Zone because there are some very hard cases, which obviously there will be in the periphery, that will be the wrong way forward.


Jenny Jones AM:  I am with you on this, Boris.


Boris Johnson (Mayor of London):  Thank you, Jenny.


Steve O’Connell AM:  For the record, Mr Mayor, what I am asking for is to consider exceptions.


Boris Johnson (Mayor of London):  You want the ULEZ to take over from the Low Emission Zone and I understand the logic of that and what I said to Roger is I will look at it.