Sally Hamwee (Chair): Just to explain to Roger (Evans, AM) that I thought that Jennette (Arnold, AM) might say, as I would say, that testing by people who need to use buses, including those with hearing impairments, would be a very good thing, to get users to experience and pass on their points.
Roger Evans (AM): Indeed, and if you had called me when you said you were going to, I might have said it as well but I do not need to now. I am very grateful to Jennette (Arnold, AM) for raising these issues because they were highlighted in the recent report on bus driving standards which the Transport Committee did and which received a huge number of public contributions to it, because clearly it was viewed as a very serious issue by a lot of older people and people who are unsteady on their feet, who have to use London buses.
One of the things we were told by TfL was that the BTEC training for bus drivers was progressing; they had trained 11,000 people at the time of the report and had a further 10,000 drivers to train. It had taken them three years to train 11,000 drivers so you will understand that the Committee was somewhat sceptical of their claim that they would train the remaining 10,000 in the six months leading up to Christmas. What has the progress been and how many are left to train now?