My key concern is about the mismatch ' I think everybody shares this ' between the improving safety standards we now have on the buses and the Underground and the appalling situation on the overground system. The Association of Train Operating Companies (ATOC) came to see me recently, and they are briefing against the Rail White Paper. In particular, they are briefing against the proposal that London should have more responsibility for franchising overground rail in London.
They seem completely unaware of the inadequate customer services on the issue of safety that many train operators and stations are operating in London. Do you think, given that your aspiration is to become the key franchiser of overground services in London, that it would be worthwhile issuing a benchmark standard of security on trains and in overground stations in London to try to do something to improve a pretty appalling situation? You only have to go to Brixton Station at 10.30 at night to know how bad it can be.