I think both Richard Barnes and I would agree that is very unfair to Toby Harris.
The Mayor: Whoever has got the money has got the power.
Graham Tope: I would like to think I had the money! Can I then try and pin you down a little more? We have in six boroughs already, a pathfinder project for devolved budgeting. In one of those boroughs, the Borough Commander has decided, with agreement locally, that he will reduce the number of police officers in that borough in order to increase civilian staff and provide, in his view, more effective policing in that borough. That is one borough; how would you feel if the other 31 Borough Commanders took a similar view with the obvious consequence of not such a great increase in numbers but a greater increase in effective policing?